JV talks, sort of

[Ventoux Boar]

since you quoted Digger off Twitter, reveal to the clinic who you are on twitter or do you not believe in fairness?

If you dont believe in fairness than you are trolling the clinic.

Nonsense. Digger accused me of sending him abusive tweets. I know he's making this up. To prove it, I authorised him to post the offending tweets, thus revealing my ID.

Otherwise I prefer to operate under the same Ts&Cs as everybody else.

 

[Digger]

Nonsense. Digger accused me of sending him abusive tweets. I know he's making this up. To prove it, I authorised him to post the offending tweets, thus revealing my ID.

Otherwise I prefer to operate under the same Ts&Cs as everybody else.

Make it up....so when you replied to a post a while back from me, why did say you had deleted some of my post because it contained details about you...

anyway, man up.

 

[Benotti69]

Nonsense. Digger accused me of sending him abusive tweets. I know he's making this up. To prove it, I authorised him to post the offending tweets, thus revealing my ID.

Otherwise I prefer to operate under the same Ts&Cs as everybody else.

T&Cs say not to name others twitter names? So you broke the T&Cs!

If he posts your ID he gets a ban!

Why dont you post your twitter account to make it a level playing field?

 

[Ventoux Boar]

T&Cs say not to name others twitter names? So you broke the T&Cs!

If he posts your ID he gets a ban!

Why dont you post your twitter account to make it a level playing field?

Is all this to distract from Digger making false accusations? Or do you regularly harrass members about their identities?

 

[Benotti69]

Is all this to distract from Digger making false accusations? Or do you regularly harrass members about their identities?

You started this by posting Digger's twitter identity.

So when asked to make it fair you fail.

J****** V*** @J******V*** · Jun 8

Lewis Hamilton is a proper tit

You were saying about abuse!!!!

 

[gooner]

Is all this to distract from Digger making false accusations? Or do you regularly harrass members about their identities?

A bit of advice, ignore it.

Anyone who says he admires Bruyneel, Di Luca, Landis, Ricco, says doping isn't the problem just the hypocrisy, says Landis and Di Luca were talking sense when they spoke about legalising doping, admits he loves the entertainment that all this controversy brings, doesn't get an ounce of respect from me.

JV shouldn't engage with any of these people. He should stick to people who actually care for the sport.

 

[peloton]

You started this by posting Digger's twitter identity.

So when asked to make it fair you fail.



You were saying about abuse!!!!

What WB did was lame. As is anyone asking or posting posters twitter handles, tweets etc. here.

Resist the vortex mate.

 

[Parker]

Two points:

1. If you don't want people to mention what you said twitter, don't use basically the same username on twitter.

2. Almost all people on forums who fret about their anonymity are concerned about people finding out that they are a nobody.

 

[Ventoux Boar]

Two points:

1. If you don't want people to mention what you said twitter, don't use basically the same username on twitter.

2. Almost all people on forums who fret about their anonymity are concerned about people finding out that they are a nobody.

Here's another two

1. The person who introduced Digger's twitter into the thread was Digger. I helped him with some context.

2. The only person to ever refer to my twitter is ... Digger.

 

[peloton]

Two points:

1. If you don't want people to mention what you said twitter, don't use basically the same username on twitter.

2. Almost all people on forums who fret about their anonymity are concerned about people finding out that they are a nobody.

One point, read the forum rules. Shouldn't be too hard to understand.

 

[Afrank]

Get back to the topic of Vaughters guys. Individual posters twitter accounts and what they write on them has nothing to do with the topic.

 

[JV1973]

This - well said.

Example...I asked him why he signed Thomas Dekker - I knew the answer - he didn't want to reply honestly - so he said I signed him for his amazing hair. Joke...people join in...tell him not to engage with these types...then he replies to them, thanks them for their support....and the question is

Lets start with this Karol,

First, you do not know why I signed TD. You think you do. But you don't. But yet, you are allowed to spread that lie, without anyone holding you accountable....

So, lets answer it: I signed Thomas because I wanted to give him a second shot. Period. No sponsor was involved. And if there was, please give me their phone number.

Why do I turn to humor? Because I don't take you or most on this forum who are literally obsessed with picking apart people they don't know on forums/twitter. How could I take all of the lies, innuendo, misinformation, etc that you spread seriously? And when you get scared, you start deleting tweets, like the small, scared human you are. Just like the rest of the anonymous people here who are too afraid to put their name by their opinion. So, I change the topic. Not because what you're saying is getting too hot, but out of quite intentional disrespect to you.


But please, rant on and on and on and on and on.....


It's what you have in your life. I don't want to take it away.


JV.


Btw - Tell Floyd he left his pedals over at my house.

 

[Granville57]

Holy conspiracy, Batman!

What just happened to JV's post?




(Although I think I know the answer )

JV, if you're still signed in (and you appear to be) let's chat. At this late hour, The Clinic mostly sleeps, so there should be few, if any, distractions. (Just keep the stuff about panniers out of the discussion ).

 

[purcell]

Am I seeing things or did that post from JV that was here get deleted in the last couple of minutes??

 

[Granville57]

He either had second thoughts, or it was immediately deleted by a mod for violating what is pretty much forum rule #1.

Or a bit of both...

 

[Granville57]

Anyhoo...


JV, care to weigh-in on inhaler-gate?

Back in 2010, Taylor Phinney alluded to inhalers as perhaps being dodgy. What say you?

 

[JV1973]

Anyhoo...


JV, care to weigh-in on inhaler-gate?

Back in 2010, Taylor Phinney alluded to inhalers as perhaps being dodgy. What say you?

Just email me. My first name @ my company's name.com

Offer is open to anyone.

Me discussing in this forum basically turns into a bunch of bullies punching the nerd on the playground. Just like twitter.

I deleted my post because it's useless.

JV.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

He either had second thoughts, or it was immediately deleted by a mod for violating what is pretty much forum rule #1.

Or a bit of both...

He posted a picture of Hitler cat?

 

[Granville57]

He posted a picture of Hitler cat?

Worse, actually. Much worse. He posted a pic of a team bonding exercise...in a stream...in the woods.

(At least I think it was his team. One of the boys did look a bit like Ryder, before the beard.)

 

[Ventoux Boar]

Get back to the topic of Vaughters guys. Individual posters twitter accounts and what they write on them has nothing to do with the topic.

What are you doing about the lies spread by Digger about me?

 

[Benotti69]

Just email me. My first name @ my company's name.com

Offer is open to anyone.

Wait for the spam.......

Me discussing in this forum basically turns into a bunch of bullies punching the nerd on the playground. Just like twitter.

I deleted my post because it's useless.

JV.

You do get asked pretty straight forward questions and yet you fail to provide straight forward answers. Same on twitter.

You are the guy who sells 'cleanER' cycling without backing it up.

You are the guy telling fans that the new generation don't dope because it is not cool.

You are the guy who told us that machine calibration was the problem when Wiggins and Hesjedal blood values rose in the 3rd week of GTs.

Your credibilty when it comes to the sport is IMO very low, along with most in the sport.

For a guy who boasted about his MBA, its seems when the heat is on he runs off crying, citing bullying. Plenty in the sport have been bullied out of it. Have not seen you sticking up for those guys.

 

[sniper]

Me discussing in this forum basically turns into a bunch of bullies punching the nerd on the playground. Just like twitter.

poor jv.

I would like to know where he got that the average top 20 times are slower or if he just pulled that out of his ***.

good question

 

[hrotha]

Even if the top 20 guys thing is substantiated, first of all, it's moving the goalposts, and second, at best that would paint a picture of a cleaner peloton utterly dominated by a few heavy doping freaks/cadres. Combine that with the decreasing amount of tests and what you get is the famous window of opportunity closing real fast, as the risk-to-reward ratio heavily continues to favour dopers, more so than ~3 years ago.

 

[the sceptic]

Just email me. My first name @ my company's name.com

Offer is open to anyone.

Me discussing in this forum basically turns into a bunch of bullies punching the nerd on the playground. Just like twitter.

I deleted my post because it's useless.

JV.

When you used to say that speeds going down was an indication that the peloton is cleaning up, shouldnt speeds going up again be cause for concern?

Im talking about individual riders here..

Shouldnt you be a bit ****ed off that some "clean" riders can climb faster than Armstrong, when your own garmin boys are obviously nowhere close to doing that?

 

[Black Betsy]

Even if the top 20 guys thing is substantiated, first of all, it's moving the goalposts, and second, at best that would paint a picture of a cleaner peloton utterly dominated by a few heavy doping freaks/cadres. Combine that with the decreasing amount of tests and what you get is the famous window of opportunity closing real fast, as the risk-to-reward ratio heavily continues to favour dopers, more so than ~3 years ago.

Even if basic assumption is true (of course arguable), in cases like this isn't the median the basic descriptive statistics tool, and not the average which can be easily thrown out by some extreme values?

I'm hoping that sir JV never read this magnum opus: