Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

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I feel that it is a good Giro route for a Giro/Tour double attempt. The depth of both supporting teams isn't all that bad but it does seem that resources are now rather sparse. The biggest downside could be potential injuries but then again Jonas likely does want to win Giro in his career and i guess it's time to start trying.
 
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I feel that it is a good Giro route for a Giro/Tour double attempt. The depth of both supporting teams isn't all that bad but it does seem that resources are now rather sparse.
Meaning that it isn't quite hard,
:laughing:

Though his opposition:
- Almeida
- Carapaz (at least if he's in 2025's giro condition, otherwise not so much)
- Pellizzari
- Hindley
- Mas (he's rarely good, and most of the times it happens at vuelta, but you never know)
-...
while not being crazy strong, still appears way more challenging than Pog's in 2024:
Daniel Martinez, 38y.o. G.Thomas, Tiberi, O'Connor, Arensmann
I mean we all say jokingly that Tadej won the 2024 giro in 'zone 2'.

The biggest downside could be potential injuries but then again Jonas likely does want to win Giro in his career and i guess it's time to start trying.
I think the triple GT feat is a bit overrated, but nonetheless it definitely holds some value.
Only 7 did it. All big names.

IDK... would completing the triple be worth:
- less than 2 more TdFs
but:
- more than 1 one TdFs
?
Though here we'd have to assume that if Vingo won another TdF that would be against Pogi, not against Oscar Pereiro, and therefore it would hold a lot more weight.
 
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No Catalunya this year either then. Simon Yates and Cian Uijtdebroeks GT leaderships confirmed.

Let's hope for his sake that it isn't anything serious, and that it doesn't give him flashbacks to previous incidents, provided that the whole thing isn't just a fish in a tea cup.
 
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he crashed in training today
Not much damage and likely entirely his own fault.
Though Visma seems to want to pin in on cycling fans putting Jonas under pressure...
Apparantly he was not too happy with cycling fans following his wheel and tried to shake them.
Now I remember another cyclist getting flack for not enjoying that...
 
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Not much damage and likely entirely his own fault.
Though Visma seems to want to pin in on cycling fans putting Jonas under pressure...
Apparantly he was not too happy with cycling fans following his wheel and tried to shake them.
Now I remember another cyclist getting flack for not enjoying that...
I mean, I understand, it's annoying as hell. If some guy is glued at my wheel during a random bike ride I'm also annoyed. Him begin a professional rider it must have all the time.

Next time maybe wait for a climb to drop the amateur instead of a descend.
 
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Airbag would help?

I feel that now, after teams are starting introduction of airbag technology in pro peloton, that the joke is basically over. In crashes of course an airbag would always help. As Jonas hurt his face i feel that another piece of technology likely helped, a helmet.

As for this specific case i feel you misunderstood me. Measures in terms of training in a team, with a team car or when training solo to at least have some escort, for example a staff member on a electric scoter. That realistically is now becoming a need, something teams will need to start providing to assist their riders when confronted with needy fans on a long "solo" training sessions. Privacy is unfortunately not a luxury they still have.
 
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I mean, I understand, it's annoying as hell. If some guy is glued at my wheel during a random bike ride I'm also annoyed. Him begin a professional rider it must have all the time.

Next time maybe wait for a climb to drop the amateur instead of a descend.

Well, if that fan tried to do something reckless overtaking Vingegaard with a dangerous move potentially risking a crash, it's normal that Vingegaard took more risks in order to drop him, thus leading to the crash.

Hopefully there isn't anything serious.
 
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Not sure how anyone who wasn’t there could know what happened in such a nuanced situation.

It was shared publicly on what happened and all persons involved were named and shared their views. Team made a statement and journalists shared their opinions. Hard to ask for more information.
 
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Not much damage and likely entirely his own fault.
Though Visma seems to want to pin in on cycling fans putting Jonas under pressure...
Apparantly he was not too happy with cycling fans following his wheel and tried to shake them.
Now I remember another cyclist getting flack for not enjoying that...
If Jonas wants to drop someone he could do what Pogi did on an uphill. Trying to outrace anyone on a road open to traffic is how riders die. I've been to 2 memorials for local riders that passed doing the same thing. Both were riding above their skill level and cheated the center line into a car. Both had the same mentality which put them at risk, too.
 
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I know I wouldn't want anyone in my wheel when training as a pro. It's an (undesired) distraction from training and more importantly, from concentrating on the road and traffic in general.

If I follow someone, I ask. If I get followed, I usually don't care but that's just me. Following wheels of people you don't know, without asking, is just bad practice. I can only roll my eyes at all those people, especially those posting on social media, wheel sucking / filming pro riders on their ride without being invited on the ride.
 
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It's IMHO a natural impulse, trying to follow the wheel of a cycling superstar and beyond. It just comes naturally with this sport.

Teams hence will need to manage this better.
 

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