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Clorox

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Makes me wish I had Showtime so I could see this 60-minutes sports show tomorrow night. I bet Pelley is loving this after all the trouble Lance and co. gave CBS after the 60 minutes segment about Tyler. Looks like they may be pushing the "why did the Justice Dept. drop the case" angle.
 
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This is a long time Verburggen strategy. Not only does it potentially give influence but it corrupts your adversary. He tries to get you in a compromising position to later use to his advantage
 
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Wow! - agree with Hoggie UCI looks even worse. Was thinking though maybe this is why they finally decided to leave him under the bus.
I.e they found out that LA had offered USADA $250,000 and had given UCI only $100,000 Pat & Heine must be well pi$$ed.
 
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Race Radio said:
This is a long time Verburggen strategy. Not only does it potentially give influence but it corrupts your adversary. He tries to get you in a compromising position to later use to his advantage
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Agreed LA and co had wealth of experience at this over the years - just copied the blueprint from the Soprano's
 
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The first question I would have is why was this not revealed before now.

Surely athletes making donations to anti-doping authorities should be named and shamed. This would have looked bad for Lance if it had been revealed in 2004.
 
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pmcg76 said:
The first question I would have is why was this not revealed before now.

Surely athletes making donations to anti-doping authorities should be named and shamed. This would have looked bad for Lance if it had been revealed in 2004.
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Maybe there's no paper trail. If not and Tygart had revealed it LA and lawyers would have done what they did to everyone else, denounced them as liars and damaged USADA's reputation therefore hindering any future action it might take.
If USADA took the bribe - they were compromised, if they refuse it, reveal it but have no proof - it can be rebuked and any future USADA investigation can be pointed to as witch hunt (with even more creedance) or what they did refuse it and not reveal it - in which case LA's not lost anything. Classic chess move.
 
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Tom375 said:
Maybe there's no paper trail. If not and Tygart had revealed it LA and lawyers would have done what they did to everyone else, denounced them as liars and damaged USADA's reputation therefore hindering any future action it might take.
If USADA took the bribe - they were compromised, if they refuse it, reveal it but have no proof - it can be rebuked and any future USADA investigation can be pointed to as witch hunt (with even more creedance) or what they did refuse it and not reveal it - in which case LA's not lost anything. Classic chess move.
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Certainly some lesser intermediary made the offer to provide the future deniability if it occurred. Travis would need some "trail" to back up the statement or he shouldn't be saying this. 60 Minutes wouldn't report on it if that weren't the case so it'll be interesting to see who made the offer. Cobbleddy-gookstoner?
 
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Certainly some lesser intermediary made the offer to provide the future deniability if it occurred. Travis would need some "trail" to back up the statement or he shouldn't be saying this. 60 Minutes wouldn't report on it if that weren't the case so it'll be interesting to see who made the offer. Cobbleddy-gookstoner?
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That’s a lot of money for an organization which is unconstitutional and runs kangaroos courts.
 
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thehog said:
That’s a lot of money for an organization which is unconstitutional and runs kangaroos courts.
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It would have kept them "hoppy" if they could've kept it....
sorry
 
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Oldman said:
Certainly some lesser intermediary made the offer to provide the future deniability if it occurred. Travis would need some "trail" to back up the statement or he shouldn't be saying this. 60 Minutes wouldn't report on it if that weren't the case so it'll be interesting to see who made the offer. Cobbleddy-gookstoner?
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I see where your coming from with this but even if he hasn't got a trail (say it was just a phone call) Its TT's word against LA's - At this stage who are you going to believe? I don't think LA will be suing for defamation its not like he hasn't got previous for offering large sums of cash to supposedly independent governing bodies.

Either way i suppose whatever evidence TT has that this happened he didn't feel it was strong enough in 2004 to reveal this offer had been received, that says a lot about the way LA and cohorts operated and if they could intimidate organisations such as USADA just imagine what it felt like to the Betsy Andreu's & Emma O'Neill's that got in the way. Fly swotting!
 
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"No truth to that story," Tim Herman said to USA TODAY Sports Tuesday. "First Lance heard of it was today. He never made any such contribution or suggestion."

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And no one from the Armstrong camp has been anything but truthful, unlike Tygart's band of lying sacks of shyte.
 
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