Jonas Vingegaard: Something is Rotten

[Samu Cuenca]

But did he race against Pogacar, Roglic, Remco and all the other top guns from February to October as One Cycling plan?

It wasn't his fault that he didn't do it more often (although with Roglič he was at least indirectly a factor in them having different schedules). In other seasons either one or both of Pogačar and Remco would have done Itzulia and/or Dauphiné.

 

[Froome]

But did he race against Pogacar, Roglic, Remco and all the other top guns from February to October as One Cycling plan?

Well, Pogacar, roglic and remco also didn't race all top guns from february to october.

 

[Rob5091]

Well, Pogacar, roglic and remco also didn't race all top guns from february to october.

No of course not, but the point I was making was that according to what has been in the press, the One Cycling circus wants the same guys racing each other from February to October, which means no more just being at 100% for the Tour.

 

[Froome]

No of course not, but the point I was making was that according to what has been in the press, the One Cycling circus wants the same guys racing each other from February to October, which means no more just being at 100% for the Tour.

I support that idea.

Well, the other opponents probably also will not be at 100%, but he can be competitive at 90/95% like we saw in the vuelta 2023.

 

[Rob5091]

George Bennett adds another piece to the what-the-heck-happened-to-Vingegaard puzzle about "mental fortitude" -
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...-the-four-hardest-working-riders-in-the-world

I know some of these GC guys really well and I've had to sit at the table with them and make sure they finish their breakfast because they're so nervous before a race, then they go and become Tour de France champions. You can’t tell me they’re mentally unbreakable, they’re not."

 

[noob]

George Bennett adds another piece to the what-the-heck-happened-to-Vingegaard puzzle about "mental fortitude" -
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...-the-four-hardest-working-riders-in-the-world

This makes me think doping is for athletes what autotune is for singers. Without real talent it can't save you anyway.

 

[ice&fire]

This makes me think doping is for athletes what autotune is for singers. Without real talent it can't save you anyway.

I'm waiting to see the news of a singer entering hospital Riccò style for badly administered autotuning.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I'm waiting to see the news of a singer entering hospital Riccò style for badly administered autotuning.

I believe Cher almost ODed in 1998.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Riding paniagua today.

 

[Lequack]

*Dusts off this thread.*

 

[Netserk]

Riding paniagua today.

In a weather like today on the other hand...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdP2lLODk-A

 

[AmRacer]

Poor Roglic it seems he’ll never win a tour now after the crushing disappointment of 2020.

We'll see.

 

[Tim Cahill]

There was a headwind on that climb and it wasn't even a hard gradient, putting 40-50s into most of the serious guys, must've been some nuclear watts going on.

 

[Rob5091]

Before we get all carried away, I think it's best to wait until Sunday to see how the altitude training has been over the Winter. Visma will want Vingegaard at 100% in July and it's still only February.
Even so, with the prospect of facing Pogacar and Roglic at the Tour, we could be in for more w/kg then usual at this time of year.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Before we get all carried away, I think it's best to wait until Sunday to see how the altitude training has been over the Winter. Visma will want Vingegaard at 100% in July and it's still only February.
Even so, with the prospect of facing Pogacar and Roglic at the Tour, we could be in for more w/kg then usual at this time of year.

The guy beats the peleton on shallow climbs and in various terrain. Either he's become a classic specialist or we will see a watt bomb tomorrow. What do you think is more likely?

 

[Rob5091]

I expect Vingegaard to win but apart from the guys who raced Columbia, there's not a lot of competition. To be honest it looks like most just want to get in the kms and get home and out of the rain.
I don't expect crazy w/kg - it's only February but Visma will want to play some mind games with UAE & Bora.

 

[Savant12]

It's going to be a crazy one this summer. Hope, everyone has saved their Oppenheimer memes.

 

[Rob5091]

It's going to be a crazy one this summer. Hope, everyone has saved their Oppenheimer memes.

Yep, watching the Tour wil be a lot like ...get your googles ready!

 

[Lequack]

He may have won three stages, but he didn't win 4!

 

[Lequack]

Some humor. Or is it?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q-T9fSOoC8

 

[Ripper]

I guess dorkus maximus helmets don't help that much?

 

[pastronef]

I guess dorkus maximus helmets don't help that much?

they'll get used to those by July, don't worry

 

[Ripper]

Just a walk in the park ...

 

[Lequack]

He actually went and said it.

‘I'm the first human in this race’ - runner-up Juan Ayuso on Vingegaard’s domination​

‘I'm the first human in this race’ - runner-up Juan Ayuso on Vingegaard’s domination

Second on GC at Tirreno-Adriatico, 21-year-old thinks he's on the right track

www.cyclingnews.com

 

[the delgados]

He actually went and said it.

‘I'm the first human in this race’ - runner-up Juan Ayuso on Vingegaard’s domination​

‘I'm the first human in this race’ - runner-up Juan Ayuso on Vingegaard’s domination

Second on GC at Tirreno-Adriatico, 21-year-old thinks he's on the right track

www.cyclingnews.com

One gets the sense that the lid is about to be blown off when fellow riders start chirping.
This has happened many times before in professional cycling, and it's not surprising it might be happening again. That's when commentators and journalists have no choice but to take notice.