Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[Red Rick]

Tagging on the back of pros when they're doing any kind of efforts or interval blocks is an absolute no-no..

If they're just rolling easy/ doing Z2 it's a bit different but if you're gonna sit on for more than a couple minutes it's probably best to ask if they're alright with you tagging on the back for a while.

Anyone who actually trains knows how irritating it can be when you're pushing hard. Even if you're not pushing, for someone like Jonas who is a bit on the spectrum/hypersensitive it's gonna be really annoying if someone you don't know won't get off your wheel.

If the guy cannnot read Jonas body language to see that he's not wanted there then he's clearly lacking a bit of social intelligence.

The ethical thing is if they're doing zone 2 is to start taking pulls and blow yourself up while the professional rider in question looks at you with confusion.

 

[AmRacer]

That said, I do walk, run, ride and swim close behind everyone because you never know who will become famous in the future.

Maybe there's a reason other people gathering around you 🤔

 

[RedheadDane]

It's a public road. That's the basic fact here. And Visma's error in their response is their attempt to make this a wider issue when it cannot ever be one by virtue of the fact... the roads are public and fans have as much right to ride there as the pros do.

Nobody is saying other people shouldn't be allowed to be on the road!
Just that they shouldn't be in the wheels of the pros...
I don't get this idea that just because someone is famous, doesn't mean they don't deserve the same human decency as everyone else.
So, I'll ask you:
Would jumping on the wheel of some random cyclist be okay?
Of course not!
Therefore it obviously also isn't okay to jump on the wheel of a pro.

 

[Divergence]

I wonder about the following scenario:
You are riding on a climb and pushing relatively hard (say 95%). Then a pro comes by at a speed you feel you can sustain for a bit in his wheel. Is is OK to try to hand on, even without asking? I believe it is.
Now, if you are on a flat road I think you should ask if you want to tag along and if a descend comes up give plenty of space.
If you are caught and passed by on a descend just let them go.

 

[Rackham]

So, I'll ask you:
Would jumping on the wheel of some random cyclist be okay?
Of course not!
Therefore it obviously also isn't okay to jump on the wheel of a pro.

Actually it happens all the time. I've seen this argument made by others over the past 48 hours and I really don't see what it's all about (i.e. people claiming riding on someone's wheel is a massive faux pas and no-no). If you're out there on the road (or a dedicated cycling route like a voie verte in France) you regularly come across total strangers and basically ride along. No problem. It's social.

There's zero sign that says "stay the hell of my wheel you scum!". In fact that would be deliriously anti-social.

And on the topic here, what we know is Vingegaard crashed himself on a descent. It sounds like he was in a bad mood and then projected that onto the total stranger.