Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[Le Grand Doop]

frankly he does not have to gain even a second on pog until the final ITT, tho I expect he will.

He could enter the last TT as it stands and still have a good chance.

 

[Medvind]

Vinge's climbing legs look spectacular. Maybe his punch is a little bit weak, but when he settles into his own rythm, my god. He rode Roglic and Remco off his wheel just like that, and gained on Pog already on Puy Mary (To be fair to Pog, he probably had to slow down a bit after the attack.)

Today was a huge confidence booster for Vinge.

Now, his team has to step up so they can set up Vinge for an attack. Pog might go into defensive mode now.

Ineos will probably help Jumbo LAB a bit, they want to try to get C-rod on the podium.

 

[fenns]

it's good to see that Jonas' lung injuries have in no way diminished his capacity for oxygen intake

 

[Alpehue]

It’s crazy how big a difference there seems to be in his personality, between the English and Danish interview.

The post race English one just seems kinda silly, where as the danish one where he opens up a bit about how he though he was going to die 3 months ago, and how relieved he is being back, and his thoughts being to damage control more then ever catching Pogacar.

I’m starting to get why is he liked in Denmark, but considered rather dull by others, it’s like it’s 2 different people sometimes.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

It’s crazy how big a difference there seems to be in his personality, between the English and Danish interview.

The post race English one just seems kinda silly, where as the danish one where he opens up a bit about how he though he was going to die 3 months ago, and how relieved he is being back, and his thoughts being to damage control more then ever catching Pogacar.

I’m starting to get why is he liked in Denmark, but considered rather dull by others, it’s like it’s 2 different people sometimes.

On here at least, we are multiple Danes who also find him dull.

 

[SHAD0W93]

View: https://youtu.be/wBl2QGAIx1s?si=rQtfcrgv3uy4XdQx

 

[Samu Cuenca]

View: https://youtu.be/wBl2QGAIx1s?si=rQtfcrgv3uy4XdQx

Nah, this one is the right song and version.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me_BhryXKZ8

 

[Skalman]

Congrats, its in the bag

 

[RobertCrawley]

One thing is sure, Jonas is not descending well so he can't gain 1:14 minutes on Pogacar in the TT. At least Jonas will have to drop him. Exciting weekend is coming!

It appeared Jonas was not descending well, then today coming down the mountain he took a turn in front and pushed the pace.

It looks like he's almost all the way back.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Nah, this one is the right song and version.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me_BhryXKZ8

View: https://youtu.be/vzN3qO-qc8U?si=Gg1mIemOONMaV-yw

 

[Samu Cuenca]

View: https://youtu.be/vzN3qO-qc8U?si=Gg1mIemOONMaV-yw

We could also just go with this one. Make love your goal seems to fit his line of thinking.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtdRv6GT9Zg

 

[meat puppet]

Love and family > cycling got mentioned on the rest day, which was ominous.

Joking aside, the way he is riding is just wild and I don't understand any of it. Losing that large a chunk of prime training time due to injuries but being competitive is something else.

Surely the expectation still has to be implosion because of a lacking base. My brain refuses to give up on this thought. Wondering what kind of a form a normal prep would have produced.

 

[Axel Hangleck]

it's good to see that Jonas' lung injuries have in no way diminished his capacity for oxygen intake

I find this hard to believe......Surely week 3 will find him out; otherwise the alarms are going off. Not normal....

 

[Didinho]

If this fast training formula turns out to be evenly good as the years before, should they do it more often? Couple weeks rest. Less altitude training. Less stress every day. And go hard only for a shorter period before the goal.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

If this fast training formula turns out to be evenly good as the years before, should they do it more often? Couple weeks rest. Less altitude training. Less stress every day. And go hard only for a shorter period before the goal.

I don't know how different it actually was, in the sense that he was going to take time off after Itzulia anyway. I doubt he's going to injure himself every April from now on though.

 

[Kazistuta]

I find this hard to believe......Surely week 3 will find him out; otherwise the alarms are going off. Not normal....

So what's your counter arguments? Do you think Visma has used something that should be discussed in another subforum, that magically repairs lungs?
Are you a doctor, since you know what two and a half months of rehabilitation does to ones lungs?

 

[Didinho]

I don't know how different it actually was, in the sense that he was going to take time off after Itzulia anyway. I doubt he's going to injure himself every April from now on though.

Not talking about the injury. Just taking a couple weeks more off the bike to have mental rest. If it’s possible with the shorter period he’s doing it now. Even though they have got a strong (longer) program to have everyone 100% at the right time.

 

[meat puppet]

So what's your counter arguments? Do you think Visma has used something that should be discussed in another subforum, that magically repairs lungs?
Are you a doctor, since you know what two and a half months of rehabilitation does to ones lungs?

I don't know about his argument, but I'm curious to hear it too

Foe what it's worth, the scientific community tends to think the opposite , ie that lung capacity in and for itself rarely is the key limiter of endurance performance. Cardiac output is the primary one and tissue capacity to utilise the delivered oxygen is a notable second. If this seems counterintuitive, just remember that blood returning from the working muscles to the heart will have some oxygen in it, even during max efforts.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I don't know about his argument, but I'm curious to hear it too

Foe what it's worth, the scientific community tends to think the opposite , I've that lung capacity in and for itself rarely is the key limiter of endurance performance. Cardiac output is the primary one and tissue capacity to utilise the delivered oxygen is a notable second. If this seems counterintuitive, just remember that blood returning from the working muscles to the heart will have some oxygen in it, even during max efforts.

But if your lungs aren’t bringing in the needed oxygen amount your body will stop compensating and everything falls apart.

 

[meat puppet]

But if your lungs aren’t bringing in the needed oxygen amount your body will stop compensating and everything falls apart.

I think it's safe to assume that JV's lungs are working just fine.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I think it's safe to assume that JV's lungs are working just fine.

Everything is working fine.

 

[AmRacer]

At some stage, Jonas must attack hard to gain time on Remco and Tadej. If Jonas play games with Tadej, he won't win this Tour. Unless he's confident of his capabilities at the last stage.

 

[SHAD0W93]

At some stage, Jonas must attack hard to gain time on Remco and Tadej. If Jonas play games with Tadej, he won't win this Tour. Unless he's confident of his capabilities at the last stage.

We will find out he’s been faking being poor on the descents when he says post stage he practiced stage 21 in his hospital bed.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Warrior.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

We will find out he’s been faking being poor on the descents when he says post stage he practiced stage 21 in his hospital bed.

He has said that Laporte and Van Aert have pushed him in descents during training, which has helped him regain confidence after the crash. After seeing the latter's crash today, maybe they haven't been the best coaches