Juan Ayuso discussion thread

[RedheadDane]

What a talent...he can climb , he can sprint, he can TT and he can descend like a demon

Given his age, he's probably not married.

 

[Gigs_98]

Just saying, if someone had that career trajectory 5 years ago we would all lose our minds. Will he become the next big thing? Hard to say with so many next big things already around. But I once used that logic to discredit Pogacar so I'm not gonna make the same mistake again.

 

[Red Rick]

Just saying, if someone had that career trajectory 5 years ago we would all lose our minds. Will he become the next big thing? Hard to say with so many next big things already around. But I once used that logic to discredit Pogacar so I'm not gonna make the same mistake again.

Yes, the old Bernal vs Evenepoel vs Pogacar thread.

I think the competition argument more compelling right now because Evenepoel and Pogacar have matured into such absolute world beaters and Vingegaard has appeared out of nowhere by 2020 narrative standards, and Roglic probably is rated higher compared to the rest of the field right now than he was in 2019 / early 2020.

I don't think you can deny Ayuso's 2022 season is behind Pogacars 2019 season, but then the question is how is that extra year Ayuso is younger worth.

 

[HelloDolly]

If he's really not so good with teammates that's gonna be fun with Pog.

Where the evidence for this ? and what exactly does it mean anyway ...Maybe he is not fooling around and is concentrating on his race and just wants to win...i

 

[Lequack]

And he gives interviews in English, which is a change.

 

[Netserk]

And he gives interviews in English, which is a change.

If I were a pro, I'd exclusively speak in Danish in public. So I don't hold it against any rider if he only speaks to journalists in his native tongue.

 

[Sciatic]

If I were a pro, I'd exclusively speak in Danish in public. So I don't hold it against any rider if he only speaks to journalists in his native tongue.

But would you still curse in English like some Danes and Dutch we know?

 

[tobydawq]

If I were a pro, I'd exclusively speak in Danish in public.

Why?

Are you the Danish Madiot?

 

[Netserk]

If journos would like to interview me, it should be on my terms. If that means only Danish speaking journos would want an interview, that'd be quite fine by me.

 

[Red Rick]

Undoubtedly your teams sponsors would be ecstatic about that

 

[tobydawq]

If journos would like to interview me, it should be on my terms. If that means only Danish speaking journos would want an interview, that'd be quite fine by me.

Sure... I'm certain many teams would support that view.

Also, your English doesn't really seem to be lacking...

 

[Netserk]

Undoubtedly your teams sponsors would be ecstatic about that

In this day and age, I doubt that they would care much about that. Are there any interviews of Vingegaard that have affected his image (or that of his sponsors) much?

 

[Rackham]

In this day and age, I doubt that they would care much about that. Are there any interviews of Vingegaard that have affected his image (or that of his sponsors) much?

Maybe...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6t3bcE_uSQ

 

[Valv.Piti]

Aight, so know everybody knows that California is no longer a race, does anybody know what the schedule might look like? Maybe you just ignore the joke that is May completely now, and focus on Suisse, San Sebastian, Burgos and Vuelta. That should be a pretty standard schedule with some good training in May and July without any racing and trying to catch up for everything he didn't do earlier.

 

[pastronef]

Aight, so know everybody knows that California is no longer a race, does anybody know what the schedule might look like? Maybe you just ignore the joke that is May completely now, and focus on Suisse, San Sebastian, Burgos and Vuelta. That should be a pretty standard schedule with some good training in May and July without any racing and trying to catch up for everything he didn't do earlier.

some of the Spanish race UAE will ride

Villafranca-Orditza on 25/7
Vuelta Castilla y Leon on 26-27/7
San Sebastian on 29/07
Circuito Getxo on 30/7
Vuelta Burgos 15-19/8

Vuelta starts on 26/8

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Aight, so know everybody knows that California is no longer a race, does anybody know what the schedule might look like? Maybe you just ignore the joke that is May completely now, and focus on Suisse, San Sebastian, Burgos and Vuelta. That should be a pretty standard schedule with some good training in May and July without any racing and trying to catch up for everything he didn't do earlier.

In his post-race interview, he said he'd only race again before Suisse if he started to feel good, but that it's unlikely due to his health issue.

 

[staubsauger]

Ayuso currently takes part in UAE's altitude training camp in the Sierra Nevada with their designated Tour squad. Did some rides in the snow on Sunday. Looks like a good training block after his late entree to the season.

Tour de Suisse should give some indications what to expect in his build-up towards the Vuelta a Espana. Unless there's a big surprise to come.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1660370227484405762

View: https://twitter.com/doctorinigo/status/1660370227484405762?s=20

 

[Offline]

Do he still have problems with injuries or is it just bad form?

 

[SafeBet]

Perhaps still finding his best legs after a long time with little racing?
A bit of inconsistency should be expected.

 

[Landeirovic]

In my opinion, there is still clear progress to be seen. In romandia he was 27th in the 1st mountain stage and lost 3:28. yesterday he was 3rd in a tough mountain stage and today he was 14th and lost "only" 49 seconds against Evenepoel

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

In my opinion, there is still clear progress to be seen. In romandia he was 27th in the 1st mountain stage and lost 3:28. yesterday he was 3rd in a tough mountain stage and today he was 14th and lost "only" 49 seconds against Evenepoel

Why are you using Evenepoel, who is clearly sub-par himself, as the reference? He lost 2 minutes to Gall, who is hardly Pogacar. In case of Skjelmose and Evenepoel, you could even say they had the luxury of letting Gall take time, so maybe they could have gone even faster. In Ayuso's case, that's not true because he couldn't afford to lose time to Skjelmose and Evenepoel.

It was a bad day, and clearly Ayuso is still finding his form. Let's see tomorrow. But even if that doesn't turn out great either, i have no doubt in his potential. What he showed last year in the Vuelta was too good to doubt him now.

 

[Lequack]

Well his goal is the Vuelta, so he has plenty of time to find form.

 

[staubsauger]

Why are you using Evenepoel, who is clearly sub-par himself, as the reference? He lost 2 minutes to Gall, who is hardly Pogacar. In case of Skjelmose and Evenepoel, you could even say they had the luxury of letting Gall take time, so maybe they could have gone even faster. In Ayuso's case, that's not true because he couldn't afford to lose time to Skjelmose and Evenepoel.

It was a bad day, and clearly Ayuso is still finding his form. Let's see tomorrow. But even if that doesn't turn out great either, i have no doubt in his potential. What he showed last year in the Vuelta was too good to doubt him now.

100%

If this is him being mediocre, it's actually even convincing. Others would be horse crap being mediocre. He still wins TT's at Romandie and probably gets a Top 5 at the Tour de Suisse.

It remains to be seen whether he's supreme at the Vuelta a Espana however.

If so, it's not hard to imagine that he's someone who's able to sustain an attack by gradually running out with a steady rhythm after creating a gap.

 

[Lequack]

Quite a different showing today. Great win.

 

[SafeBet]

Bad days can happen to anyone, especially after missing a good portion of winter training with an injury.
What he did today doesn't happen to anyone.
He is just special.