Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[Samu Cuenca]

You know that's not actually how it works, right? People having both a middle name, and a surname isn't exactly a new thing. The new(ish) thing is for the husband to also adopt a name from his wife.

I wonder if we'll ever see an Icelandic rider called something like Alfreð Sigurðs-Jóhannasson.

Jonas is a stud, but not such stud.It would just take too much energy.

He's got so much love inside that it would be a waste not to share it with the world.

 

[CyclistAbi]

You know that's not actually how it works, right? People having both a middle name, and a surname isn't exactly a new thing. The new(ish) thing is for the husband to also adopt a name from his wife.

I guess this is a cultural thing too. Slovenians tend to have one name and one surname and that is it. Or at least it used to be like that. Now i guess the trend of two surnames is surging, due to i guess some parents unable to decide if all should adopt the surname of father or mother. Or i guess mother and mother or father and father. But this is AFAIK still affecting minority.

So yes, i guess Slovenian and Danish tradition, when it comes to surnames, is different from the get go.

 

[Froome]

I guess this is a cultural thing too. Slovenians tend to have one name and one surname and that is it. Or at least it used to be like that. Now i guess the trend of two surnames is surging, due to i guess some parents unable to decide if all should adopt the surname of father or mother. Or i guess mother and mother or father and father. But this is AFAIK still affecting minority.

So yes, i guess Slovenian and Danish tradition, when it comes to surnames, is different from the get go.

In my country people usually have two surnames, the surname of the mother and the surname of the father. The surname of the father is always the last name.

 

[AmRacer]

In my country people usually have two surnames, the surname of the mother and the surname of the mother. The surname of the father is always the last name.

🤔

 

[RedheadDane]

I guess this is a cultural thing too. Slovenians tend to have one name and one surname and that is it. Or at least it used to be like that. Now i guess the trend of two surnames is surging, due to i guess some parents unable to decide if all should adopt the surname of father or mother. Or i guess mother and mother or father and father. But this is AFAIK still affecting minority.

So yes, i guess Slovenian and Danish tradition, when it comes to surnames, is different from the get go.

Nothing wrong with having multiple names! Personally I think four is a quite reasonable number of names.

So, as you might have figured out by now, in Denmark everybody has one surname, and sometimes also a middle name. Those names comes from the father, or the mother, or both, it varies.
Hope that clears everything up!

 

[CyclistAbi]

In my country people usually have two surnames, the surname of the mother and the surname of the mother. The surname of the father is always the last name.

Are you sure about that? That is even in some polygamistic societies i don't know of any being developed in a way two mothers could claim the same child.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Nothing wrong with having multiple names! Personally I think four is a quite reasonable number of names.

So, as you might have figured out by now, in Denmark everybody has one surname, and sometimes also a middle name. Those names comes from the father, or the mother, or both, it varies.
Hope that clears everything up!

Is Maja Winther Brandt Heisel your favourite rider?

 

[CyclistAbi]

Nothing wrong with having multiple names! Personally I think four is a quite reasonable number of names.

So, as you might have figured out by now, in Denmark everybody has one surname, and sometimes also a middle name. Those names comes from the father, or the mother, or both, it varies.
Hope that clears everything up!

And i guess the current culture, wokeism, favours two surnames anyway. Personally i find two surnames to be rather inefficient. Beyond that i don't have any issues with it.

 

[Froome]

Are you sure about that? That is even in some polygamistic societies i don't know of any being developed in a way two mothers could claim the same child.

Father* 😂

 

[RedheadDane]

And i guess the current culture, wokeism, favours two surnames anyway. Personally i find two surnames to be rather inefficient. Beyond that i don't have any issues with it.

Nobody has two surnames... in this case, 'Vingegaard' is the middle name, their surname is, well, 'Hansen'.

 

[Froome]

Father* 😂

How many names you have @CyclistAbi ? (Name+surname/s)

 

[CyclistAbi]

Nobody has two surnames... in this case, 'Vingegaard' is the middle name, their surname is, well, 'Hansen'.

So basically he took his wife surname and abandoned his own? Well. We now at least know who "copata" is in this relationship.

Joking aside i support whatever agreement they feel comfortable with as it doesn't affect me in any meaningful way.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Jonas is never tired! He's always with even more energy in the third week.

Skeletor's full focus is on spanking Teddy and co in July. No energy wasting for side projects.

 

[CyclistAbi]

How many names you have @CyclistAbi ? (Name+surname/s)

I will likely always stick with two. Unless i guess i change my mind.

 

[RedheadDane]

So basically he took his wife surname and abandoned his own?

And she got his middle name.

 

[CyclistAbi]

And she got his middle name.

Why?

 

[RedheadDane]

Why?

So they both have the same combo... they're not exactly the first to do that.

 

[CyclistAbi]

So they both have the same combo... they're not exactly the first to do that.

So basically Jonases parents gave him two surnames (OK one bing middle name). Now Jonas is a parent and out of two surnames (OK one being middle name) he chose one and his wife provided the second one. Likely due to Jonas not wanting to change his mid name to Marie? Anyway, technically he and his children are now back to name, mid name and surname.

So i am guessing that one of his parents provided Vingegaard and another Rasmussen to form their family name? Or it's more complicated than that?

 

[Netserk]

Skeletor's full focus is on spanking Teddy and co in July.

He'll pump him?

 

[RedheadDane]

So i am guessing that one of his parents provided Vingegaard and another Rasmussen to form their family name? Or it's more complicated than that?

Could be...

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Asking your twice Tour winning, famous husband to go against cultural norms and take your last name instead is peak 2024 narcissism, IMO. They could have both kept their own last names if she wanted to buck the patriarchy. But the east stage racer of the current age, and owner of the greatest climbing season of the modern era, IMO, deserves to keep his last name if anyone does.

Ultimately, for continuity, only one last name gets passed down. My wife’s parents gave her a hyphenated last name, combining their two names so no one was treated as “less than,” but as @CyclistAbi says, to keep both again would mean we would have 3 names (her two plus mine all strung together with hyphens) and our kids would then have to mash together with someone else’s names.

 

[RedheadDane]

Asking your twice Tour winning, famous husband to go against cultural norms and take your last name instead is peak 2024 narcissism, IMO. They could have both kept their own last names if she wanted to buck the patriarchy. But the east stage racer of the current age, and owner of the greatest climbing season of the modern era, IMO, deserves to keep his last name if anyone does.

Cultural norms are changing.
It's the same thing with 'Valgren Hundahl' and 'Norman Leth'.
Besides, he's keeping the name everybody refers to him by... I don't think I've seen one example of him being called 'Rasmussen'.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Asking your twice Tour winning, famous husband to go against cultural norms and take your last name instead is peak 2024 narcissism, IMO. They could have both kept their own last names if she wanted to buck the patriarchy. But the east stage racer of the current age, and owner of the greatest climbing season of the modern era, IMO, deserves to keep his last name if anyone does.

Ultimately, for continuity, only one last name gets passed down. My wife’s parents gave her a hyphenated last name, combining their two names so no one was treated as “less than,” but as @CyclistAbi says, to keep both again would mean we would have 3 names (her two plus mine all strung together with hyphens) and our kids would then have to mash together with someone else’s names. Some in the states get around this conundrum by truly combining last names, creating a new name, but then you are completely casting aside all ties to any ancestors. Even as a progressive democrat, I’m too traditional and value my roots too much for that.

I'm not sure you've fully understood what's happened here, but at the end of the day it's just a name, and in this case people probably won't call him anything but Vingegaard anyway, unless he insists on it. I mean people are rarely talking about Florian Sénéchal-Staelens, for instance.

Also there's a chance that his daughter has had this name combination all along. My sister and her partner (they're not married (yet)) have given their three children their two middle names/matrinames instead of their legal surnames.

 

[Netserk]

Asking your twice Tour winning, famous husband to go against cultural norms and take your last name instead is peak 2024 narcissism, IMO. They could have both kept their own last names if she wanted to buck the patriarchy. But the east stage racer of the current age, and owner of the greatest climbing season of the modern era, IMO, deserves to keep his last name if anyone does.

My father took my mother's surname over 30 years ago. Danish cultural norms for names changed long ago.

 

[theyoungest]

Asking your twice Tour winning, famous husband to go against cultural norms and take your last name instead is peak 2024 narcissism, IMO. They could have both kept their own last names if she wanted to buck the patriarchy. But the east stage racer of the current age, and owner of the greatest climbing season of the modern era, IMO, deserves to keep his last name if anyone does.

Ultimately, for continuity, only one last name gets passed down. My wife’s parents gave her a hyphenated last name, combining their two names so no one was treated as “less than,” but as @CyclistAbi says, to keep both again would mean we would have 3 names (her two plus mine all strung together with hyphens) and our kids would then have to mash together with someone else’s names. Some in the states get around this conundrum by truly combining last names, creating a new name, but then you are completely casting aside all ties to any ancestors. Even as a progressive democrat, I’m too traditional and value my roots too much for that.

It didn't even cross your mind that maybe it's Jonas who came up with the idea to change their name. Instead you call his wife a narcissist. Now that's a lot of things, but I wouldn't call it progressive thinking.