Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[shadowrider]

I really think he will travel back to Denmark. Considering the circumstances.

 

[Froome]

And most of all in heads of his fans. As a big Skeletor supporter, I can't deny it!

I thought this forum only have me and two or three more danish users, as a fans of Vingegaard!

 

[Oldermanish]

The problem is that Vingegaard, with a collapsed lung, will not be allowed to fly the next days. Surgery can shorten this.

Or he has to return to Denmark by car after leaving the hospital.

His lung is no longer collapsed or he wouldn't have had any surgery. Breathing, heart , and control bleeding; then fix a bone.

 

[Peyroteo94]

11 weeks to get in shape. C'mon Jonas, your biggest opponent is behind you, time to show how great you are. Cycling needs duels and Pogacar/Vingegaard is one for the ages. We all want a 4th duel in the Tour!

 

[Froome]

His lung is no longer collapsed or he wouldn't have had any surgery. Breathing, heart , and control bleeding; then fix a bone.

We'll still see him sooner than expected in his bike turbo trainer at home.

Or maybe not, because he doesn't care about social media.

 

[Lequack]

Horner's take

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nex48QmBqU

 

[Froome]

Horner's take

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nex48QmBqU

I believe he will be there.

 

[Oldermanish]

I believe he will be there.

If he's able he should ride as much of it that will help his form. JV needs all of the help they can get.

 

[Froome]

If he's able he should ride as much of it that will help his form. JV needs all of the help they can get.

The news today about his update gave me some good hope that he will be in the Tour, and even if he enters in the Tour at 90/95% of his best shape like in the Vuelta 2023, i still "like" the chances of him winning the race, because he can improve day by day and being in peak shape by the third week.

Let's not forget the Tour 2024 is "backloaded" in the last 9 days.

 

[pastronef]

Visma pulled Jorgenson from the Roubaix line-up and he's down to ride just Amstel. Visma will have to get Kuss and Jorgenson in top shape in July, because they can't now if/how Jonas will ride the TDF

 

[Rackham]

The news today about his update gave me some good hope that he will be in the Tour, and even if he enters in the Tour at 90/95% of his best shape like in the Vuelta 2023, i still "like" the chances of him winning the race, because he can improve day by day and being in peak shape by the third week.

Let's not forget the Tour 2024 is "backloaded" in the last 9 days.

In other news today Visma announced Kelderman is out of the Giro because he hasn't recovered from his collarbone fracture in Paris-Nice.

So I wouldn't hold anyone to any timetable, or assume a best case scenario for Vingegaard's TdF defense prospects. I think it's wait & see. Just like for Evenepoel & even Rog (based on the fact he hurt his knee).

 

[Peyroteo94]

In other news today Visma announced Kelderman is out of the Giro because he hasn't recovered from his collarbone fracture in Paris-Nice.

So I wouldn't hold anyone to any timetable, or assume a best case scenario for Vingegaard's TdF defense prospects. I think it's wait & see. Just like for Evenepoel & even Rog (based on the fact he hurt his knee).

Another rider out of the Giro that could "challenge" Pogacar (at least, put him out of zone 2). Can't even know who would win the Giro if Pogacar crashed out.
If Vingegaard misses Dauphiné, he will be out for the Tour.

 

[Froome]

Another rider out of the Giro that could "challenge" Pogacar (at least, put him out of zone 2). Can't even know who would win the Giro if Pogacar crashed out.
If Vingegaard misses Dauphiné, he will be out for the Tour.

How do you know that?

 

[Froome]

In other news today Visma announced Kelderman is out of the Giro because he hasn't recovered from his collarbone fracture in Paris-Nice.

So I wouldn't hold anyone to any timetable, or assume a best case scenario for Vingegaard's TdF defense prospects. I think it's wait & see. Just like for Evenepoel & even Rog (based on the fact he hurt his knee).

I guess Remco and Roglic will be fine for the Tour. Roglic will probably race Liege very soon.

Kelderman already broke 4 times the collarbone, that's a problem for him.

 

[AmRacer]

How do you know that?

Jonas can do as you did, attack in the third week.

 

[AmRacer]

I guess Remco and Roglic will be fine for the Tour. Roglic will probably race Liege very soon.

Not ideal prep for Remco though.

 

[Salvarani]

He should be fine. No problem, right? Should win anyway.

 

[Froome]

Not ideal prep for Remco though.

I don't think Remco will be out a lot of time like Kelderman. Kelderman already broke 4 times the collarbone, that's why probably he is taking a lot of time to recover.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

So Vingegaard had a pneumothorax right?

I think the time for recovery for this can vary drastically. It took Davie Selke, a forward for the club I support back then, more than a year to come back to the level of fitness that was necessary for his game.

Of course I hope this will not be a similar story for Vingegaard but a pneumothorax is a nasty injury I think and I guess even if he recovers well and fast from it, he will have been a long time without training by then.

 

[Elos Anjos]

How do you know that?

It's the million dollar question for this forum...

 

[Salvarani]

Not ideal prep for Remco though.

Merckx wouldnt complain about that. Shouldnt be a problem, right?

 

[FanBoi]

Another rider out of the Giro that could "challenge" Pogacar (at least, put him out of zone 2). Can't even know who would win the Giro if Pogacar crashed out.
If Vingegaard misses Dauphiné, he will be out for the Tour.

I think he will skip Dauphiné and go on altitude instead, which is much more important for the tour han race km's.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

How do you know that?

Not necessarily. I'll repeat what I already said in another thread. Top guys don't need prep races that much to be in a very high form. If Dauphine collides with high-quality pre-Tour training (that can compensate for the preparation shortcomings) they will surely choose the latter.

 

[shadowrider]

Not necessarily. I'll repeat what I already said in another thread. Top guys don't need prep races that much to be in a very high form. If Dauphine collides with high-quality pre-Tour training (that can compensate for the preparation shortcomings) they will surely choose the latter.

But his team has announced Vingegaard will participate at the Tour ONLY at 100 %. So, start at 98 % and "grow" or become stronger during the Tour (as Van Aert did a few years ago after surgery for appendicitis, winning 3 stages the last 10 days) will not happen.

 

[pastronef]

there's a piece on Corriere, Italian newspaper by MArco Bonarrigo www.twitter.com/cyclingpro about Jonas' father not being able to speak with his son yet and being worried his condition is worse than what Visma says