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Interesting. I wonder if your email came into French hands via the Dept. of Justice and or a joint investigation with them by French authorities.goober said:joe_papp said:~edited by mod~ insulting
Interesting. I wonder if your email came into French hands via the Dept. of Justice and or a joint investigation with them by French authorities.goober said:joe_papp said:~edited by mod~ insulting
thank you for bringing this up as an older cyclist +10 over jeanne. i raced with her a couple of times when she came to colorado. my friend living in france knows her husband and her quite well. this woman is a great hero to me. i gave up racing in my late forties. i wasn't competitive any more against elite senior riders. i never wanted to be first in the old lady category race.Spider1964 said:Some questions -
Jennie is at an age where menopause is typical (Av age 51).
If she is post Menopause? Hormone replacement therapy would be an option? Would she require a TUE?
Estradiol, testosterone and progesterone production is ceased or compromised at menopause, could these levels be manipulated by an expert blood doper?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menopause#Menopause
Cimacoppi49 said:goober said:Interesting. I wonder if your email came into French hands via the Dept. of Justice and or a joint investigation with them by French authorities.
Oldman said:Cimacoppi49 said:I asked that on p.14 and didn't get a response.
BotanyBay said:So Joe,
Please explain more about this "long waiting period". 19 months of "post-plea freedom" doesn't sound like we have a prosecutor that's itching to put you away for 10 years. It sounds like there is a gentelman's agreement to keep you interested in cooperating.
Is your case evidence under seal by the court? Did L'Equipe gain access to anything the domestic press does not?
joe_papp said:Guys, I don't know how L'Equipe got that material but obviously though they have obtained material that no US-based news outlets have. But they would've had to have gotten it from someone other than me, because there is no way I would risk "things" by unilaterally releasing evidence. That's why "The List" of 187 hasn't been published - because I'm not about to leak it while there are investigations ongoing.
Re. the 19mos - ironically enough they replaced the prosecutor recently. So 21 October is new sentencing date and I'd be appreciative of any support that folks here (or anywhere) would like to offer.
joe_papp said:My sentencing is currently scheduled for 21 October. It's been delayed for a total of ... 19 months ... for various reasons and suddenly I can imagine it being delayed again but I really just want to get it over, kind of.
I am scared to death, of course, and especially fear being incarcerated in a federal prison for 10 years and being sexually-brutalized or otherwise subjected to sanctioned violence or other depravities that characterize much of the US prison system according to my research.
Concerning the evidence/emails - and please take note of this - I DID NOT PROVIDE ANY NEW EVIDENCE TO L'EQUIPE NOR DID I CATALYZE THEIR INVESTIGATION OR OTHERWISE ENCOURAGE IT. I only learned of it when it was basically complete and simply confirmed for them details of my own criminal case that they put to me, which involved Ciprelli. I did not even provide them with the emails, which they already had before they contacted me.
joe_papp said:Guys, I don't know how L'Equipe got that material but obviously though they have obtained material that no US-based news outlets have. But they would've had to have gotten it from someone other than me, because there is no way I would risk "things" by unilaterally releasing evidence. That's why "The List" of 187 hasn't been published - because I'm not about to leak it while there are investigations ongoing.
Re. the 19mos - ironically enough they replaced the prosecutor recently. So 21 October is new sentencing date and I'd be appreciative of any support that folks here (or anywhere) would like to offer.
Polish... You're a ****ING IDIOT!!!Polish said:Is it ILLEGAL to read another person's emails?
Might be a Federal Offense?
Anyway, I would guess the leaked e-mails came from an "unnamed source close to the investigation".
Maybe the Longo's should file a motion.
Stopped quite a few leaks here in the States.
DomesticDomestique said:Polish... You're a ****ING IDIOT!!!
OK, I'll take my ban now, just had to say it!
joe_papp said:Guys, I don't know how L'Equipe got that material but obviously though they have obtained material that no US-based news outlets have. But they would've had to have gotten it from someone other than me, because there is no way I would risk "things" by unilaterally releasing evidence. That's why "The List" of 187 hasn't been published - because I'm not about to leak it while there are investigations ongoing.
Re. the 19mos - ironically enough they replaced the prosecutor recently. So 21 October is new sentencing date and I'd be appreciative of any support that folks here (or anywhere) would like to offer.
MarkvW said:FWIW I hope you just get a good taste of the slammer, nothing more. What you did was seriously bad, but I doubt you're much of a risk for future felonies. If you've got a steady job, that'll be a big help.
MarkvW said:FWIW I hope you just get a good taste of the slammer, nothing more. What you did was seriously bad, but I doubt you're much of a risk for future felonies. If you've got a steady job, that'll be a big help.
python said:grenoble’s prosecutor office opened a criminal investigation into ciprelli epo purchase affaire.
french link
http://www.lemonde.fr/sport/article...nquete-preliminaire-ouverte_1573560_3242.html
i’m following the facts of this case with great interest since if they’re confirmed (ciprell‘s categorical denials look comical and so ricco-esque) it will be potentially one of the longest frauds in sporting history.
Benotti69 said:If proved, and i dont doubt that she doped, doesn't this episode point to a barren period of Longo's career, 2007 she won nothing major if she even won anything. 2008 french champion TT and Road.
Or am i missing the sarcasm in your post![]()
python said:there was some...
but if seriously, i'm a tad conflicted about ciprelli-longo...split btwn her remarkable achievements (which couldn't have come only from elicit substances) and the latest doping episode.
you're right, 2007 was 'dry' for longo - 'only' 7th in the worlds. that year ciprelli also became the coach for her fierce competitor, (also not a spring chicken) - pitel.
so, yeah, there are complications - that's why a criminal investigation should sort some things out. the linked article implied an investigation beyond the 3 years dictated by the sol.
Benotti69 said:i am hoping due to the age of Ciprelli he is not looking forward to prison and does a Joe Papp and tells all, a good thing by the way!