Arnout said:Even Race Radio, someone held in extremely high regard here, came here a month or so ago saying that currently doping is much less common than some of the clinic think.
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Arnout said:Even Race Radio, someone held in extremely high regard here, came here a month or so ago saying that currently doping is much less common than some of the clinic think.
wannab said:Did Armstrong ever publicly sign something like that together with colleague riders and calling dopers stupid f*cks? It has more meaning that "What am i on?" which was far easier than something like this.
So yes, you could be overly cynic about it and not see the value of it.
Also, the consequences aren't as dramatic as you point, but they're there non te less. If you take a standpoint like that and get caught eventually you'll fall much harder from grace, Armstrong is exactly the example of that.
Mr.38% said:Tony is sqeaky clean. Guaranteed from someone who performance-tested him for many years. Like John, he is police officer. Any doping offense would probably not just cost them their career but also their pension provisions.
It's more like "*******" really. Perhaps "malicious *******" covers it best.Kittel is calling Armstrong a dumbass ("dummes Schwein")
Benito said:I've just looked on facebook, 30,421 people like Jan Ullrich. Talk about unforgiving.
Gregory said:Slamming Armstong now means almost nothing. His interview with Oprah, was an implicit permission for other cyclists from the Boss himself: "Don't hesitate to call me names and denigrate me". But today, hitting on Armstong by the cyclists may be the defense of Omerta just the same, as defending him couple of months ago.
What matters is reavealing new facts: exposing fellow dopers, doctors and managers.
skippy said:Sorry folks , doubt they know that you lot exist , let alone worry about YOUR Opinions !
Never look at those with the most to lose as being the most likely to behave honestly. Human beings just don't act that way.Mr.38% said:Tony is sqeaky clean. Guaranteed from someone who performance-tested him for many years. Like John, he is police officer. Any doping offense would probably not just cost them their career but also their pension provisions.
mattghg said:True, but Kittel was already slamming Armstrong and his defenders before the Oprah interview, when Lance's lawyers were still saying that the USADA reasoned decision was a 'one-sided hatchet job'.
https://twitter.com/marcelkittel/status/261435018256216064
Red Rick said:The same Kittel who had his exposed to UV light?
Red Rick said:The same Kittel who had his exposed to UV light?
Arnout said:Even Race Radio, someone held in extremely high regard here, came here a month or so ago saying that currently doping is much less common than some of the clinic think.
Good point. Armstrong is yesteryear's Ricco. It's OK to slam him, all of the boys' club does it.Gregory said:Slamming Armstong now means almost nothing. His interview with Oprah, was an implicit permission for other cyclists from the Boss himself: "Don't hesitate to call me names and denigrate me". But today, hitting on Armstong by the cyclists may be the defense of Omerta just the same, as defending him couple of months ago.
What matters is reavealing new facts: exposing fellow dopers, doctors and managers.
mattghg said:Kittel says (in the video) that he sometimes has suspicions about other riders, but nothing definite (and he won't say who). In the article he is quoted as saying that he would definitely report someone if he saw them doping 'with my own eyes'.
Is this omerta weakening or more of the same?
Carols said:Isn't he one of the Black Light brigade? Has blood removed, treated with light and then reinfused? Sounds like the pot calling the kettle Black to me!
GJB123 said:Are you really that dumb or I am just that smart?
the more egregious when they have all been in the tent and touted the armstrong talking points.Cloxxki said:Good point. Armstrong is yesteryear's Ricco. It's OK to slam him, all of the boys' club does it.
blackcat said:Why do all the Brits crack the sads and throw their bikes? Dont they have cornflakes in the UK?
Gregory said:I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. This puts Kittel in better light in my eyes
To be fair, WADA prohibited this in 2011, UCI later, Kittel got treatment in 2008.Dear Wiggo said:Agreed.
Anyone using a needle for anything other than traditional medicine delivery should kinda STFU about other people's dubiousness imo.
Fearless Greg Lemond said:To be fair, WADA prohibited this in 2011, UCI later, Kittel got treatment in 2008.
Not to speak of the UV/OZON - therapy hoax