Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[SHAD0W93]

What's with the rolled up sleeves all of a sudden? Since when do the Danes care about tan lines?

Show off the new tattoo and let the Butterfly fly.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

He is very lean at the moment right?👀

Yeah, i know it's usual saying some rider is lean before an important race.

Vingo being lean is not exactly breaking news, he is not Remco.

Edit: his calves are very thin indeed, not Parthenon columns anymore. Which actually isnt good news regarding power.

 

[Salvarani]

He is ready to go. No problem!

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

The path to victory for both probably requires a similar scenario: Pog DNF/mechanical at the wrong time/accident/sudden loss of form or a huge echelon time loss, along with other rivals (Rog, Evenepoel, Rodriguez etc.) not being a level above either.

Or arriving the TT ramp 4 minutes late of time in yellow jersey (the other yellow than Visma's).
In fact that can happen.

 

[tobydawq]

First.

It's on!

 

[Boehmand]

Great he is starting the race.

The big question is if his ability for recovery is unchanged.

If he is within 3 minutes of Pogacar on the 2nd rest day, I'd normally put money on him to win - but now it's the biggest question of all if he is still better than Pogacar week 3.

 

[Didinho]

Jonas and Wout starting. We didn’t expect it after the crash. But with every week passing by we all knew they would start.
Good for the race to have them all there.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So he's back! The ultimate GT rider and Teddy's kryptonite: Skeletor from Vingehgore!
I'm glad as it adds spice to the race: it should be more interesting now and UAE even more aggressive.

 

[danielovichdk2]

So he's back! The ultimate GT rider and Teddy's kryptonite: Skeletor from Vingehgore!
I'm glad as it adds spice to the race: it should be more interesting now and UAE even more aggressive.

Wout is going to play a major role here. Both might have crashed but they come fresh and energized.

 

[Mayomaniac]

So no gc Son Jorge at the Tour?

 

[Miha81]

Good news. Now I can hardly wait

 

[Boehmand]

So no gc Son Jorge at the Tour?

He is yet to prove he can hack it in a Grand Tour.

He may do it this year, but it would be a wild strategy to bank on a guy who has a 20th as his best placement in a Grand Tour, over 2 proven Grand Tour winners.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Don't know if he is ready but I'm excited!! Go go fisherman!!

 

[Tim Cahill]

Experts urgently needed from early 2000s Ullrich fans and watchers from the Evenepoel/Contador threads to conduct extremely precise bodyfat and weight analysis.

 

[Netserk]

Just one look from Fatco and Skeletor will break!

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Just one look from Fatco and Skeletor will break!

Well, if they decide to crash again, on top of each other, let's just say there is a preferable order to who lands on top.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Wout is going to play a major role here. Both might have crashed but they come fresh and energized.

That depends on whether or not they've had to rush their preparations too much. The last months must also have been a lot harder mentally than they would have otherwise been.

 

[Nick2413]

The way his cheeks crease above his mouth is what really gives that skeletor vibe.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

OK, so a new super-domestique for Jorgenson becoming 6th?

I just read the entire route again, now with close comb.
The course itself with the puncheur hill stages start in Italy, the Troyers cobble stage, the intermediate stages, the first real mountain stages soon cannot be more brutal for Jonas in relation to his supposed competitors.
Everything speaks for Pogi starting explosively right from the box, which was already his chance before Jonas' crash (and probably what the organizers were aiming for when planning the route in detail), that he will put Vingo under such tremendous pressure in the first half of the race that the chain breaks. Even the climbs on the first 2 stages can be used to create massive spreads for riders who are not at 100%.
Bear in mind that quite a few other riders with the top skills who show up in 100% top form standing at the starting line in Firenze.

The stages in Italy and the Troyers stage will in any case be anything but calm for Jonas.

A miracle if anything else happens.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Da Fishy da Best!

 

[Boehmand]

OK, so a new super-domestique for Jorgenson becoming 6th?

I just read the entire route again, now with close comb.
The course itself with the puncheur hill stages start in Italy, the Troyers cobble stage, the intermediate stages, the first real mountain stages soon cannot be more brutal for Jonas in relation to his supposed competitors.
Everything speaks for Pogi starting explosively right from the box, which was already his chance before Jonas' crash (and probably what the organizers were aiming for when planning the route in detail), that he will put Vingo under such tremendous pressure in the first half of the race that the chain breaks. Even the climbs on the first 2 stages can be used to create massive spreads for riders who are not at 100%.
Bear in mind that quite a few other riders with the top skills who show up in 100% top form standing at the starting line in Firenze.

The stages in Italy and the Tour stage will in any case be anything but calm for Jonas.

A miracle if anything else happens.

I have no doubt Pogacar will go all out in the early part of the Tour, and we will get the usual choir of people saying the "Tour is over", when he puts 2-3 minutes into Vingegaard in that part of the race.

However IF Vingegaard hits his top level week 3, he can claw back massive amounts of time on especially stages 19 and 21, where Pogacar having done the Giro comes into play.

The big question is if Vingegaard's recovery ability and oxygen intake above 2000 meters has been conpromised by the injury.

Time will tell

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I have no doubt Pogacar will go all out in the early part of the Tour, and we will get the usual choir of people saying the "Tour is over", when he puts 2-3 minutes into Vingegaard in that part of the race.

However IF Vingegaard hits his top level week 3, he can claw back massive amounts of time on especially stages 19 and 21, where Pogacar having done the Giro comes into play.

The big question is if Vingegaard's recovery ability and oxygen intake above 2000 meters has been conpromised by the injury.

Time will tell

UAE going nuts from a get go and trying to kill/exhaust Vingo could cause Pogacar's fatigue at the end (also due to the Giro). Those two tiring each other may actually be advantageous for someone like Primoz.

 

[Nick2413]

Ideal scenario for Pogacar would look like what?

Stages 1&2 combined: 30-60 seconds
Stage 4: 1 minute?
Gravel: crapshoot
First TT: 1 minute?

 

[Roku]

If Pogacar is in control of the race and can ride defensively Ii cannot see how Vingegaard can claw back "massive amounts of time" on the third week, unless Pogi completely collapses.

 

[solo80k]

I have no doubt Pogacar will go all out in the early part of the Tour, and we will get the usual choir of people saying the "Tour is over", when he puts 2-3 minutes into Vingegaard in that part of the race.

However IF Vingegaard hits his top level week 3, he can claw back massive amounts of time on especially stages 19 and 21, where Pogacar having done the Giro comes into play.

The big question is if Vingegaard's recovery ability and oxygen intake above 2000 meters has been conpromised by the injury.

Time will tell

First, we don't know if Pogacar will be able to drop Jonas and get a bigger time gap. I feel Jonas will be flying from Stage 1. Fingers crossed for a great battle on Galibier.