Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[Krzysztof_O]

But his team has announced Vingegaard will participate at the Tour ONLY at 100 %. So, start at 98 % and "grow" or become stronger during the Tour (as Van Aert did a few years ago after surgery for appendicitis, winning 3 stages the last 10 days) will not happen.

If Pogacar was peaking 100% for the Tour then maybe but it's not the case. They can still rethink it and in case Jonas is at 90-95% they may decide to give it a try.

 

[Froome]

there's a piece on Corriere, Italian newspaper by MArco Bonarrigo www.twitter.com/cyclingpro about Jonas' father not being able to speak with his son yet and being worried his condition is worse than what Visma says

There has to be something wrong with that interview.

Vingegaard's wife is at the hospital with Vingegaard. How can Vingegaard's father doesn't know what is happening through vingegaard's wife?

If there was something really serious with the lungs, they would never do the operation to the collarbone.

 

[Oldermanish]

Jonas can do as you did, attack in the third week.

Realistically he would probably check out before that if he started unless a miracle recovery occurs in the next weeks. You don't use the first two weeks for training and still be in any GC position or be recovered enough for week 3.

 

[Jack_89]

the guy is still hospitalized, and people fantasize about doing the Tour or even winning it. slow down. or at least be realistic, following a "wait and see" stuff.

 

[pastronef]

There has to be something wrong with that interview.

Vingegaard's wife is at the hospital with Vingegaard. How can Vingegaard's father doesn't know what is happening through vingegaard's wife?

If there was something really serious with the lungs, they would never do the operation to the collarbone.

yep, and tbf it's by Marco Bonarrigo, a friend of Varjas and Vildary, usually looking for news/scoops, well...

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Realistically he would probably check out before that if he started unless a miracle recovery occurs in the next weeks. You don't use the first two weeks for training and still be in any GC position or be recovered enough for week 3.

I don’t know. He wasn’t great the first week of the Vuelta and then came good. I don’t think it’s impossible this year, given that every contender will have a reason they might not be at 100%.

 

[Anderis]

the guy is still hospitalized, and people fantasize about doing the Tour or even winning it. slow down. or at least be realistic, following a "wait and see" stuff.

I would be astonished if Vingegaard comes anywhere near TdF winning form by July given the severity of his injuries.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

To clarify, I would too. I was just replying to the, He won’t ride at 95%, stance.

 

[RedheadDane]

there's a piece on Corriere, Italian newspaper by MArco Bonarrigo www.twitter.com/cyclingpro about Jonas' father not being able to speak with his son yet and being worried his condition is worse than what Visma says

That was on Ekstra Bladet as well, though I don't know where it originated.
They (EB) put it behind a pay-wall...

 

[Jack_89]

I would be astonished if Vingegaard comes anywhere near TdF winning form by July given the severity of his injuries.

I'm personally more concerned about his health and recovery. Each body reacts in its own way: Ala, with some similar wounds, never came back. Bernal too. I just think it's too early to jump to conclusions based on limited informations. I know well that those are not the intentions, but reading certain messages it seems there is more concern about the participation in the Tour than for his own health.

 

[Oldermanish]

I don’t know. He wasn’t great the first week of the Vuelta and then came good. I don’t think it’s impossible this year, given that every contender will have a reason they might not be at 100%.

Different injury, race and level of competition. He was on a team ride at la Vuelta, not facing Pogacar, Roglic as a pure opponent among others.

 

[kn0s]

I'm personally more concerned about his health and recovery. Each body reacts in its own way: Ala, with some similar wounds, never came back. Bernal too. I just think it's too early to jump to conclusions based on limited informations. I know well that those are not the intentions, but reading certain messages it seems there is more concern about the participation in the Tour than for his own health.

Not sure Ala and Bernal are effected by their crashers anymore. There is something wrong at quickstep and with Bernal the level of the field is just not what it was when he was up there.

 

[Froome]

Not sure Ala and Bernal are effected by their crashers anymore. There is something wrong at quickstep and with Bernal the level of the field is just not what it was when he was up there.

Bernal also had more serious injuries. Vingegaard's legs weren't affected.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Vingegaard couldnt be operated completely because he still has internal bleedings apparently. It doesn't sound good. Also his parents get no updates from the hospital or the team. Really ominous all together

 

[Red Rick]

Vingegaard couldnt be operated completely because he still has internal bleedings apparently. It doesn't sound good. Also his parents get no updates from the hospital or the team. Really ominous all together

Weird story cause they should never be able to pass medical information by his wife amd leave her in the dark. She should normally be the emergency contact

 

[Froome]

Vingegaard couldnt be operated completely because he still has internal bleedings apparently. It doesn't sound good. Also his parents get no updates from the hospital or the team. Really ominous all together

I heard that story yesterday, and it doesn't make any sense. Vingegaard's wife is at the hospital, so he knows what's going on.


Probably a fake story just like the story about Vingegaard warn in January the organization of Tour Basque Country about the descent where all happened.

 

[DNP-Old]

I heard that story yesterday, and it doesn't make any sense. Vingegaard's wife is at the hospital, so he knows what's going on.


Probably a fake story just like the story about Vingegaard warn in January the organization of Tour Basque Country about the descent where all happened.

I don't know much regarding the reliability of Ekstra Bladet, whether it's a serious medium or a gossip kind of outlet, but a direct quote from Claus Vingegaard doesn't seem to be hitting the same level of uncertainty as some guy with financial stakes.

 

[Rackham]

Wielerflits running with the same story: https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/o...ans-gehad-om-met-hem-te-praten/#post-comments

Claus Vingegaard, Jonas' father, comes a week after the heavy fall with an interview in the Danish newspaper Ekstra Bladet. "It's hell for us," he says. "A week after his fall, my wife and I still haven't heard from Jonas. We just didn't get the chance yet. Not with Jonas, but also not with his wife and Visma | Lease a Bike. I don't know how that's possible, but it's that it's supposed to be that way, right?"

Vingegaard senior therefore has no update on his son's physical condition. "We really only know what we read in the media. It's not that we don't want to visit him in Spain, but at the moment I don't think we should. We are currently only receiving minor updates."

 

[stonerider]

Kelderman already broke 4 times the collarbone, that's a problem for him.

Cyclist weak bones? He may need to do some weight bearing exercises.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Cycling in off-season just turns into a sort of pink press.

I wish Jonas to be back in action asap. Seems that the gods of cycling don't allow many sharks in the same tank.

 

[stonerider]

I heard that story yesterday, and it doesn't make any sense. Vingegaard's wife is at the hospital, so he knows what's going on.

Just because the wife knows what is going on doesn't mean she is passing the information on to his parents. Not all families have a good relationship.

 

[Gargamel35]

Looks like Trine thinks, she owns Jonas or something. Not passing on information about health situation of someones son is horrible. This whole Trine vibe is just strange.

 

[Berniece]

Let's not pretend we know the ins and outs of that family. So let's also not make assumptions on who is in the wrong here.

 

[Rackham]

I'll just follow the standard 'wait & see'.

There's valid questions about the source (perhaps a 'sensationalist' paper & actual quotes could be misconstrued or whatever) but I think the current consensus I see around the net right now, i.e. that Vingegaard & his father are at odds or don't speak or something, is a bit... weird. It's like also totally made up in & of itself.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Ekstra Bladet is indeed usually looking for sensations, but if they have the quote directly from his father then it might be true. However it wouldn't be the first time he'd felt misunderstood or spoken out of his ass. Let's wait and see what happens.

Anyway as a cynical Dane, I personally hope he doesn't recover in time for the Tour, and that someone else will be able to challenge Pogačar.