Landis ABC Nightline interview

[Cobber]

I miss those GEICO commercials.......

 

[auscyclefan94]

OReilly looks stoned! - how long does this go for?

 

[Ferminal]

Emma O'Reilly saying she was basically a drug runner.

 

[El Imbatido]

After the ads Betsy and the hospitak incident

 

[auscyclefan94]

Now we are getting some "boner pill" ads!

 

[saganftw]

he better payback...or it will be used against him forever

 

[El Imbatido]

cyclingnews gets a plug

 

[TahoeNL]

he better payback...or it will be used against him forever

using it against him is not the point... paying people back is the right thing to do, not so people will "listen" but because it's making "right" what HE HAS the power to do. What a testament to a real change in his life that would be...

 

[auscyclefan94]

GO CYCLINGNEWS!

Betsy and Floyd is a legend!

 

[Ferminal]

"It's ruined his last Tour"

Herman is a clown...

 

[auscyclefan94]

I had never seen Betsy before, but she is right, the cleaning up starts with the uci.

 

[El Imbatido]

"It's ruined his last Tour"

Herman is a clown...

He is just keeping the myth alive......it is what he is getting paid for now

 

[Ferminal]

He is just keeping the myth alive......it is what he is getting paid for now

But I thought it was all those crashes and falls? At least that's what Phil told me.

 

[auscyclefan94]

He is just keeping the myth alive......it is what he is getting paid for now

Probably from the money of selling bikes!

 

[auscyclefan94]

Is that show a high rating show? What time is it in america?

 

[Muzzin]

Finished up around midnight on the East coast. Don't think it is real high in the ratings. First time I have seen it...

 

[auscyclefan94]

Finished up around midnight on the East coast. Don't think it is real high in the ratings. First time I have seen it...

I guess it is good to have more people see throug and realise the lie.

 

[theswordsman]

There was really nothing new, but it was good to see people on camera making claims now rather than relying on quotes from five years ago. I hope their willingness to talk will give others the strength to step forward.

Also, it was one more respectable, main stream news source telling the story after the denials. Not that many Americans see the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, New York Daily News, Sports Illustrated, ESPN, etc. I mean, not that big a percent of the population sees any one source. So every repetition gives it more of a ring of truth, and lets more people who don't follow the sport closely start questioning what they "know".

I wish someone would announce to the general public that own blood transfusions don't show up on tests, and that the cheaters are always way ahead of the tests. Explain to them that the Biological Passport system was established for that reason. Every time they here someone say, "most tested, never positive", someone should think, "yeah, but..."

Off topic, but my fandom of Contador was me giving pro cycling one last chance. I lost respect for him this week, with a number of things not related to chains. I didn't even watch today as he rode (for part of the stage at least) a bike with my name on it. Now I'm done with it all except for seeing this story through to the conclusion. Cheers everyone.

 

[Dunedain]

primetime on one of the three major american networks.

just wow.


this is not a printed media but a tele !

don't know but it has all the marks of being a nuclear bomb for many american fans of the sport.


lance will watch it with interest.

Americans already know the story. No nuclear bomb. Everyone I know thinks he probably doped. We also know everyone else was probably doping and that was the culture - dope, lie, etc. If not Lance, to whom should go the spoils? All have sinned. We admire the man, know he is far from perfect, but love what we can - his determination, fight, and care for others who struggle. As for the bad stuff, it wasn't Landis's place to talk about it. That's up to Lance.

 

[Mr.DNA]

Seems to me the dude's doing what he can to make amends for his wrongs.

If I had donated money to the Floyd Fund, I'd think I'm starting to get my money's worth over the last two months.

His story finally makes sense.

 

[Kennf1]

Americans already know the story. No nuclear bomb. Everyone I know thinks he probably doped. We also know everyone else was probably doping and that was the culture - dope, lie, etc. If not Lance, to whom should go the spoils? All have sinned. We admire the man, know he is far from perfect, but love what we can - his determination, fight, and care for others who struggle. As for the bad stuff, it wasn't Landis's place to talk about it. That's up to Lance.

I disagree on the first part. The vast majority still believe he's clean, because they know nothing of the sport, other than what they see on the Nike ads.

 

[sars1981]

Americans already know the story. No nuclear bomb. Everyone I know thinks he probably doped. We also know everyone else was probably doping and that was the culture - dope, lie, etc. If not Lance, to whom should go the spoils? All have sinned. We admire the man, know he is far from perfect, but love what we can - his determination, fight, and care for others who struggle. As for the bad stuff, it wasn't Landis's place to talk about it. That's up to Lance.

But nothing will ever change unless someone like Landis speaks up. The sport needs to be exposed for what it is before it can progress anywhere. As for admiring Lance despite his sins, well people are still free to do that after all this - just like the Barry Bonds fans.

 

[tubularglue]

link to video please. anyone tivo/youtube this yet ?

thanks ahead of time

 

[auscyclefan94]

I disagree on the first part. The vast majority still believe he's clean, because they know nothing of the sport, other than what they see on the Nike ads.

Your exactly right! - People see him as a champion and use the twisted fact that he never tested positive.

People are saying this is nothing knew but really to have the pictures of people making these claims is a big thing. When it is in a newspaper or on the net, it does not have the impact of a visual.

 

[Blakeslee]

Just finished watching the program, three quick observations:

1. I find myself increasingly having sympathy towards Floyd Landis. Clearly this was a situation of his own making and his behavior was dishonest and unethical. Despite this I think it took a lot of courage to come forward. Though still responsible for their own actions the riders were in many ways the victims in all of this. It made me think of all the riders who loved racing and were faced with the choice of doping or giving up on their dreams of racing at the top level of the sport.

2. Betsy Andreau came across as very credible. It is hard to see a motivation for her to be lying, the explanation offered by Armstrong's attorney was very weak.

3. Seeing all of the denials at once (from Armstrong, his attorney, and Bruyneel) showed just how weak some of these defenses being offered are. They sound too much like the denials we have heard from others in the past and ultimately make Armstrong sound guilty.