Lance says "Just Relax" - 10-4, Roger that Lance.

[straydog]

True i did retweet it, my bad, but i didn't mean it with child abuse, more the 18-19 range.

Ok Scott, fair enough and I give you props for coming here and addressing what I said. I just think that some of what passed was open to possible misinterpretation.

Listen, as I said at the start of this post, I actually think the T shirts are funny, despite my rampant fanboyism, and I certainly understand why you reacted on twitter.

As to the 18-19 range, if it's one of the Olsens? who wouldn't?

 

[buckwheat]

As to the 18-19 range, if it's one of the Olsens? who wouldn't?

I'm not crazy about chicks with eating disorders, you like 'em?

 

[scribe]

I'd pass on the olsens as well.

 

[straydog]

I'd pass on the olsens as well.

lol....actually just googled a picture of them....hmmm....please feel free to re post this:

I WAS WRONG!

 

[blackcat]

don't squeal like a pig.

http://twitpic.com/31y3kb

Nice Tee!!

RT @iPodista: A useful summary of the history and evidence of the whole Lance does / does not use drugs argument http://bit.ly/7MA2Ro #l ... 8:38 AM Oct 30th
RT @Velocentric: Want your own "Lance Says Relax" shirt? http://twitpic.com/31y3kb Buy here! http://smij.in/4ds profits to Macmillan Can ... 6:51 PM Oct 29th
RT @Velocentric: Somebody had to do it, and it may as well be us. @lancearmstrong, can we see you in one at #TDU? http://twitpic.com/31y3kb 11:51 AM Oct 29th

 

[TexPat]

Oh, goodness.

 

[Digger]

Straydog, Lance was the one who started it, when he tweeted 'just relax' to Greg's daughter, someone he doesn't know.

 

[thehog]

Straydog, Lance was the one who started it, when he tweeted 'just relax' to Greg's daughter, someone he doesn't know.

Lance actually started it long before. Around the time he liked to sleaze on younger woman and other peoples parters.

Stalking LeMonds daughter is super scary. He may hate Greg but have to draw a line at the kids.

Very worrying.

 

[jimmypop]

Bravo-- very clever indeed. Unfortunately it had nothing to do with the question. I really am curious however-- so can you just take a stab at it? A rough estimate

What you're doing is cute, but it's transparent. The "haters" likely spend less time thinking about Armstrong than the fanboys, because we've accepted reality and don't feel compelled to justify the actions of a sportsman day after day. Let's be clear: there's no one visiting forums like these who believes Armstrong was PED-free. We can argue about the degree and the ramifications, but it's a fact that he violated the rules of the sport he chose to complete in. Some say that he violated them so egregiously, beginning in a "lull" year for doping, that he helped re-introduce systematic doping into professional cycling. A focused innovator, for certain, he pushed the days of amateur doping away and opted for an exclusive, carefully controlled PED regimen. Did he still train and pedal a bike like the rest of them? Sure. But now there are serious doubts as to whether or not he'd have notched one TdF win without cheating.

Yes, it's important to include Armstrong in any discussion on contemporary doping in sport, let alone cycling. I'm sorry if you're a fan, but there's really not any reason to believe that he didn't dope. There's also little argument that his doping was anything but detrimental to the sport. Rationalizations for his doping are sometimes clever and fun to read, but entertaining those rationalizations in a serious manner is to drown in logical fallacies.

Post-1998, the sport had an opportunity to clean up. Instead, Armstrong took advantage of the first relative clean period in cycling in a decade to begin a world-class PED program.

I'll leave out the business of intimidation he and his business partners practiced, or the sorry mess he's made of his personal life. But I won't ever forget how he leveraged a "charity" for his own personal gain. Disingenuous doesn't begin to describe his intents with the LAF, and if you think otherwise then you've got some research to do. Speaking of research: shouldn't LAF be funding actual research?

 

[thehog]

Bravo-- very clever indeed. Unfortunately it had nothing to do with the question. I really am curious however-- so can you just take a stab at it? A rough estimate

Its ok - I understand why you attack me. Many do. When they cannot construct their own arguments or discuss the points at hand they go after the person. Its fairly simple lunch time psychology. Its ok though. Its doesn’t worry me. Although you may want to look into yourself and see why you feel the need to criticise others before correcting your own faults. None the less if you need a hand or for me to recommend some therapists in your area let me know. I’d be pleased to help. Everyone needs a little corrective therapy now and then or just someone to who listens to them. Good luck and let me know if you need a hand.

Cheers theHog.

 

[Cobblestoned]

What you're doing is cute, but it's transparent. The "haters" likely spend less time thinking about Armstrong than the fanboys, because we've accepted reality and don't feel compelled to justify the actions of a sportsman day after day. Let's be clear: there's no one visiting forums like these who believes Armstrong was PED-free. We can argue about the degree and the ramifications, but it's a fact that he violated the rules of the sport he chose to complete in. Some say that he violated them so egregiously, beginning in a "lull" year for doping, that he helped re-introduce systematic doping into professional cycling. A focused innovator, for certain, he pushed the days of amateur doping away and opted for an exclusive, carefully controlled PED regimen. Did he still train and pedal a bike like the rest of them? Sure. But now there are serious doubts as to whether or not he'd have notched one TdF win without cheating.

Yes, it's important to include Armstrong in any discussion on contemporary doping in sport, let alone cycling. I'm sorry if you're a fan, but there's really not any reason to believe that he didn't dope. There's also little argument that his doping was anything but detrimental to the sport. Rationalizations for his doping are sometimes clever and fun to read, but entertaining those rationalizations in a serious manner is to drown in logical fallacies.

Post-1998, the sport had an opportunity to clean up. Instead, Armstrong took advantage of the first relative clean period in cycling in a decade to begin a world-class PED program.

I'll leave out the business of intimidation he and his business partners practiced, or the sorry mess he's made of his personal life. But I won't ever forget how he leveraged a "charity" for his own personal gain. Disingenuous doesn't begin to describe his intents with the LAF, and if you think otherwise then you've got some research to do. Speaking of research: shouldn't LAF be funding actual research?

That one really made me lol.

There are many haters here who can't even write a single post without naming Armstrong or make a reference to Armstrong.
You could open a new thread about tire pressure and they would claim that Lance's tire pressure was too high or low, or that he used forbidden secret air.
Or they perhaps tell us that Lance can't even pump up a tire by himself, because some neighbour, who heard that from someone, told them so in their dreams.
Total obsession.
It's the haters that feel the need to keep going on opening threads for every single blupppp, control every single word and move of his Lanceness, and never get tired or bored. I see another thread right now.
But good that there is a note about Contador-threads and 2 fixed hidden Armstrongthreads ! Says it all.
Well appreciated.

 

[auscyclefan94]

That one really made me lol.

There are many haters here who can't even write a single post without naming Armstrong or make a reference to Armstrong.
You could open a new thread about tire pressure and they would claim that Lance's tire pressure was too high or low, or that he used forbidden secret air.
Or they perhaps tell us that Lance can't even pump up a tire by himself, because some neighbour, who heard that from someone, told them so in their dreams.
Total obsession.
It's the haters that feel the need to keep going on opening threads for every single blupppp, control every single word and move of his Lanceness, and never get tired or bored. I see another thread right now.
But good that there is a note about Contador-threads and 2 fixed hidden Armstrongthreads ! Says it all.
Well appreciated.

Stupid comment

 

[Cobblestoned]

Stupid comment

So you might like it !

You want to know what really is stupid ?
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=10956

 

[Altitude]

Its ok - I understand why you attack me. Many do. When they cannot construct their own arguments or discuss the points at hand they go after the person. Its fairly simple lunch time psychology. Its ok though. Its doesn’t worry me. Although you may want to look into yourself and see why you feel the need to criticise others before correcting your own faults. None the less if you need a hand or for me to recommend some therapists in your area let me know. I’d be pleased to help. Everyone needs a little corrective therapy now and then or just someone to who listens to them. Good luck and let me know if you need a hand.

Cheers theHog.

Somehow it doesn't surprise me that you know so many therapists.

Anyhow are you going to answer the question or not?

 

[Barrus]

All of you stop the personal attacks

 

[Altitude]

What you're doing is cute, but it's transparent. The "haters" likely spend less time thinking about Armstrong than the fanboys, because we've accepted reality and don't feel compelled to justify the actions of a sportsman day after day. Let's be clear: there's no one visiting forums like these who believes Armstrong was PED-free. We can argue about the degree and the ramifications, but it's a fact that he violated the rules of the sport he chose to complete in. Some say that he violated them so egregiously, beginning in a "lull" year for doping, that he helped re-introduce systematic doping into professional cycling. A focused innovator, for certain, he pushed the days of amateur doping away and opted for an exclusive, carefully controlled PED regimen. Did he still train and pedal a bike like the rest of them? Sure. But now there are serious doubts as to whether or not he'd have notched one TdF win without cheating.

Yes, it's important to include Armstrong in any discussion on contemporary doping in sport, let alone cycling. I'm sorry if you're a fan, but there's really not any reason to believe that he didn't dope. There's also little argument that his doping was anything but detrimental to the sport. Rationalizations for his doping are sometimes clever and fun to read, but entertaining those rationalizations in a serious manner is to drown in logical fallacies.

Post-1998, the sport had an opportunity to clean up. Instead, Armstrong took advantage of the first relative clean period in cycling in a decade to begin a world-class PED program.

I'll leave out the business of intimidation he and his business partners practiced, or the sorry mess he's made of his personal life. But I won't ever forget how he leveraged a "charity" for his own personal gain. Disingenuous doesn't begin to describe his intents with the LAF, and if you think otherwise then you've got some research to do. Speaking of research: shouldn't LAF be funding actual research?

That's all very well, but what does any of that have to do with how much of the TheSwine's day is consumed by thoughts of Lance Armstrong?

 

[thehog]

Somehow it doesn't surprise me that you know so many therapists.

Anyhow are you going to answer the question or not?

Therapy is very important – its doesn’t mean you’re crazy or stupid if you see one. Its shouldn’t be considered only for those who are mentally unstable. Floyd’s states his epiphany was after he saw his therapist and helped him gain the strength to finally come clean. I do know a lot of therapist thank-you. I take that as a compliment. But I know because you joke about it you’re showing naivety in this area and that you may have some anger management issues you might want to address/resolve? A therapist can help you here. Please don’t think there is a stigma in talking about your problems and seeing a counsellor. You have friends.

Now that we’ve established the reasons behind you’re personal attacks on me is about you rather than what I’m saying could you repeat your question so I could respond?

Or perhaps better you ignore this post and move on? Up to you. But it might be better to not embarrass yourself more than you already have – I’m worried it could have an impact on your healing process.

Thanks again.

 

[Altitude]

Therapy is very important – its doesn’t mean you’re crazy or stupid if you see one. Its shouldn’t be considered only for those who are mentally unstable. Floyd’s states his epiphany was after he saw his therapist and helped him gain the strength to finally come clean. I do know a lot of therapist thank-you. I take that as a compliment. But I know because you joke about it you’re showing naivety in this area and that you may have some anger management issues you might want to address/resolve? A therapist can help you here. Please don’t think there is a stigma in talking about your problems and seeing a counsellor. You have friends.

Now that we’ve established the reasons behind you’re personal attacks on me is about you rather than what I’m saying could you repeat your question so I could respond?

Or perhaps better you ignore this post and move on? Up to you. But it might be better to not embarrass yourself more than you already have – I’m worried it could have an impact on your healing process.

Thanks again.

Sure, the question was: How much time on average would you say you spend thinking, talking, typing about Lance Armstrong in a typical day?

 

[thehog]

Sure, the question was: How much time on average would you say you spend thinking, talking, typing about Lance Armstrong in a typical day?

About 12 minutes.

Cheers theHog.

 

[jimmypop]

That's all very well, but what does any of that have to do with how much of the TheSwine's day is consumed by thoughts of Lance Armstrong?

Because it gets to the heart of the matter, unlike your meta-meta discussion.

 

[TubularBills]

That one really made me lol.

There are many haters here who can't even write a single post without naming Armstrong or make a reference to Armstrong.
You could open a new thread about tire pressure and they would claim that Lance's tire pressure was too high or low, or that he used forbidden secret air.
Or they perhaps tell us that Lance can't even pump up a tire by himself, because some neighbour, who heard that from someone, told them so in their dreams.
Total obsession.
It's the haters that feel the need to keep going on opening threads for every single blupppp, control every single word and move of his Lanceness, and never get tired or bored. I see another thread right now.
But good that there is a note about Contador-threads and 2 fixed hidden Armstrongthreads ! Says it all.
Well appreciated.

"Lance is hated by many, many people, but I don’t think the possibility of his doping has much to do with it. I think a lot of people simply know Lance for what he is: a despicable, self-centered, ego-maniacal, ruthless, malicious, petty, spiteful, immature, controlling, manipulative child with a martyr’s complex."

~Bikezilla

http://bikezilla.wordpress.com/2010/07/16/lance-armstrong-hes-earned-more-than-bad-press/

Maybe it's because LA is the corrollary of say Indurain, and is just too damn smug, vocal and arrogant about the whole thing. He abuses the word charity in speech and practice and taunts the public with his lies. To the point, he asks for it and has a huge target on his chest... you reap what you sow.

 

[Cobblestoned]

"Lance is hated by many, many people, but I don’t think the possibility of his doping has much to do with it. I think a lot of people simply know Lance for what he is: a despicable, self-centered, ego-maniacal, ruthless, malicious, petty, spiteful, immature, controlling, manipulative child with a martyr’s complex."

~Bikezilla

http://bikezilla.wordpress.com/2010/07/16/lance-armstrong-hes-earned-more-than-bad-press/

Maybe it's because LA is the corrollary of say Indurain, and is just too damn smug, vocal and arrogant about the whole thing. He abuses the word charity in speech and practice and taunts the public with his lies. To the point, he asks for it and has a huge target on his chest... you reap what you sow.

To the point:
Thanks for your support !

To the link:
Uh, oh. A link that confirms the haters. Now I will of course change my mind, because you placed that link.

To Lance:
Lance reaps nothing - because he doesn't care what people wabbledibabble here.
SSDD

 

[flicker]

"Lance is hated by many, many people, but I don’t think the possibility of his doping has much to do with it. I think a lot of people simply know Lance for what he is: a despicable, self-centered, ego-maniacal, ruthless, malicious, petty, spiteful, immature, controlling, manipulative child with a martyr’s complex."

~Bikezilla

http://bikezilla.wordpress.com/2010/07/16/lance-armstrong-hes-earned-more-than-bad-press/

Maybe it's because LA is the corrollary of say Indurain, and is just too damn smug, vocal and arrogant about the whole thing. He abuses the word charity in speech and practice and taunts the public with his lies. To the point, he asks for it and has a huge target on his chest... you reap what you sow.

My Lance doesn't like dopers OK. Read bikezilla the date june 10 2010.

Maybe Lance thought Contador was doping and wanted to protect his family from Contador.

 

[Altitude]

Because it gets to the heart of the matter, unlike your meta-meta discussion.

Alright.. still not really sure what your point is. That Lance doped to win his Tours? That isn't exactly news around here. That Lance is an arrogant ***? That isn't really news either. Even if I didn't already know these things, what do they have to do with my original question to TheSwine?

 

[Altitude]

About 12 minutes.

Cheers theHog.

12 minutes huh? Well I suspect that number is only slightly deflated so as not to scare everyone. But fair enough-- thanks for answering my question