Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[Netserk]

@Netserk are you dane?

Yes, and known for cheering on all Danish riders.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Netserk is Danish but only cheers for Danish riders nobody else will cheer for.

j/k

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Why?

Because he always attacks. It‘s repetitive.

 

[Froome]

Of course he doesn't win fans racing like this but he was very smart today. He knows only Pogacar can beat him, so he completely ignores all other gc riders. This is all a mind game and he is getting what he wants, a nervous and anxious Pogacar. He needs to survive Wednesday and the first weekend without being over 2 and half minutes on GC. If he is under, he can win the Tour.

Visma was pushing when Roglic was behind, but Emirates didn't helped.

By that logic, Emirates also don't care about the other GC riders.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yes, and known for cheering on all Danish riders.

This explains everything. TY
(Don't worry, I get it. I also want Almeida to beat Ayuso)

 

[Peyroteo94]

Visma was pushing when Roglic was behind, but Emirates didn't helped.

By that logic, Emirates also don't care about the other GC riders.

Yes, they don't. I said this numerous times in the stage thread. This is all about Pogacar vs Vingegaard.

 

[hayneplane]

I can understand what Vingegaard did today but I don’t have to like it. He has so much power and talent but is so lacking in the ciclismo panache that makes a rider loved instead of just admired.

It shows he has the engine and burst to go well in the classics like Pogacar but unlike Pog it’s hard to imagine that he will ever try them.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I can understand what Vingegaard did today but I don’t have to like it. He has so much power and talent but is so lacking in the ciclismo panache that makes a rider loved instead of just admired.

It shows he has the engine and burst to go well in the classics like Pogacar but unlike Pog it’s hard to imagine that he will ever try them.

Vingo races as if he was a machine taking only well-calculated decisions. Oh wait...

 

[Froome]

I can understand what Vingegaard did today but I don’t have to like it. He has so much power and talent but is so lacking in the ciclismo panache that makes a rider loved instead of just admired.

It shows he has the engine and burst to go well in the classics like Pogacar but unlike Pog it’s hard to imagine that he will ever try them.

The problem is the fact some people are forgetting where he came from. He had serious injuries 3 months ago. He is in good shape, but he not yet at his best.

Based on that, they have a plant and he sticks to the plan like in the two previous Tour.

 

[Peyroteo94]

He races like a robot and for that reason he is so hard to beat but also hard to cheer for.

 

[Medvind]

I can understand what Vingegaard did today but I don’t have to like it. He has so much power and talent but is so lacking in the ciclismo panache that makes a rider loved instead of just admired.

It shows he has the engine and burst to go well in the classics like Pogacar but unlike Pog it’s hard to imagine that he will ever try them.

He ain't doing Vuelta this year, so maybe he will ride Lombardy?

He could be up there in LBL, but winning if Pog and/or Remco is there? How? On a tough Lombardy course he might have a chance.

But when it comes to panache, well, seeing him winning solo multiple times in T-A and O Gran Camino this year was quite spectacular. When he is in top shape he is lethal.

 

[Maxss]

Great ride by Jonas and the team today, so proud of them! To be able to control Pogi on this terrain is incredible. Also Matteo was so strong, and was able to pull Pogi back at a critical moment.

 

[Froome]

He ain't doing Vuelta this year, so maybe he will ride Lombardy?

He could be up there in LBL, but winning if Pog and/or Remco is there? How? On a tough Lombardy course he might have a chance.

But when it comes to panache, well, seeing him winning solo multiple times in T-A and O Gran Camino this year was quite spectacular. When he is in top shape he is lethal.

I didn't heard anyone from Visma saying he is doing the Vuelta.

 

[Netserk]

This explains everything. TY
(Don't worry, I get it. I also want Almeida to beat Ayuso)

It helps to listen to him in Danish. Unlike toby, I actually like his personality and find it much easier to relate to him than to Pogi. Likewise with Michael Rasmussen. I think those two are the only Danes I've really hoped would win some bike races.

 

[hayneplane]

He ain't doing Vuelta this year, so maybe he will ride Lombardy?

He could be up there in LBL, but winning if Pog and/or Remco is there? How? On a tough Lombardy course he might have a chance.

But when it comes to panache, well, seeing him winning solo multiple times in T-A and O Gran Camino this year was quite spectacular. When he is in top shape he is lethal.

Call me crazy if you want but I could see him podiuming Flanders in an edition where Pogacar rips the legs off the field on every berg and Jonas is able to follow. He might even be a better bet to win than Wout nowadays who always falls short of MVDP in monument distance events.

 

[Valv.Piti]

I really cant understand how you can feel that way about Vinge and not Pedersen. Sure, Pedersen might not be the sharpest tool in the box at times, but he races like a champ. Im not a big fan of his either tbh, but I like watching him race even though I usually cheer for a few of his opponents instead.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

He ain't doing Vuelta this year, so maybe he will ride Lombardy?

He could be up there in LBL, but winning if Pog and/or Remco is there? How? On a tough Lombardy course he might have a chance.

But when it comes to panache, well, seeing him winning solo multiple times in T-A and O Gran Camino this year was quite spectacular. When he is in top shape he is lethal.

Amount or stages/races won by Pogacar of over 200km: 13
Amount or stages/races won by Evenepoel of over 200km: 10
Amount or stages/races won by Vingegaard of over 200km: 0

 

[Netserk]

I really cant understand how you can feel that way about Vinge and not Pedersen. Sure, Pedersen might not be the sharpest tool in the box at times, but he races like a champ. Im not a big fan of his either tbh, but I like watching him race even though I usually cheer for a few of his opponents instead.

I respect him, but whether he, Asgreen or someone like Küng wins are all the same to me.

 

[RedheadDane]

I didn't heard anyone from Visma saying he is doing the Vuelta.

I don't think there has been anything official yet, either way. However, with the new baby coming, he probably isn't going to race.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Amount or stages/races won by Pogacar of over 200km: 13
Amount or stages/races won by Evenepoel of over 200km: 10
Amount or stages/races won by Vingegaard of over 200km: 0

Endurance seems Vingo's Achilles heel.

 

[Netserk]

Endurance seems Vingo's Achilles heel.

He's lucky the 4 big MTFs are in sub-200 km stages!

 

[Medvind]

Amount or stages/races won by Pogacar of over 200km: 13
Amount or stages/races won by Evenepoel of over 200km: 10
Amount or stages/races won by Vingegaard of over 200km: 0

So what's your point? I replied to some who thought Vinge should try to ride more one-day races because he might do well in them with his engine. As you know he hasn't ridden many. I thought that Lombardy would be his best chance because the climbs are longer than in LBL.

I didn't claim he might be as good as Pog or Remco if he tried, that would be absurd. But you disagree he might stand a chance in Lombardy? Sure, would be very difficult if Pog was on the startline, but if he wasn't I give him a decent chance.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

I actually like him as well. Think he has an underrated sense of humor and he's more charismatic than one would think at first glance. I think his image of being dull comes mainly because he genuinely doesn't like big media coverage (as in having no socials etc.) and people only see these 30 seconds post and pre stage interviews (which are mostly totally pointless).

Also, compared to Pogacar, Roglic and Remco, he's 100% less self-centered and has less of a sole ruler demand site to him.
I was wumming a lot back than and enjoyed the shitshow because I disliked Visma but I genuinely believe he actually wanted Sepp Kuss to win the Vuelta and was just caught in between hilarious race development and Roglic wanting to win himself.

 

[solo80k]

Amount or stages/races won by Pogacar of over 200km: 13
Amount or stages/races won by Evenepoel of over 200km: 10
Amount or stages/races won by Vingegaard of over 200km: 0

If true, Pogacar should try to make big difference on Stage 11 (211 kms with the explosive climbs in the last 35 kms). To be honest, it's a perfect stage to bury some contenders and Pog should try to seriously test Jonas on this stage.

 

[kn0s]

I wanted Visma to ride it differently, let Pogi get 30 sec, hitch Remco donkey to the front and let him pull all day. Oh, what glorious entertainment that would be, because we all like for riders to do what makes no sense. The amount of stupidity on display, is staggering at times.