Landis ABC Nightline interview

[hfer07]

what I liked about the entire interview, was the way Landis was speaking & his composure/body language during the questions-he's changed and I'm glad for him that he got the closure he was seeking.

 

[python]

can someone post a summary for those of us who could not watch live ?

 

[TahoeNL]

Seems to me the dude's doing what he can to make amends for his wrongs.

If I had donated money to the Floyd Fund, I'd think I'm starting to get my money's worth over the last two months.

His story finally makes sense.

Let me get this straight... first you believe him (inocent) and give him money... but now he says he defrauded you... and you believe him, and think you got your money's worth. I have some great land you might be interested in...

 

[tubularglue]

thanks Floyd, payback comes in many shades of gray.

FLOYD IS NOT PULLING THE STRINGS NOW

behind closed doors, lets let the Feds draw up the gameplan.

atleast that is what i think is happening.



leak by leak by leak by leak by leak by leak by leak

 

[sars1981]

I imagine there will be a download available soon enough. I'll post it when I find one.

 

[buckwheat]

What surprises me most. Is that Armstrong was so open about using. My own impression that he was such a control freak that no one else knew what he did. I though he roomed on his own and never would have allowed someone to see him dope. I had no doubt that Bruyneel would have encouraged the test of the team but Lance I though would have done it alone. Just shows how normal it was to stick a needle in your arm(strong).

"Do you really think I'd do that? after the treatment I had for cancer? Put that poison in my body? I mean come on! I'm not going to do that"

My belief is that his treatment for cancer taught him to dope more discriminately than before. He probably became a lot more scientific about it rather than just injesting large quantities of everything.

 

[buckwheat]

Is that show a high rating show? What time is it in america?

It's a news show @ 2330 til around midnight. Well regarded show. It used to be legendary when Ted Koppel was the host. Tonight was the first night I watched it in years.

Now that the story has gained traction and the Federal Investigation is going to proceed, LA is going to be the biggest instrument in his own downfall. He's not giving up so it's forcing the Feds to destroy him, and he'll be destroyed for sure.

 

[hfer07]

Floyd maybe telling the truth... but here it is, If you wanna do "the right thing" and have me care, work hard to raise money and payback all the people who gave you money for your defense - that you now say was fraud- then, maybe then, I'll care to listen to anything else you might have to say about life or racing...

what's the difference between raising money to defend a lie, and build an empire based on lies?
looks to me we have two faces of the same token

 

[tubularglue]

there seems to be a lot of institutions, businesses, groups, charities involved.


this will spiderweb. first layer of the tootsie pop, i am thinking.

 

[redtreviso]

My belief is that his treatment for cancer taught him to dope more discriminately than before. He probably became a lot more scientific about it rather than just injesting large quantities of everything.

I believe that too..LA's cancer doctors might laugh at what Dr. Ferrari was trying to do..Unlike Ferrari they know all the tricks that mean life or death for some people..It takes a lowlife to want that for bicycle racing success.

 

[tubularglue]

espn picks up video.

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling/news/story?id=5405134&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

 

[tubularglue]

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling/news/story?id=5405134&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

video/documentary

 

[erader]

Floyd maybe telling the truth... but here it is, If you wanna do "the right thing" and have me care, work hard to raise money and payback all the people who gave you money for your defense - that you now say was fraud- then, maybe then, I'll care to listen to anything else you might have to say about life or racing...

anyone who donated money to floyd in the belief that he was not a doper got exactly what they deserved.

erader

 

[Mr.DNA]

Let me get this straight... first you believe him (inocent) and give him money... but now he says he defrauded you... and you believe him, and think you got your money's worth. I have some great land you might be interested in...

So how much did you donate?

 

[cody_57]

Denial

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

I think Lance will be brilliant at politics!

 

[onefastgear]

Link to official YouTube vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyfbcVn4qJ8

 

[frenchfry]

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling/news/story?id=5405134&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

video/documentary

This John Eustice guy either knows absolutely nothing about pro cycling or is on Lance's payroll. What a clown.

 

[Ferminal]

This John Eustice guy either knows absolutely nothing about pro cycling or is on Lance's payroll. What a clown.

Hey leave him alone, Lance has never tested positive you know, and all the tests by USADA and WADA (not UCI) catch people so they would've caught him if he was using PEDs.

 

[Pedaaldanser]

Link to official YouTube vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyfbcVn4qJ8

hehe I just watched that, when I started watching it had only 4 views but when I was done it had 34

Too bad that's only a short piece, I'd like to see the whole thing if it becomes available online.

 

[marinoni]

He's had lots of practice

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

I think Lance will be brilliant at politics!

He's already brilliant at politics, albeit in a horribly cynical way. He's been working from the Bush/Rove playbook for years now. It's based on the assumption that the vast majority are lazy, mindless dullards. Forget about the small minority of people who take the time to learn the facts and think critically. Concentrate on the dullards. Repeat over and over again "I have never tested positive/ Saddam is behind 911", etc etc. Use friendly media outlets to pump out the message. When the critics get a little too loud, either accuse them of trying to destroy cycling/ the American way of life, or suggest that they hate cancer patients/love terrorists. Ugly political manipulation at it's finest.

 

[irritated_cycling_fan]

It's probably all true but two things bug me

I don't really know if he doped or not, over the years I've heard believeable pros and cons for both sides. At this point there are still two issues that bother me. One regarding Landis and one regarding those who've been caught doping that have had some connection to Armstrong.

I've never seen this mentioned before but it really bothers me when everyone starts with the '... his previous teammates doped so he must have' arguement. As I understand it the belief is that the team all doped together or at least using the same methodology. That makes sense. What bothers me is this: if Armstrong and all his teammates used the same methods for not getting caught, and they haven't, why is it that Heras, Beltran, Landis, etc. only got caught after going to other teams? It's the one question that keeps coming back over and over. Obviously whatever method Armstrong and his teams use is very successful. Given that success record why would any of the people who moved to other teams not go on using the same method? If they did, why did they get caught when Armstrong and his teammates at that time not get caught? That more than anything leaves me with a small bit of doubt. As I said, I've never seen it addressed and I'm hoping someone can.

As for Landis, he just turns my stomach. Whether he's telling the truth or not anytime I read someone talking him up as some kind hero or saying how great he is that 'he's willing to sacrifice himself to clean up the sport'; it makes me want to vomit!! Doesn't anyone question why, when he admitted his doping (and supposedly that of all his teammates), he still insists that he WASN'T doping when he won the Tour? He's willing to say anything but still not willing to let go of his 'win' of the Tour. To me that says he's still out more for himself than trying to do 'right' by the sport.

I just hope this whole thing gets wrapped up quickly so the 'cycling forums' go back to actually talking about cycling.

 

[wheelsucker]

This John Eustice guy either knows absolutely nothing about pro cycling or is on Lance's payroll. What a clown.

agreed. eustice has been around this sport for a long time, he must know what's going on. he's aping the same line as those friendly faces on vs. - don't rock the lance boat.

 

[Cozy Beehive]

link to video please. anyone tivo/youtube this yet ?

thanks ahead of time

Ready to take the poor man's video capture? Just uploaded it on the blog.

 

[Ninety5rpm]

I don't really know if he doped or not, over the years I've heard believeable pros and cons for both sides. At this point there are still two issues that bother me. One regarding Landis and one regarding those who've been caught doping that have had some connection to Armstrong.

I've never seen this mentioned before but it really bothers me when everyone starts with the '... his previous teammates doped so he must have' arguement. As I understand it the belief is that the team all doped together or at least using the same methodology. That makes sense. What bothers me is this: if Armstrong and all his teammates used the same methods for not getting caught, and they haven't, why is it that Heras, Beltran, Landis, etc. only got caught after going to other teams? It's the one question that keeps coming back over and over. Obviously whatever method Armstrong and his teams use is very successful. Given that success record why would any of the people who moved to other teams not go on using the same method? If they did, why did they get caught when Armstrong and his teammates at that time not get caught? That more than anything leaves me with a small bit of doubt. As I said, I've never seen it addressed and I'm hoping someone can.

As for Landis, he just turns my stomach. Whether he's telling the truth or not anytime I read someone talking him up as some kind hero or saying how great he is that 'he's willing to sacrifice himself to clean up the sport'; it makes me want to vomit!! Doesn't anyone question why, when he admitted his doping (and supposedly that of all his teammates), he still insists that he WASN'T doping when he won the Tour? He's willing to say anything but still not willing to let go of his 'win' of the Tour. To me that says he's still out more for himself than trying to do 'right' by the sport.

I just hope this whole thing gets wrapped up quickly so the 'cycling forums' go back to actually talking about cycling.

I think this is a good post and reflects much of what I've thought and feel.

One speculation is that Armstrong paid the supposed guru of doping in cycling, Michele Ferrari, to exclusively help only him (and his team). So while with Lance they were all getting the best available guidance, and when they went to another team, they had to wing it, so to speak, and made mistakes.

Another possibility is that although Armstrong was tested many times, the system might have been greased with, uh, donations, so that they were warned in advance about tests coming (and so could prepare accordingly), etc., and those advantages did not exist either when these guys went to other teams.

I don't know anything about this stuff other than what I read, but these seem like plausible explanations to me for why it is all the guys got caught after leaving Lance.

 

[marinoni]

anyone who donated money to floyd in the belief that he was not a doper got exactly what they deserved.

erader

Thaaank you!