- Mar 19, 2009
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Not just that, stage 1 is no joke, whoever is weak at the beginning will feel it from the start. And if Vingegaard shows up you can be sure this stage will be drilled very hard.
Not just that, stage 1 is no joke, whoever is weak at the beginning will feel it from the start. And if Vingegaard shows up you can be sure this stage will be drilled very hard.
- Jul 7, 2013
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No worries, we are running out of adjectives and adverbs to describe Skeletor anyway!
- Sep 26, 2020
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- Sep 26, 2020
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- Mar 20, 2022
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Their season have been a disaster. They need Vingegaard to win the Tour to save the season
From a PR view, having Vingo going to the Tour not 100% and just for utilitarian reaosons - saving JBV season - does not seem a good idea. Winning stages and not being 1st means denting and damaging the aura of machine-like invencibility that they have so hardly constructed in the last two years.
- Jul 4, 2016
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Vingo is probably my least favourite rider but I want him to rock up to the tour and crush action man Pog and hear about the nutrition and the cuddles that healed him.
- Apr 13, 2021
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They're obviously pushing him to be at close to his best as possible for July if they're sending him to altitude now. They can talk all they want about prioritizing the long term and day by day, but the plan is clear to push full gas to get the best possible shape for Le tour, even if he won't be at his 2022/2023 level.
You don't send a rider targeting la Vuelta to altitude on 28th may after 21 days of rebuild training, following a month in hospital
You don't send a rider targeting la Vuelta to altitude on 28th may after 21 days of rebuild training, following a month in hospital
Vingo is probably my least favourite rider but I think that Pogacar or even Roglic winning the Tour would create a more interesting delayed effect towards the 2025 Tour.
If Remco wins the Tour, it would be epic.
- Mar 19, 2009
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Yet they do.
I hope Vingegaard comes out of this in good health, if going to altitude now is the right step for that, I have no idea.
It's possible, but unlikely. Pogacar and Roglic would have to exit or be hampered due to a crash/mechanical/sickness.
- Sep 26, 2020
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The team need a leader for the tour, and Vingegaard is the only Bygma Visma rider who has a real chance of reaching the podium or better, so of course they don't want to rule him out until the last minute, in case he returns to an acceptable level.
- Jul 7, 2013
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They haven't given up hope for the Tour yet. Otherwise a normal non-altitude training would be enough if Vuelta was the main goal. That being said, I don't think they want Vingo to lose his aura so they will send him to the Tour only if they think he has a shot at victory (even if his form is lower than in the previous years), maybe some tests in late June will decide it.
- Aug 13, 2011
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Lungs take a long time to heal, same with the ribs which could make it difficult to breathe. Now add in he’s finally returning to normal training and the altitude equals trouble breathing. They could be suffering/sacrificing for the greater good of winning the Tour. I don’t believe someone is in the ICU for almost 2 weeks taking up a much needed bed when they don’t need it.
I mean even if Visma decides and goes ahead with Jonas, participating at the Tour 2024, chances for overall are in my opinion still slim. So not the very best option in regards to GC. If they instead decide to target stage wins, here the problem is breakaway stage wins are really not a thing any more. Their best bet would hence be somebody like Kooij and to bring a sprint train. Still chances here are not all that optimistic either, as sprinters at Tour are on very high level. So maybe stage hunting with van Aert, on where still a question mark if he is currently really up for it, due to the injuries.
He should be fine. Nobody can match his w/kg or so I have been told. No problem. It is in the bag for him already. Just gotta show up.
- Jan 29, 2021
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Your point makes absolutely sense, but it's difficult for me to believe they will "sacrifice" him.
Vingegaard is they're main rider for next years, it would be really bad sacrifice him now, when he is still young and can win more in the future.
- Jan 29, 2021
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@CyclistAbi don’t take things for granted, you should prepare for what's coming in July. A Vingo stomp to Roglic from far will happen.
- Aug 13, 2011
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It could be a lot of factors going into the decision;
He could have been not that injured,
He could have recovered faster than expected,
He could be recovering slower than expected,
The team could think he can come in with average form so to speak and ride into top shape at the end and win,
Team could not think highly of the competition bar Pogacar and think he has a chance no matter his shape since Pog has the Giro in his legs,
Team/management could be worried this season would be deemed a failure after coming off the best season a team has had,
It could be PR so the others don’t focus on Kuss and Matteo if Vinge starts,
It could be the other forum related,
or it could be they will try the Tour and if push comes to shove change focus to the Vuelta.
There can even be more than this.
I think it’s a combination between of multiple factors. If he does win I also think they’ll push this hard like Armstrong and LeMond coming back from their setbacks.
- Aug 13, 2011
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You’re talking about the 2017 femur right? He didn’t amount to anything back then and had 5 seasons to recover to make his GC bid at 2021 Tour. These injuries happened during his reign and season. There’s no way the team isn’t going to push any positive results for the Tour. All last year Visma was spouting stuff for how they’re so much better, why wouldn’t they hype up Vignegaard returning and winning the Tour after he’d been written off by the majority.
- Aug 13, 2011
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