Jay Vine discussion thread

[Sciatic]

Hopefully he’ll have another shot at another stage win so that he’ll at least one photo showing him crossing the finish line this Vuelta!

 

[42x16ss]

Alpecin came into the Vuelta with the goal of him and/or Merlier winning stages, fantastic to see him win in style.

 

[KZD]

Great win from Vine today, just wonder if one day he will try GC at a Grand Tour

 

[tobydawq]

Stage hunting was a smart decision, since he could save energy for days like today. If he ends up crashing out, he'll still have earned a lot from the race.

Sarcasm?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Sarcasm?

No, not at all. I actually like the guy.
I don't think going for GC would have been a good idea, although with what he produced today, perhaps a good GC placing would have been possible as well, though I'm not too sure about his consistency over three weeks.

He's had a lot of bad luck in his career, so my point was only that if that trend should unfortunately continue later in the race, he now at least has one great result, which he would not necessarily have been able to achieve, if he had chased the GC from the start of the race.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Ages like fine Vine.

 

[42x16ss]

No, not at all. I actually like the guy.
I don't think going for GC would have been a good idea, although with what he produced today, perhaps a good GC placing would have been possible as well, though I'm not too sure about his consistency over three weeks.

He's had a lot of bad luck in his career, so my point was only that if that trend should unfortunately continue later in the race, he now at least has one great result, which he would not necessarily have been able to achieve, if he had chased the GC from the start of the race.

Probably better for him to successfully chase stages and show he can climb at that level before going for GC. Kind of like Roglic at his first TDF

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1562876247948296197

View: https://twitter.com/NaichacaCycling/status/1562876247948296197?t=KrdZ2HLBr1XeyfOmipsmkQ&s=19

 

[Wvv]

Very deserved win after all those second places. And kinda cool we're talking about the World Champion Zwift here. Makes a bunch of them dream even more.

 

[SafeBet]

Is he really 69 kg? Some monster watts if that's the case.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Is he really 69 kg? Some monster watts if that's the case.

Looking at his Strava file it should be more in the 6.3-6.4 W/kg range. Still, monster ride by him and very impressive.

 

[Scarponi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1562876247948296197

View: https://twitter.com/NaichacaCycling/status/1562876247948296197?t=KrdZ2HLBr1XeyfOmipsmkQ&s=19

No wonder he was holding the gap most of that climb wow

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Looking at his Strava file it should be more in the 6.3-6.4 W/kg range. Still, monster ride by him and very impressive.

Naichaca, the watts dude, doesn't believe his Strava weight is accurate, hence the difference.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Naichaca, the watts dude, doesn't believe his Strava weight is accurate, hence the difference.

Naichaca, the watts dude, doesn't believe his Strava weight is accurate, hence the difference.

Yeah, but probably still closer to 69 than to 60kg, meaning that mine estimation is probably closer to the truth.
Overall the listed weight of cyclists is a can of worms and get why assuming a normalized weight of 60kg for gc riders is on average more accurate, but zhe guy has been wrong before and also unerestimates the w/kg of lightweight climbers.
How much drafting Mas got on certain gradients behind a rider such as Remco is another question.

 

[Cookster15]

Gosh, I’ve been too busy to absorb the significance of Jay’s win today. Some informed comments above which add weight to his ride’s significance.

Would be nice to see him take a shot at GC - although maybe not this Vuelta. Reminds me of Jan Hurt’s performance in the Giro?

 

[Lequack]

Bam, win number two!

 

[sir fly]

GC contender, definitely.

 

[Lequack]

GC contender, definitely.

I doubt Alpecin has a GC team that can support him, so he would need to go solo more or less. Like Pogacar in the Tour the first time.

 

[sir fly]

I doubt Alpecin has a GC team that can support him, so he would need to go solo more or less. Like Pogacar in the Tour the first time.

His climbing should take him far regardless of the team's strength.

 

[Lequack]

His climbing should take him far regardless of the team's strength.

Problem is like in TTTs where Alpecin already lost more than a minute.

 

[Barnacle Bill]

Great ride, looked really good on that climb. Congrats.

 

[Lequack]

His pedaling is so smooth as well.

 

[Riek s]

Looks fantastic on the bike while climbing. Pity he gave away time so easily in the beginning or he might be in the top3 atm. with the TTT being the difference.
not sure how his 3 week recuperation is or his TT (not sure if he has ridden that to limit timeloss) but he could be a future GT contestant if those things are up to par.
Very attractive rider who isn't afraid to fail, love it.

Not sure what his best course of action is, for GC he is to far back, but maybe he can go full effort in the ITT and see where he strands at that point. Wether a top10 is doable from his current position or alternatively he can go for more stage wins + mountain jersey when loosing some time to regain his freedom.

In any case they should stop underestimating him on the climbs and he will be hunted material for the GC teams.

 

[movingtarget]

Jay Vine is the new Cadel Evans thread?

If he shrunk by 10 cm's, developed a squeaky voice and gave death stares to the media........maybe

 

[Carols]

Another Impressive Ride. This guy is going places!