Jonas Vingegaard: Something is Rotten

[FroomeWagon]

I really don't have anything to add, as it has pretty much all been said ... but I wanted to get into the thread on such a monumental day for posterity's sake.

 

[Cookster15]

Damned Vingegaard. I am so incensed at today's freak show I've missed my ride this morning. Have to get ready to catch the train to work in 10 minutes

 

[Almeisan]

Dutch tv now has Stef Clement explain that Vinegaard eats less fibre, which means he has 500g less *** in his gut, which makes him lighter, and also helps keep his tummy flat, which makes him more aero.

WUT you can't make this *** up. Good thing that Dumoulin is on the Belgian tv.

[edit]
Wait, I can't even explain it because it gets censored. We are talking about poo, dung, feces, excrement.

 

[burning]

Ahh thank you John Larsen, thank you for reminding me that cycling is now clean.
"Il'l say to the people who don't believe, the cynics and the sceptics: I'm sorry for you. I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles."

Tbh, this guy seems less obnoxious compared to American and British folks back in the day, maybe there are not that many Danish people out there defending Vingegaard at all costs

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Dutch tv now has Stef Clement explain that Vinegaard eats less fibre, which means he has 500g less *** in his gut, which makes him lighter, and also helps keep his tummy flat, which makes him more aero.

WUT

OK, so we know he isn‘t full of ***. Case dismissed!

 

[zlev11]

Dutch tv now has Stef Clement explain that Vinegaard eats less fibre, which means he has 500g less *** in his gut, which makes him lighter, and also helps keep his tummy flat, which makes him more aero.

WUT you can't make this *** up. Good thing that Dumoulin is on the Belgian tv.

he's full of sh*t

 

[Riek s]

I love how some people make it all about aerodynamics and aggressive descending, when Vingegaard did one of the craziest climbing performances ever.

Focus on the parts you can explain, not on the stuff that can't (reminder, he did that climbing performance on a 2kg (-100gram saved on paint) heavier bike.

 

[bigcog]

Never thought I'd see anything like this again .. what is he on ? Are there any new substances doing the rounds ?

 

[noob]

Also, it seems like people are actually believing Jonas cut fish for a living out of necessity. It wasn't though, here from his former DS;

"- It was about us giving Jonas some structure in his everyday life. If he had nothing else to do, it could well be 12-13 before he came out to train. By getting him a job, we were able to put the training and time into a different perspective, and that was important for Jonas's maturation as a person, says Christian Andersen."

It was just to get him off the couch ;-). Valgren had the same job before Vingo.

Thanks for giving me more evidence that this guy is neurodiverse!

But that in itself also means he will be better than others if cycling is the only thing he does. That's the upside to neurodiversity! The thing we really like we'll simply become masters at. That's the biology/neurology of the neurodiverse brain.

(With that said of course he's nowhere near clean), but he doesn't come from nowhere and neurodiversity probably factors in. (Remco is possibly another example)

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Never thought I'd see anything like this again .. what is he on ? Are there any new substances doing the rounds ?

Skeletor is probably in bed with the sith (of the disney age), that's the best explanation I can come up with.

A new hope... is needed.

 

[ppanther92]

Don't worry people, he went too far today, and next year someone else will get full clearence to the juice by doping authorities, not him. I bet in one of the spanish or british youngsters too crush Vingo in 2024. Most important now is: don't crush the business that reached new highs.

Idk, doping fueled dominance tends to be sticky. Indurain - 5 years, Armstrong - 7 years, Sky - 7 years.

 

[noob]

Sick of these Danes already tbh, we've no Duke of Sussex anymore and the Duke of York is a nonce, we are completely vulnerable on our eastern coastline and they will start getting ideas if this carries on.

Onley and Poole need to get on that gene doping/cherry juice sh*t and putting out some big numbers otherwise we are about to see Longships looming over on the horizon.

Without Brexit it would have been a bit safer

 

[perico]

Bugno was also good and looked really smooth on the TT bike.
The closest to a TT specialist who was built like a climber was probably Berzin with his really low TT position and flat back.

Speaking of… Alcalá provided no comment to his post

 

[DrSahl]

Long time no see Clinic.
I wasn't following as closely the Tour in the last handful of years and honestly I've grown a little numb over the tragedy of doping in general.
This year I didn't get to watch stages but I was interested, Vingo and Pog being so close at least made for an exciting story.

I suppose I don't have much to add or say than the same incredulity as everyone. Pog's lead is already... spectacular but Vingo burying him by the same gap is... what ?
I'm not gonna get mad and throw speculation about what exactly is happening here without evidence (that we have a good chance of never really getting) but I wanted to write about it and leave a trace, no matter how trite.

Everybody wants to see Superman beat Batman or vice versa.
That is why this is all allowed.. if it was to chaotic and even, then people would lose interest.. Nothing fun in seeing shifting riders drop each day.

That being said, I am sure the French are mad about them not having a Batman.

 

[Pistolas]

Idk, doping fueled dominance tends to be sticky. Indurain - 5 years, Armstrong - 7 years, Sky - 7 years.

That was what I thought was going to happen with Pogacar, but after 2021 Tour mythical stage (where he went too far) they changed their mind and gave JV some benefits.

 

[argyllflyer]

Entertaining for sure but dirty as a hen party on a pub crawl.

 

[Martinstranger]

Sick of these Danes already tbh, we've no Duke of Sussex anymore and the Duke of York is a nonce, we are completely vulnerable on our eastern coastline and they will start getting ideas if this carries on.

Onley and Poole need to get on that gene doping/cherry juice sh*t and putting out some big numbers otherwise we are about to see Longships looming over on the horizon.

3 Danes in top 9 and with Asgrren as number 4 around number 15. Such a little country with those big engines. They are already in their boats and will surely arrive faster than in the Viking times.

Also, it seems like people are actually believing Jonas cut fish for a living out of necessity. It wasn't though, here from his former DS;

"- It was about us giving Jonas some structure in his everyday life. If he had nothing else to do, it could well be 12-13 before he came out to train. By getting him a job, we were able to put the training and time into a different perspective, and that was important for Jonas's maturation as a person, says Christian Andersen."

It was just to get him off the couch ;-). Valgren had the same job before Vingo.

It's motivation. Remember to go out training or you can be at the fish factory for the rest of your life

 

[Didinho]

Dutch tv now has Stef Clement explain that Vinegaard eats less fibre, which means he has 500g less *** in his gut, which makes him lighter, and also helps keep his tummy flat, which makes him more aero.

WUT you can't make this *** up. Good thing that Dumoulin is on the Belgian tv.

[edit]
Wait, I can't even explain it because it gets censored. We are talking about poo, dung, feces, excrement.

Dumoulin said it was the best TT he’s ever seen. But then he came up with the downhill technique and lighter bike. When Pogi won he couldn’t believe that it was possible, but now with his Jumbo mates doing something even a level above it’s normal.

 

[ThisFrenchGuy]

Everybody wants to see Superman beat Batman or vice versa.
That is why this is all allowed.. if it was to chaotic and even, then people would lose interest.. Nothing fun in seeing shifting riders drop each day.

That being said, I am sure the French are mad about them not having a Batman.

I've seen talk that French riders do perform pretty well on UCI points overall (though possibly slowly declining) but it's been a long struggle to get a multi-stage contender -as everyone know-.

I'm sure the French public would be hypocritical enough if that happens in the same sort of fashion but I have the weakness to believe it would raise a few eyebrows to get a new Jalabert.

 

[noob]

Ahh thank you John Larsen, thank you for reminding me that cycling is now clean.
"Il'l say to the people who don't believe, the cynics and the sceptics: I'm sorry for you. I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles."

Two things can be simultaneously true. I believe he was and is a talent. And that he's doped to his teeth.

 

[Nick2413]

Are the pundits defending dopers actually delusional enough to believe they’re clean or are they being paid off? A performance like this is so obviously glowing it’s embarrassing to admit you’re that naive.

 

[AngelOTM]

I guess the crocodile swam so i'm also going to ride the tiger from this day on.

Don't wonder anymore why 2022 3rd week TT was Vingo's to give. They (jumbo) knew he would smoke Wouts and Gannas and Pogis of this world any day he tried.

I do remember his big pull in 2020 Angliru and 2021 Chris Harper moment, but leap to this is some Space Jam alien stuff.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Now the main reason is Vinge had better prep by riding every single corner to know how to fly through them.

 

[Cookster15]

Are the pundits defending dopers actually delusional enough to believe they’re clean or are they being paid off? A performance like this is so obviously glowing it’s embarrassing to admit you’re that naive.

Come on it’s taking risks, faster cornering Just don’t worry about 7 watts per kilo?

I really wonder what the media in Denmark is saying. Are any game enough to question their heroes performance?

 

[wansteadimp]

Surely , this is set up for Pog to have his Landis moment now? The only question is does he go on Saisies or wait for the Roselend?