Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[SHAD0W93]

Are you talking about the TTT?
Are they repeating the P-N TTT rules?

What other TT will have him be with his teammates.

No, but he’s minutes better then they are and can’t control his power.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Will the Danes allow this?

We have had many of our pro riders live in places like Toscana, Luxembourg, Monaco and Girona over the years, so I think we'll survive.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Maybe Gertrud, 74, and Hans Jørgen, 77, from downtown Glyngøre will care, but outside of that, I think most people will ask them why they didn't decide to move earlier.

As Rasmussen always said: "In order to climb fast, you have to climb fast in training". I guess he somewhat proved him wrong, but you get the idea. The guy loves the heat as well, so its really a no-brainer.

 

[tobydawq]

Maybe Gertrud, 74, and Hans Jørgen, 77, from downtown Glyngøre will care, but outside of that, I think most people will ask them why they didn't decide to move earlier.

As Rasmussen always said: "In order to climb fast, you have to climb fast in training". I guess he somewhat proved him wrong, but you get the idea. The guy loves the heat as well, so its really a no-brainer.

Were Gertrud and Hans Jørgen some of those people whose input we needed to have during some of the Tour stages?


That said, thankfully there is very little of that kind of nonsense these days.

 

[Peter von]

We have had many of our pro riders live in places like Toscana, Luxembourg, Monaco and Girona over the years, so I think we'll survive.

There is this thing where Vngegaard is much more famous because Tour win is that much bigger than everything else. So people who don't really care about cycling takes a much bigger interest in Jonas Vingegaards life than they would in Kasper Asgren or Mads Pedersen.
See also the amount of people with an opinion on his desire or lack thereof to ride in a world championship where he is not the best suited rider for the course. *

So we are going to see the tabloids try tocreate some rage bait headlines like: "This is how much Vingegaard isn't paying in taxes in his new Luxury House in ze Swiss Alps"
But I don't think it will catch on unless he is very unlucky.

*I think it's fair to have the debate and on here we kept it fairly civil, so good on us. But when we are talking about people who cannot understand that Vingegaard needs proper mountains to have a chance of winning races against the best or think that being a domestique is just something everyone can do.. you get a bit tired.

 

[FanBoi]

Vingegaard is no longer in Denmark but has traveled to southeren europe according to this article:

Jonas Vingegaard has previously been part of Spar Nord Fonden's street race in Skive, but not this year.

- He has traveled south to prepare for the Vuelta a España, which he will race on August 26, so it was not an option for us, says Brian Pedersen.

 

[RedheadDane]

No, but he’s minutes better then they are and can’t control his power.

Only just seen this. Yes, I'm slow.
Pretty sure that normal TTT rules dictate that even if a rider finishes far ahead of his teammates, he'll still get the time of the 4th man.
So he really needs some teammates nearby.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Only just seen this. Yes, I'm slow.
Pretty sure that normal TTT rules dictate that even if a rider finishes far ahead of his teammates, he'll still get the time of the 4th man.
So he really needs some teammates nearby.

I’m not saying he’d gain real time over them in it, just he will finish before they do and we will all be patiently waiting for the 4th man.

 

[RedheadDane]

I’m not saying he’d gain real time over them in it, just he will finish before they do and we will all be patiently waiting for the 4th man.

If the 4th man does not finish at the same time as Vingegaard, I shall not be waiting patiently!
I'll also silently be screaming very loudly at him for being such an idiot, and not properly employ his team.

 

[SHAD0W93]

If the 4th man does not finish at the same time as Vingegaard, I shall not be waiting patiently!
I'll also silently be screaming very loudly at him for being such an idiot, and not properly employ his team.

With the power of love, you don’t need a team

 

[SHAD0W93]

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/9Zf_BOAqVKk?feature=share

 

[Andy schleck]

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/9Zf_BOAqVKk?feature=share

Indurain, hinault, anquetil should be more worried than pogacar in the next years. Now it's time to remco and others to be concerned of what vingegaard will do in the vuelta.

 

[FanBoi]

Vingegaard's wife said to a Danish newspaper, that her dream for Jonas is to do all three grand tours in one year.

All that man needs is love

Trine afslører hedt ønske om Vingegaard: 'Det er min stille drøm'

Ville du ønske, at Vingegaard kørte alle de tre store løb?

www.bt.dk

 

[Valv.Piti]

Why not? Its his specialty, and while we said about Contador that "if anyone could do it, it would be him", but Vingegaard is in my opinion better suited for such a triple - not necessarily the better GT-rider though.

Would be fun. I could see it happening at some point, but next year? Very doubtful

 

[Red Rick]

Why not? Its his specialty, and while we said about Contador that "if anyone could do it, it would be him", but Vingegaard is in my opinion better suited for such a triple - not necessarily the better GT-rider though.

Would be fun. I could see it happening at some point, but next year? Very doubtful

My guess is he won't try because of Pogacar.

Unless they figure he can do the Giro at 80% in a weak field and then peak for the Tour anyway.

 

[Berniece]

Maybe start with this Vuelta to see if you are capable of winning two before thinking about three in one season.

I don’t see anyone in the peloton capable of winning all three at the moment.

 

[Red Rick]

The problem is nobody ever seriously tries to be at a high level for 3 GTs in a season. Valverde did it once and it wasn't too bad, and he actually raced pretty hard before the Giro.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Maybe start with this Vuelta to see if you are capable of winning two before thinking about three in one season.

I don’t see anyone in the peloton capable of winning all three at the moment.

If he goes well in the Vuelta I think he could pull off all 3. Just has to destroy the opposition in the TTs then he and his team follow everyone. I think the hardest thing would be the fatigue causing any mental issues come time to the Vuelta.

 

[Andy schleck]

What about every GC rider doing the three grand tours?

 

[Peter von]

My guess is he won't try because of Pogacar.

Unless they figure he can do the Giro at 80% in a weak field and then peak for the Tour anyway.

true. If you ride the Giro-Tour you are gambling with the performance in the Tour. If you do Tour-Vuelta you gamble with Vuelta.

I guess if he could have very few race days before the Giro and a ridiculously strong team in all three races. Maybe it’s doable for one season. But I also think the competition in the Giro is quite strong these days, so if you go into the Giro cold or at 80% it might not be enough to win it.

yeah this year it looked easy in the last week but there is rarely such a thing as an easy win over Pogi.

 

[Andy schleck]

true. If you ride the Giro-Tour you are gambling with the performance in the Tour. If you do Tour-Vuelta you gamble with Vuelta.

I guess if he could have very few race days before the Giro and a ridiculously strong team in all three races. Maybe it’s doable for one season. But I also think the competition in the Giro is quite strong these days, so if you go into the Giro cold or at 80% it might not be enough to win it.

yeah this year it looked easy in the last week but there is rarely such a thing as an easy win over Pogi.

The level in the giro this year was weak. Pogacar or vingegaard could win the giro without being in top shape.

 

[Berniece]

I don’t think you can ride the TDF at 100% if you ride the Giro, no matter at what level you start in the Giro. If you try to win it and have to go all out for 3 weeks straight, that’s definitely gonna have an impact on the 3rd week of the Tour.

But based on his performance this year, I can see him win the Tour at 95% if he’s a bit lucky

 

[theyoungest]

I don’t think you can ride the TDF at 100% if you ride the Giro, no matter at what level you start in the Giro. If you try to win it and have to go all out for 3 weeks straight, that’s definitely gonna have an impact on the 3rd week of the Tour.

But based on his performance this year, I can see him win the Tour at 95% if he’s a bit lucky

Tom Dumoulin got 2nd in the Giro and the Tour, consecutively. And he said that he was better in the Tour than he was in the Giro.

I think Vingegaard can be at a good to great level in all three GTs, whether it will be enough to win them depends on a lot of things, of course. First you need to stay on your bike, stay healthy, not mess up on a cobbles stage, etc. But I think if anyone in the current peloton can do it, it's him.

 

[Red Rick]

Tom Dumoulin got 2nd in the Giro and the Tour, consecutively. And he said that he was better in the Tour than he was in the Giro.

I think Vingegaard can be at a good to great level in all three GTs, whether it will be enough to win them depends on a lot of things, of course. First you need to stay on your bike, stay healthy, not mess up on a cobbles stage, etc. But I think if anyone in the current peloton can do it, it's him.

Important to note that Dumoulin didn't hit the crazy highs of the 2017 Giro in either Tour or Giro in 2018.

 

[Valv.Piti]

If the level is similar to the Giro this year, Vingegaard could definitely win without being 100%. I was not impressed at literally any point outside of the first time trial by Evenepoel and that one very hard dig by Roglic (and Hart) at the hilly stage. Important to remember that Roglic was not at 100% either (I assume) and that Remco got COVID, maybe then it would have looked different. But in the end, that was not only a whack Giro to follow, but I also don't think the level was anything special at all (which probably also contributed to it being such a defensive slugfest).