Juan Ayuso discussion thread

[topcat]

According to Velonews the Spanish Pogacar is currently 2nd

Valverde?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Very interested in his TT. I think Vlasov and possibly Dennis will be too strong, but i think he could finish on the GC podium, which would be a great result in any case. Maybe Plapp could be a threat for a podium spot if he can still TT like he could before he turned into a climbing domestique.

 

[Landeirovic]

19e valenciana
5e catalunya
4e romandia
Dauphine podium?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

19e valenciana
5e catalunya
4e romandia
Dauphine podium?

I doubt that very much, considering the opposition in Romandie (which was rather weak). I mean, if you finish behind Mäder and Geschke in Romandie, that doesn't bode well for a podium in Dauphiné. But i guess you were somewhat kidding.

Regardless, he did as good as one could reasonably expect. He seems very attentive and consistent as well.

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

19e valenciana
5e catalunya
4e romandia

Super good results. Even a rider like Contador would never have achieved such results aged 19.

Ayuso is now almost world class in the Elite pro peloton. Question is: how much will he still improve?

 

[Valv.Piti]

Reminds me of Contador's 2005 season which would mean he will be a world beater in 2024 according to my scientific calculations.

The only bad thing about all this is hes riding at the same team as Pogacar. Thats a real bummer.

 

[tobydawq]

Reminds me of Contador's 2005 season which would mean he will be a world beater in 2024 according to my scientific calculations.

The only bad thing about all this is hes riding at the same team as Pogacar. Thats a real bummer.

Well, if Almeida continues improving in GTs, it seems quite obvious that they cannot retain all three for their entire contract durations.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

People have been so busy with Roglic (who should obviously now retire immediately) in the tt that we didn't notice this kid's top 10. Can't wait to see him develop further.

 

[Top Climber]

No other 19-year-old rider has been Top-10 at Dauphine since Greg Lemond in 1981.

 

[ice&fire]

No other 19-year-old rider has been Top-10 at Dauphine since Greg Lemond in 1981.

Ayuso DNS today. Lemond's record still stands.

 

[Lequack]

Lemond works in mysterious ways.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Ayuso DNS today. Lemond's record still stands.

That's a shame. I wanted to see him in the mountains against strong rivals.

 

[Top Climber]

Juan Ayuso takes first Pro Win at Circuito de Getxo

https://twitter.com/x/status/1553759212932661248

View: https://twitter.com/sergioyustos_/status/1553759212932661248

 

[Escarabajo]

I thought he was bad yesterday. But good for him.

 

[SafeBet]

I thought he was bad yesterday. But good for him.

He probably saved some energy because he knew he'd be the designated leader today.

First professional win, there will be many more.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

He probably saved some energy because he knew he'd be the designated leader today.

First professional win, there will be many more.

Yeah, no sense to work for a weakling like Pogi, who during the next years Tour will play Roglic's role from the recent edition.

 

[Big Doopie]

He even looks like Pog when he rides. Weird.

He has yet to show any willingness to ever work for a teammate tho. So how long can he and Pog possibly coexist?

 

[Valv.Piti]

He even looks like Pog when he rides. Weird.

He has yet to show any willingness to ever work for a teammate tho. So how long can he and Pog possibly coexist?

He reminds me of Pogacar, they basically have the same characteristics by the looks of it.

There are lots and lots of races on the calendar, so I'd say around 2025 when Ayuso thinks he wants to race TdF depending on how previous GT's go. You could also just slot him in as procected rider/co-captain similar to Jumbo.

But honestly its way to difficult to say anything clever about at this point. The picture in a couple of years might be totally different

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I don't think you can plan that far ahead. I would only plan as far as TdF as domestique next year unless he kills it in the Vuelta and you want him to lead a GT next year.

He isn't scheduled for the Vuelta this month as far as i know.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Exactly, 2022 no GT, and 2023 Vuelta as the GT. From then its unknown, and Almeida is another unknown in that equation, but Ayuso gets to ride his own chance more often than not at the moment.

 

[groogster]

IMO UAE is doing well not rushing Ayuso into a GT this season. Besides he’s to much of a loose gun to work for Almeida anyways. Probably he doesn’t feel inferior to Almeida atm and he thinks he should not be working for him.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

IMO UAE is doing well not rushing Ayuso into a GT this season. Besides he’s to much of a loose gun to work for Almeida anyways. Probably he doesn’t feel inferior to Almeida atm and he thinks he should not be working for him.

I honestly don't follow him that closely, but how much of that is people making up BS for whatever reason as opposed to how it really is? Is he really that egocentric, arrogant and conceited that he already thinks he should be getting the same privileges as Almeida? Is this based on Catalunya? What else?

We've seen the same happen with Evenepoel, where every opinion, ambition, gesture etc was wilfully interpreted whatever way fit the narrative best. To the point where articles/translations would pull statements out of context.

I would be surprised if Ayuso actually thinks he has nothing more to prove compared to Almeida. Do we know the team didn't give him carte blanche specifically to see how far he could go?

 

[groogster]

I honestly don't follow him that closely, but how much of that is people making up BS for whatever reason as opposed to how it really is? Is he really that egocentric, arrogant and conceited that he already thinks he should be getting the same privileges as Almeida? Is this based on Catalunya? What else?

We've seen the same happen with Evenepoel, where every opinion, ambition, gesture etc was wilfully interpreted whatever way fit the narrative best. To the point where articles/translations would pull statements out of context.

I would be surprised if Ayuso actually thinks he has nothing more to prove compared to Almeida. Do we know the team didn't give him carte blanche specifically to see how far he could go?

It’s only my perception of Ayuso personality from what I’ve seen of him so far. I may be wrong and he could be a very good teammate when he has to work for someone else but for now I will maintain my judgment.

 

[Top Climber]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1555831253676572672

View: https://twitter.com/TeamEmiratesUAE/status/1555831253676572672

 

[Lequack]

That's a long contract.