Jayco al-'Ula and its GreenEdge predecessors

[danjo007]

libertine, they can only sign who they can get. cadel is already contracted to BMC. and im sure if he wasnt contracted, he would have gone to GE.

 

[auscyclefan94]

libertine, they can only sign who they can get. cadel is already contracted to BMC. and im sure if he wasnt contracted, he would have gone to GE.

doubt it. I think he would of went to another team, maybe garmin or an italian team. GreenEdge were always going to look for sprints and classics. The fact that GreenEdge wanted 60-70% of the team to be Australian riders maens that he would have little support in the mountains. We only have two or 3 guys in Australia that you could call climbers. A lot of that is to do with our a lot of the races in Australia and the National Road Series. Having watched some of the highlights of NRS on Cycling Central, quite a few of stage races have a criterium every 2nd stage and the open road stages are generally relatively flat which explains why we have so many sprinters.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

libertine, they can only sign who they can get. cadel is already contracted to BMC. and im sure if he wasnt contracted, he would have gone to GE.

That is why he recently re-signed with BMC and said he wished to finish his career there ey

And this was well after the existance of Greenedge had been made aware to the public.

 

[just some guy]

libertine, they can only sign who they can get. cadel is already contracted to BMC. and im sure if he wasnt contracted, he would have gone to GE.

Nope - he has said BMC for life and it BMC fold probably be giving Vaughters a call as ACF said.

I have said before I do believe that Greenedge will change there rider type as the olde sprinter types retire or don´t score points.

As sprint hilly and classics days bring more points than Mountain days they are signing people for the points to stay in the World tour as I see it.

The major problem will be in season 2013-14 they will need to get 4-5 experienced guys to lead the GC and help develop the younger mountain riding GC types, so the turnover in these season will be big.

I really think Greenedge want SKY to develop Porte for them and will throw so much money at him to be their GC leader, while they develop some of the possible GC guys riding for the AIS and hope Axel develops the other form them at Livestrong.

 

[simo1733]

How will Greenedge affect the Aus Olympic team.Will the pursuit squad get time to prepare that they would not get if they were on any other team.
I note that Dave Brailsford has said that The Tour doesn't fit with the Olympic pursuit program.This suggests that GB will have no Wiggins or Thomas, leaving Aus as the overwhelming favorites if they weren't already.

 

[just some guy]

How will Greenedge affect the Aus Olympic team.Will the pursuit squad get time to prepare that they would not get if they were on any other team.
I note that Dave Brailsford has said that The Tour doesn't fit with the Olympic pursuit program.This suggests that GB will have no Wiggins or Thomas, leaving Aus as the overwhelming favorites if they weren't already.

Most track riders will ride early season and after or around the Giro be off to the track and then spend post Olympics getting ready for 2013 season as they are all so young and still developing as road bike riders so quite a hole in the team .

 

[LukeSchmid]

Most track riders will ride early season and after or around the Giro be off to the track and then spend post Olympics getting ready for 2013 season as they are all so young and still developing as road bike riders so quite a hole in the team .

Bobridge, Cameron Meyer and Howard. Who else will be going to the Olympics Track racing? Will Bobridge &/or Meyer do the TT at the Olympics as well?

 

[Midnightfright]

How will Greenedge affect the Aus Olympic team.Will the pursuit squad get time to prepare that they would not get if they were on any other team.
I note that Dave Brailsford has said that The Tour doesn't fit with the Olympic pursuit program.This suggests that GB will have no Wiggins or Thomas, leaving Aus as the overwhelming favorites if they weren't already.

Well Thomas has commented on how hes riding the pursuit this year so I think he will ride in the track but I think Wiggans has given up in it completely.

 

[simo1733]

Bobridge, Cameron Meyer and Howard. Who else will be going to the Olympics Track racing? Will Bobridge &/or Meyer do the TT at the Olympics as well?

You would think Porte for the TT which raises another issue regarding team issues.

 

[just some guy]

Bobridge, Cameron Meyer and Howard. Who else will be going to the Olympics Track racing? Will Bobridge &/or Meyer do the TT at the Olympics as well?

All things being equal no

Porte and Evans for the ITT.

 

[Andy99]

You would think Porte for the TT which raises another issue regarding team issues.

Bannan won't let Porte ride as long as he's riding for sky.

 

[just some guy]

bannan won't let porte ride as long as he's riding for sky.

bs ...............

 

[LukeSchmid]

All things being equal no

Porte and Evans for the ITT.

Are you saying that because you believe Porte and Evans are better TTer's than Bobridge and Meyer, or why? Bobridge did beat Porte at the worlds.

 

[just some guy]

Are you saying that because you believe Porte and Evans are better TTer's than Bobridge and Meyer, or why? Bobridge did beat Porte at the worlds.

Different prep - Track will take to much time and I do believe in a hillier/ more rise and falls course with less race days Porte is better at the moment.

 

[briztoon]

Do Luke Durbridge and Michael Hepburn fit in to the Olympic plans anywhere? actually will they sign for GE for next season or more likely after next years olympics?

Just how many races are there that GE will be expected to send teams to? and will they really be stretched that much. Are they likely to lose any of thier international players to other national teams Olympic programs.

 

[Andy99]

bs ...............

Yeah, I know. Sorry

I'll stand in the corner facing the wall for an hour.

 

[LukeSchmid]

Different prep - Track will take to much time and I do believe in a hillier/ more rise and falls course with less race days Porte is better at the moment.

Fair enough.

 

[theyoungest]

Yes, some great Australian talent has gone to GreenEdge. But quite a lot of it has not, including some of the key names.

Will Australians root for a Dutch guy on an Aussie team against Cadel Evans? It's something that Sky have had to wrestle with for a while with Cavendish being against them. The high quantity and turnover of Australian talent is also a benefit, as there will almost always be too much Australian talent for one team to hold, but it could still wind up hurting some guys' careers if they're mired in a team focused on something antithetical to their strengths.

I'm sure GreenEdge will find a way around these teething problems, just as I'm sure that teething problems will arise.

In what races will they have to root for a Dutch guy against Evans?

With Joost Posthuma, this team now really has some of the most uninspiring Dutch riders on board. All they need to do is sign Karsten Kroon, and they'll have them all.

 

[LukeSchmid]

Posthuma to Greenedge?
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/posthuma-to-join-greenedge

More of the same?????

 

[Nicosix]

So that leaves only one spot for next year + 2 neo pros

Who will it be? J.Dean?

 

[LukeSchmid]

So that leaves only one spot for next year + 2 neo pros

Who will it be? J.Dean?

If Beppu is really joining and Meier and Posthuma then yes. Dean is the obvious one. As far as neo pros go, Durbridge and Hepburn are obvious. Would Steele van Hoff count?

 

[LukeSchmid]

In what races will they have to root for a Dutch guy against Evans?

Weening At FW

 

[theyoungest]

Weening At FW

For FW they actually have two pretty decent riders: Albasini and Gerrans

 

[Nearly]

Posthuma to Greenedge?
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/posthuma-to-join-greenedge

More of the same?????

Orange Edge? Or pehaps just Grange (an Aussie drop of red which takes on the world's best and only gets better with age)?

The Dutch mafia are going to be awfully confused with all of this especially with Renshaw, Matthews et al at Rabo - the saving grace is that they can still ferment trouble with ACF & BMC.

 

[Nearly]

.......would Steele van Hoff count?

No with a name like that he can't be an Aussie ....... oh wait ..!