Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[AmRacer]

Okay… can I have a personal opinion? That I find WC RR, 2x LBL, Vuelta, 3x WC ITT and OG double more interesting than a single TDF like Pereiro?

One Tour and one Giro?

 

[Cycling111]

Okay… can I have a personal opinion? That I find WC RR, 2x LBL, Vuelta, 3x WC ITT and OG double more interesting than a single TDF like Pereiro?

Of course you can give your opinion. I've given the opinion of someone (Eddy Merckx) who won everything there was to win in his era.

 

[Red Rick]

For what it's worth I think Xabi Alonso is still traumatized too, he's still picking bits of stud out of his ribcage.

He played with Pepe and Sergio Ramos, he probably got worse in training.

 

[topcat]

Vinnie would rather win the Giro than the tour in 2026. Nibali said the Giro was as big as the tour for him.
Yes, the tour is the biggest race but not bigger than a good combination of the other races (also it's debatable whether winning the tour is harder than me losing those 5 kilos).
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/racin...-jonas-vingegaard-seeks-out-grand-tour-triple

 

[theyoungest]

Okay… can I have a personal opinion? That I find WC RR, 2x LBL, Vuelta, 3x WC ITT and OG double more interesting than a single TDF like Pereiro?

This was about whether Evenepoel would give up his palmares for Vingegaard's. I think he would.

Why do you think he's constantly talking about preparing for the Tour, this is not the Tour yet, it's all about the Tour, I've come to Red Bull to win the Tour, I'll be losing weight for the Tour, I'll be killing my puppy for the Tour... it's because the Tour is everything. I haven't really noticed him talking about his plans for Liege or Montreal. But then again, I'm not a huge Evenepoel aficionado, so I could be wrong.

 

[theyoungest]

For what it's worth I think Xabi Alonso is still traumatized too, he's still picking bits of stud out of his ribcage.

Nigel de Jong is currently the technical director of the Dutch FA. God help us.

 

[AmRacer]

This was about whether Evenepoel would give up his palmares for Vingegaard's. I think he would.

Why do you think he's constantly talking about preparing for the Tour, this is not the Tour yet, it's all about the Tour, I've come to Red Bull to win the Tour, I'll be losing weight for the Tour, I'll be killing my puppy for the Tour... it's because the Tour is everything. I haven't really noticed him talking about his plans for Liege or Montreal. But then again, I'm not a huge Evenepoel aficionado, so I could be wrong.

After his other wins, he wants to win the Tour. Don't know if he wants to trade his current palmares for a Tour, but maybe for a Tour and a Giro.

 

[Tanakka]

Vinnie would rather win the Giro than the tour in 2026. Nibali said the Giro was as big as the tour for him.
Yes, the tour is the biggest race but not bigger than a good combination of the other races (also it's debatable whether winning the tour is harder than me losing those 5 kilos).
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/racin...-jonas-vingegaard-seeks-out-grand-tour-triple

I could see how:
- winning 'The triple' for someone who already has 2 TdFs
can be bigger than winning one more TdFs*

But:
winning two more TdFs, therefore reaching 4 total TdFs, is most likely bigger than having 2 TdFs + 1 Vuelta + 1 Giro, and therefore the same amount of GTs (4) plus completing the Triple.

3 TdFs < '2 TdFs + Triple' (4 total GTs) < 4 TdFs (no triple)


*beating Pogacar carries way more weight than beating Oscar Pereiro, but lets not complicate things even more.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Vinnie would rather win the Giro than the tour in 2026. Nibali said the Giro was as big as the tour for him.
Yes, the tour is the biggest race but not bigger than a good combination of the other races (also it's debatable whether winning the tour is harder than me losing those 5 kilos).
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/racin...-jonas-vingegaard-seeks-out-grand-tour-triple

Nibali has objectively the best palmares of all time (considering the circumstances), so we must take his opinion seriously.

 

[Rackham]

Vinnie would rather win the Giro than the tour in 2026. Nibali said the Giro was as big as the tour for him.
Yes, the tour is the biggest race but not bigger than a good combination of the other races (also it's debatable whether winning the tour is harder than me losing those 5 kilos).
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/racin...-jonas-vingegaard-seeks-out-grand-tour-triple

Since Visma needs a new sponsor I suspect they might disagree with Vinge on that one.