Jonas Vingegaard: Something is Rotten

[daking123]

Further proof he's had by far the most doped performances since 2021, I imagine if Visma had tried to keep up his Tour-program up continuously the past years, he'd be dead by now.

Or he had one of the hardest ride schedules in the peloton and actually acted like a normal human being. I’m not saying he isn’t doped, but it’s refreshing to see someone not peak all year round.

 

[Unchained]

Or he had one of the hardest ride schedules in the peloton and actually acted like a normal human being. I’m not saying he isn’t doped, but it’s refreshing to see someone not peak all year round.

He rode a disgrace of a race. Had he made the trip to Rwanda, been doing lots of post Vuelta leftovers.. Okay. Instead he has been sofa surfing since Vuelta..he embarrassed himself by doing pre race media and then doesn't show up.
Bjarne Riis is spot on..

 

[scribers]

Or he had one of the hardest ride schedules in the peloton and actually acted like a normal human being. I’m not saying he isn’t doped, but it’s refreshing to see someone not peak all year round.

It’s refreshing to see someone only doped up in July? Haha

I miss the Armstrong era too

 

[daking123]

It’s refreshing to see someone only doped up in July? Haha

I miss the Armstrong era too

Yeah that’s where we are at these days all because of Pogacar.

 

[TheKidsCallMeBoss]

Or he had one of the hardest ride schedules in the peloton and actually acted like a normal human being. I’m not saying he isn’t doped, but it’s refreshing to see someone not peak all year round.

What exactly are you talking about? His worst result in the last three and a half years in GT or stage races is a third place in Paris-Nice. Otherwise, he either crushed everyone or finished second behind Pog or his teammate (match fixing).

It really makes you wonder why he's so donkey in one-day races. He was actually half-decent before he won the TdF.

 

[Pantani Attacks]

Vic Vinegar is back on the Hugh Honey

 

[Krzysztof_O]

It's Teddy's porridge (served with fish of course).

 

[Samu Cuenca]

It's Teddy's porridge (served with fish of course).

Why would Pog share his recipe for success with him? To get fashion advice?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Why would Pog share his recipe for success with him? To get fashion advice?

Probably. The Eminem style is looking very poor compared to the bib tights style.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Probably. The Eminem style is looking very poor compared to the bib tights style.

He could let his tuffs grow and then use them to keep a second pair of bibs in place. It's going to be the next big arms race.

 

[ppanther92]

Lets see what Pogi got in the important races but Vingo is *** flying in Paris-Nice

 

[Squire]

Lets see what Pogi got in the important races but Vingo is *** flying in Paris-Nice

If he didn't crush these guys, there'd be serious cause for concern.

 

[Netserk]

If he didn't crush these guys, there'd be serious cause for concern.

yes and vauquelin and lenny are the best yardsticks left , but the day before should have affected them more than vingegaard , so its hard to say how good this was

but he still looked better yesterday than id have expected before the race and what i think hed have been able to in this race last year

 

[ppanther92]

If he didn't crush these guys, there'd be serious cause for concern.

Largest gap at Paris Nice since 1939.

E: and for something more relevant - bigger winning margin than Pogacar ever managed in an non-GT (no matter the opponents).

 

[Rob5091]

Largest gap at Paris Nice since 1939.

If only Ayuso had not crashed ....

 

[Krzysztof_O]

If only Ayuso had not crashed ....

... VingoMan would put an hour into Juanito.

 

[Rob5091]

... VingoMan would put an hour into Juanito.

An hour?! Wow, Trek ought to ask for their money back!

 

[Samu Cuenca]

An hour?! Wow, Trek ought to ask for their money back!

If money was an issue they wouldn't have signed him in the first place.

 

[nayr497]

- Peaking for 9-12 months.
- Leading GTs from near-start to finish
- Leading more than one GT in this fashion
- Winning GTs and winning 1-day races
- Not just winning, but dominating in very different areas - climbing, sprinting, TTing.

Over 100+ years of professional road cycling and we really haven't seen many, or any, riders pull this off. I think it seems hard-to-believe that a few riders have suddenly put it all together and can ride like this, around the calendar, across the races.

I'm a casual pro cycling fan at this point, but followed closely in the aughts. I just don't believe what I'm seeing. Sponsors, politics, UCI aside, I'm just not buying that so many racers before just didn't put it together, but suddenly a few riders have put it all together.

And I'd draw a parallel with tennis. I'm not a super fan, but I have a relatively decent historical understanding. Players could be very good for 6-8-10 years. And recently in mens tennis we had 3 guys at the top for 20 years and up to their 40s. It's just not believable. I don't buy that they simply had some new training ideas, NONE of which dawned on earlier competitors.