Kimmage unleashes hell, counter-sues Verbruggen & McQuaid

[Benotti69]

none of that has anything to do with the basic principle of when you get caught doing something, you keep your mouth shut and do your time. a real man deals with the consequences of his decisions.
and just because Landis is charming you want to forgive him for being a rat? no way, .............r

You prefer a dirty sport where cheats and dopers are treated with respect where those who feel they have done wrong should keep quiet instead of trying to change the cheating and doping?

That's very very sad and reflects more about you than it does Landis.

 

[noddy69]

none of that has anything to do with the basic principle of when you get caught doing something, you keep your mouth shut and do your time. a real man deals with the consequences of his decisions.
and just because Landis is charming you want to forgive him for being a rat? no way, POS forever

The code of criminals. A morally bankrupt code that is used by those who have wronged in some way to hide their acts. The idea that it is somehow a trait one should aspire to is just what is desired by those committing the worst crimes.
The fact that there are those who see it as it is, a crock of s**t is good for society. Those who cant see that I feel sorry for.

 

[Grandillusion]

none of that has anything to do with the basic principle of when you get caught doing something, you keep your mouth shut and do your time. a real man deals with the consequences of his decisions.
and just because Landis is charming you want to forgive him for being a rat? no way, POS forever

I didn't think the interview with Kimmage gave any impression that Landis was particularly "charming" as you put it. Just a pretty harrowing and ultimately honest account by a man who'd bit by bit allowed himself to be morally compromised, and the psychological baggage and eventual awful consequences that brought.
As others have pointed out, where does your horrible "code of thieves" morality get anybody?

 

[SpeedWay]

none of that has anything to do with the basic principle of when you get caught doing something, you keep your mouth shut and do your time. a real man deals with the consequences of his decisions.
and just because Landis is charming you want to forgive him for being a rat? no way, POS forever

You've got to remember you're dealing with choir boys in here - not men in the real world. They've thrown their first stone a long time ago and are mocking you because you haven't.

 

[Grandillusion]

You've got to remember you're dealing with choir boys in here - not men in the real world. They've thrown their first stone a long time ago and are mocking you because you haven't.

What a strange post! By implication you'd be thinking Greg LeMond was a "choirboy" too, or Paul Kimmage, Walsh, Adreau, or any others trying to shine a light into dirty corners? None of them real men in the real world?

No-ones mocking, just genuinely surprised at such gruesome rationalisation.

 

[purcell]

I had time on a series of planes yesterday to re-read The Rough Ride.

Ithas been years since I list read it and was quite surprised yesterday that I had forgotten what a complete piece of rubbish David Millar was, and is.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

none of that has anything to do with the basic principle of when you get caught doing something, you keep your mouth shut and do your time. a real man deals with the consequences of his decisions.
and just because Landis is charming you want to forgive him for being a rat? no way, POS forever

This is probably the worst post I've read on the forum.

What's this old fashioned nonsense about 'snitching' Landis is one of the few to have completely and wholeheartedly confessed and revealed his sins, none of this 2006 nonsense.

 

[thirteen]

Kimmage's lawyer after blood: Skins International Trading Ag vs. Union Cycliste Internationale, Patrick McQpaid and Henricus Verbruggen

allez Cedric!

 

[peterst6906]

Kimmage's lawyer after blood: Skins International Trading Ag vs. Union Cycliste Internationale, Patrick McQpaid and Henricus Verbruggen

allez Cedric!

Ooh, $2000000+ damages claim. Will be good to watch but I wonder where it will end up.

I suspect there is more to this than a simple claim for damage.

 

[purcell]

Kimmage's lawyer after blood: Skins International Trading Ag vs. Union Cycliste Internationale, Patrick McQpaid and Henricus Verbruggen

allez Cedric!

Well isn't that an interesting little turn of events?

 

[Cloxxki]

Well isn't that an interesting little turn of events?

It's like a bank run. You don't want to be near the back of this waaier. Skins realizes wheelsucking will not win this prize.

 

[badboygolf16v]

Kimmage's lawyer after blood: Skins International Trading Ag vs. Union Cycliste Internationale, Patrick McQpaid and Henricus Verbruggen

allez Cedric!

In the words of Cav and Wiggo, Cedric is NAIVE. What a bull**** claim. And I hate the UCI.

 

[peterh]

Kimmage's lawyer after blood: Skins International Trading Ag vs. Union Cycliste Internationale, Patrick McQpaid and Henricus Verbruggen

allez Cedric!

Pitbull lawyer go Maximus!

 

[thehog]

Just like the comeback was probably the stupidest thing Armstrong ever did. It was the beginning of the end.

As was suing Kimmidge. Along with the Irish plumber gag from Armstrong.

Now we'll raise your frivolous law suit with our own.

At some point Pat or Hein under oath may have to explain the exact nature of the Armstrong relationship. That will become a little sticky with Saugy and ultimately how Hog choses to defend himself with USADA.

There are parallels with the SCA here. Which I'll go into at a later date.

 

[sniper]

Kimmage's lawyer after blood: Skins International Trading Ag vs. Union Cycliste Internationale, Patrick McQpaid and Henricus Verbruggen

allez Cedric!

Well I'll be damned. L-o-v-e-l-y.

 

[Benotti69]

Will any other sponsors who have long shackled their carts to donkeys on dope join them.

Hardly any bike manufacturers will be hypocritical enough or will they?

 

[Animal]

a cry baby tattletale rat that stole from cycling fans

PERFECT description of your mancrush, LA. In every detail.

He's ****ing now about having to face up to what he's done. Well F**K him!

 

[jackwolf]

In the words of Cav and Wiggo, Cedric is NAIVE. What a bull**** claim. And I hate the UCI.

Ha ha, that's funny. Thickest head in the peloton calling somebody naive.

 

[thirteen]

good article with background from the suit: Skins launches legal claim against UCI chiefs for two million US dollars

in the meanwhile, i'm searching for the article written by Kimmage for today's Irish Independent but it doesn't seem to be up yet. if anybody sees it first, please post!

a reminder of where to donate.

will you be the one to push it over $90,000?

 

[summerhill]

good article with background from the suit: Skins launches legal claim against UCI chiefs for two million US dollars

in the meanwhile, i'm searching for the article written by Kimmage for today's Irish Independent but it doesn't seem to be up yet. if anybody sees it first, please post!

a reminder of where to donate.

will you be the one to push it over $90,000?

Here it is..
Cycling: Race of truth keeps rolling

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cycling-race-of-truth-keeps-rolling-3281852.html

 

[thehog]

Will any other sponsors who have long shackled their carts to donkeys on dope join them.

Hardly any bike manufacturers will be hypocritical enough or will they?

The interesting part of the suit is that Skins are requesting 2m back due to the fact the McQuaid and Hein had misrepresented the contract that Skins signed. The contract for sponsorship was signed under the condition that doping and the sport was conducted in a fair and honest manner.

Now McQuaid (UCI) are compelled by the first letter to respond by either paying back the money or sending a response in return respectfully saying no. The interesting part is context. Its now in a "legal" context. If a letter is returned its deemed by the courts as "legal" and thus should truthful and honest. It is not a media statement.

Then Kimmidge has his own suit which also applies pressure. They have McQuaid (UCI) in the crosshairs.

As we know McQuaid knows full well of the extent of Armstrong's doping and what other teams were/are doing - he even applied pressure to certain people not to talk. If this wasn't fully represented to Skins during the contract signing then they have a right to their money back and they have a very good case. They cannot ignore the letter. McQuaid will have to state on "public record" that he was unaware of the doping.

Its a good play by Kimmidge/Skins.

UCI are caught here. I'm interested to see the UCI's next move. They have to tread very carefully.

(I say they'll pay the 2m back)

 

[thirteen]

Here it is..
Cycling: Race of truth keeps rolling

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cycling-race-of-truth-keeps-rolling-3281852.html

you are a star! thank you!

 

[python]

out of curiosity, does anyone know the skins company annual sales/revenue or anything about their finances ?

i could not find much other than that they are well positioned internationally, enjoy healthy markets and were involved in some controversial advertising.

the fact that they are headquartered in switzerland, just like the uci, suggests that the legal action will likely be taking place in swiss courts.

 

[Benotti69]

out of curiosity, does anyone know the skins company annual sales/revenue or anything about their finances ?

i could not find much other than that they are well positioned internationally, enjoy healthy markets and were involved in some controversial advertising.

the fact that they are headquartered in switzerland, just like the uci, suggests that the legal action will likely be taking place in swiss courts.

Probably the last thing any sporting federation in Switzerland would want, to be sued by a local

 

[cathulu]

This is why not just doing but being seen to do the right thing is important. UCI under the corrupt duo exposed themselves to this by not even appearing to do the right thing lol. Things are getting very interesting...