Teams & Riders Julian Alaphilippe Discussion Thread

[RedheadDane]

Fun fact:

Julian Alaphilippe has won every one-day race he’s started this year except for the ones where Mathieu van der Poel was also riding, which were all won by Mathieu van der Poel

 

[Akuryo]

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Fun fact:

Julian Alaphilippe has won every one-day race he’s started this year except for the ones where Mathieu van der Poel was also riding, which were all won by Mathieu van der Poel

And Van der Poel got beaten by Kristoff and Bettiol. So obviously Bettiol/Kristoff > Alaphilippe.

 

[jmdirt]

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Fun fact:

Julian Alaphilippe has won every one-day race he’s started this year except for the ones where Mathieu van der Poel was also riding, which were all won by Mathieu van der Poel

Fun (likely) fact: Those two will have some good battles in the years to come!

 

[yetanothergreenworld]

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Fun fact:

Julian Alaphilippe has won every one-day race he’s started this year except for the ones where Mathieu van der Poel was also riding, which were all won by Mathieu van der Poel

And Van der Poel got beaten by Kristoff and Bettiol. So obviously Bettiol/Kristoff > Alaphilippe.

The math checks out!

Seriously, though, it will be interesting to see what MVP can do now that he's properly feared (if that's the word). Alaphilippe and Fuglsang got away fair and square at Amstel and presumably would have worked together longer if they'd known what they were dealing with. I doubt anyone will make the same mistake twice.

 

[Leinster]

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Fun fact:

Julian Alaphilippe has won every one-day race he’s started this year except for the ones where Mathieu van der Poel was also riding, which were all won by Mathieu van der Poel

And Van der Poel got beaten by Kristoff and Bettiol. So obviously Bettiol/Kristoff > Alaphilippe.

The math checks out!

Seriously, though, it will be interesting to see what MVP can do now that he's properly feared (if that's the word). Alaphilippe and Fuglsang got away fair and square at Amstel and presumably would have worked together longer if they'd known what they were dealing with. I doubt anyone will make the same mistake twice.

They thought they were dealing with a 20 second lead over Kwiatkowski with 2km to go. I doubt they’d do much, if anything, differently with the same information.

 

[RedheadDane]

It was a second podium in three days for Jakob Fuglsang (Astana), as the Dane once again battled the Julian Alaphilippe and failed to come out on top.

How do you know you've made it big? Someone tags a definitive article in front of your name!

Full article

 

[can3478]

News - Total Direct Energie has a lucrative proposal for Alaphilippe.

Meanwhile, DQT is flying Alaphilippe home via helicopter, maybe contract negotiation starts well?

 

[can3478]

Alaphilippe just announced that he will be staying at DQT for 2 more years.

 

[Bonimenier]

Maybe a bit surprising since he seemed to be the #1 priority for the French teams, but I think both Ala and DQT did good here.

 

[yaco]

A wise decision by Alaphalippe -Gets all the support he needs at DQS.

 

[Nirvana]

Yeah, right call from him, he choosed the glory (of wins) that Quick Step guarantees over the money. Maybe he could have still won a lot also in another team but it's always very risky leaving when you are in the right environment.

 

[IndianCyclist]

Maybe he didn't want to go where Terpstra was.

 

[Asero831]

I mean why only two years?

 

[Salvarani]

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I mean why only two years?

The sport is very short-sighted and based on results. Sponsors come and go.

1-2 years is pretty standard. I think it is very rare for someone to get a 3-4 year contract.

 

[Akuryo]

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I mean why only two years?

The sport is very short-sighted and based on results. Sponsors come and go.

1-2 years is pretty standard. I think it is very rare for someone to get a 3-4 year contract.

Rare indeed, but for the face of your franchise? They have not had that since Boonen, but Alaphilippe is shaping up to be that kind of rider. They had a lot of good riders in Uran, Dan and Tony Martin, Kwiatkowski, Terpstra, Stybar, etc. but not a "generational talent" so to speak. And you want to keep a guy like that as long as possible. They did give 3 year deals recently only to Cavendish, Jungels and Asgreen if I remember correctly. Thats pretty much it, so I agree that it happens rarely. Dont you think Alaphilippe is a rider where it would've made even more sense than with the other 3 riders?

 

[Bonimenier]

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I mean why only two years?

The sport is very short-sighted and based on results. Sponsors come and go.

1-2 years is pretty standard. I think it is very rare for someone to get a 3-4 year contract.

Rare indeed, but for the face of your franchise? They have not had that since Boonen, but Alaphilippe is shaping up to be that kind of rider. They had a lot of good riders in Uran, Dan and Tony Martin, Kwiatkowski, Terpstra, Stybar, etc. but not a "generational talent" so to speak. And you want to keep a guy like that as long as possible. They did give 3 year deals recently only to Cavendish, Jungels and Asgreen if I remember correctly. Thats pretty much it, so I agree that it happens rarely. Dont you think Alaphilippe is a rider where it would've made even more sense than with the other 3 riders?

Deceuninck will be the head sponsor till (at least) the end of 2021. I suppose this is the reason why they aren't signing any rider to a contract past that date.

 

[can3478]

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I mean why only two years?

The sport is very short-sighted and based on results. Sponsors come and go.

1-2 years is pretty standard. I think it is very rare for someone to get a 3-4 year contract.

Rare indeed, but for the face of your franchise? They have not had that since Boonen, but Alaphilippe is shaping up to be that kind of rider. They had a lot of good riders in Uran, Dan and Tony Martin, Kwiatkowski, Terpstra, Stybar, etc. but not a "generational talent" so to speak. And you want to keep a guy like that as long as possible. They did give 3 year deals recently only to Cavendish, Jungels and Asgreen if I remember correctly. Thats pretty much it, so I agree that it happens rarely. Dont you think Alaphilippe is a rider where it would've made even more sense than with the other 3 riders?

Maybe a 3-year deal is not possible because it involves more than just the team? Someone mentioned that, like Peter Sagan, maybe Specialized helped to pay part of Alaphilippe’s salary? After all, Lefereve did go to California where Specialized head office is, after that he presented the contract to Alaphilippe’s agent. Anyway, just speculation...

It’s kind of nice to see Alaphilippe is still leading UCI Individual Ranking, his team is leading UCI Team Ranking and his country, France also leads UCI Nation Ranking. It has been more than 10 weeks and will probably continue for at least another month.

 

[Charon]

Re: Julian Alaphilippe

INEOS had proposed a 5 millions contracts to Alaphilippe
https://video.eurosport.fr/cyclisme/video-bistrot-velo-ineos-a-propose-5-millions-deuros-a-alaphilippe._vid1208824/video.shtml (in french)

 

[jmdirt]

This dude is a one trick pony...that one trick is winning! Good ride today, I love successful breaks!

 

[Red Rick]

Re: Julian Alaphilippe

INEOS had proposed a 5 millions contracts to Alaphilippe
https://video.eurosport.fr/cyclisme/video-bistrot-velo-ineos-a-propose-5-millions-deuros-a-alaphilippe._vid1208824/video.shtml (in french)

Talk about **** you money.

Will be very hard to see QS keep Alaphilippe and Evenepoel long term, as the latter's value is skyrocketing to amounts I'm pretty sure only Ineos can pay

 

[Leinster]

Re: Julian Alaphilippe

INEOS had proposed a 5 millions contracts to Alaphilippe
https://video.eurosport.fr/cyclisme/video-bistrot-velo-ineos-a-propose-5-millions-deuros-a-alaphilippe._vid1208824/video.shtml (in french)

Talk about **** you money.

Will be very hard to see QS keep Alaphilippe and Evenepoel long term, as the latter's value is skyrocketing to amounts I'm pretty sure only Ineos can pay

Yes, but with Ineos money comes Ineos-style demands. Alaphilippe is a monument winner and TdF stage and jersey winner. Whilst he will still have his freedom in the Ardennes/week long races, will he really sacrifice his ambitions in July to help Bernal (or whoever) win Yellow?

 

[Red Rick]

Re: Julian Alaphilippe

INEOS had proposed a 5 millions contracts to Alaphilippe
https://video.eurosport.fr/cyclisme/video-bistrot-velo-ineos-a-propose-5-millions-deuros-a-alaphilippe._vid1208824/video.shtml (in french)

Talk about **** you money.

Will be very hard to see QS keep Alaphilippe and Evenepoel long term, as the latter's value is skyrocketing to amounts I'm pretty sure only Ineos can pay

Yes, but with Ineos money comes Ineos-style demands. Alaphilippe is a monument winner and TdF stage and jersey winner. Whilst he will still have his freedom in the Ardennes/week long races, will he really sacrifice his ambitions in July to help Bernal (or whoever) win Yellow?

Dont know what hes getting in his new QS contract but Id consider it. Problem is probably he might not make the Tour team at Ineos

 

[Leinster]

Exactly. As a French rider, and hilly classics specialist, it surely suits him to ride for a team that will allow him to go for stage wins and the minor jerseys. Ineos is not, and will never be, that team.

For that reason, Ineos will have to offer him a premium on top of what any other team would pay. Bora or Astana or UAE can’t pay what Brailsford will offer, but they can guarantee that he’ll be free to do what he wants in July (Bora may not let him go for green until Sagan retires).

 

[yaco]

Look at Kwiatkowski - The rider whose talents are wasted like no other in the peleton.

 

[Leinster]

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Look at Kwiatkowski - The rider whose talents are wasted like no other in the peleton.

Exactly who I thought of as I was writing about Alaf.