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Having just read the email exchange i was expecting something quite sensational given the obvious excitement of previous posters.

What i saw was the same old Floyd: i.e.

Your a liar
Come clean
Tell Lance to come clean
You will have to testify bla blah.
I was lost but now I'm found
The truth has set me free.

I thought HV's response was pretty much on the money, despite my reservations about the man.
 

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Poor Hein, poor poor arrogant pompous hein. Couldn't help himself. Had to take his own course of action as he was so angry that someone as lowly, uncultured, and pennyless as Landis would spill the beans.

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I pray for the rematch. Doubt it will happen.

That exchange was kinda like when Pedro Martinez threw Don Zimmer to the ground, except Floyd's dispatching HV was funny as $hit. I don't even think Floyd could bury the old man more in a bike race.

What's all this talk about extraditing the Hog? What does he have to hide?:D
 
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JimmyHoffa said:
Most rat's snitch to gain leniency.

Landis has already lost everything.
Has nothing to gain.
Has perjury risk for statements made under oath.

Landis did it for money. He's broke and sold the story to WSJ. After spending all the money fans donated for his doping defense. And he'll probably make a deal to avoid being prosecuted for perjury.

I don't get why everyone treats this lying doper like a hero. I would have respected him a lot more if he had been honest when he was caught, rather than waiting until his career was stalled and he ran out of cash.
 

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SpartacusRox said:
Having just read the email exchange i was expecting something quite sensational given the obvious excitement of previous posters.

What i saw was the same old Floyd: i.e.

Your a liar
Come clean
Tell Lance to come clean
You will have to testify bla blah.
I was lost but now I'm found
The truth has set me free.

I thought HV's response was pretty much on the money, despite my reservations about the man.

Floyd tore him up effortlessly.

He stated the truth and was funny as hell without trying to be funny.

HV was a raging bull about to charge Floyd and he was swatted out of the air like a fly.

HV, eff you and die you old lyin ba$tard.
 
SoCalCyclingfan said:
Landis did it for money. He's broke and sold the story to WSJ. After spending all the money fans donated for his doping defense. And he'll probably make a deal to avoid being prosecuted for perjury.

I don't get why everyone treats this lying doper like a hero. I would have respected him a lot more if he had been honest when he was caught, rather than waiting until his career was stalled and he ran out of cash.

Do you have the report indicating that Landis was paid (and how much) for the WSJ story?
 
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This is bigger than Landis. Fanboys pound on him because their anger at having believed in a complete fraud for these many years, years in which they were presented with a plethora of information that should have opened their eyes, has to be expressed somewhere. People who are mentally weak enough to engage in that kind of hero worship simply cannot accept that their anger is a reaction to their inability to look at some tough things about themselves. Its cool, we all have our foibles.
 
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Landis did it for money. He's broke and sold the story to WSJ. After spending all the money fans donated for his doping defense. And he'll probably make a deal to avoid being prosecuted for perjury.
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I think if you have evidence of that you should put up. Because the previous reports have all been that Floyd has not been paid for the article.
 
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Thoughtforfood said:
This is bigger than Landis. Fanboys pound on him because their anger at having believed in a complete fraud for these many years, years in which they were presented with a plethora of information that should have opened their eyes, has to be expressed somewhere. People who are mentally weak enough to engage in that kind of hero worship simply cannot accept that their anger is a reaction to their inability to look at some tough things about themselves. Its cool, we all have our foibles.

My eyes have been open the whole time (doesn't mean I don't enjoy watching a bike race). I've heard from a variety of retired European cyclists regarding their views on doping in pro cycling.

When I saw Floyd's "miraculous" ride in the 2006 TdF, my first reaction was that he must have gotten a blood transfusion. My guess is that he forgot he was taking testosterone in the off-season and that it would be in the banked blood.

I tried to keep an open mind. Went to see him take at the LA Tri Club meeting. Read his book. Still didn't buy his story.

Yeah, he's got a good sense of humor. But he lied for years and took money from fans for his defense. He's a loser.

So all I'm saying is I don't get why you all hate Lance so much but praise Landis...who finally confessed when he had no other option.
 
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My eyes have been open the whole time (doesn't mean I don't enjoy watching a bike race). I've heard from a variety of retired European cyclists regarding their views on doping in pro cycling.

When I saw Floyd's "miraculous" ride in the 2006 TdF, my first reaction was that he must have gotten a blood transfusion. My guess is that he forgot he was taking testosterone in the off-season and that it would be in the banked blood.

I tried to keep an open mind. Went to see him take at the LA Tri Club meeting. Read his book. Still didn't buy his story.

Yeah, he's got a good sense of humor. But he lied for years and took money from fans for his defense. He's a loser.

So all I'm saying is I don't get why you all hate Lance so much but praise Landis...who finally confessed when he had no other option.

How much was Landis paid for the WSJ story?
 
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SoCalCyclingfan said:
My eyes have been open the whole time (doesn't mean I don't enjoy watching a bike race). I've heard from a variety of retired European cyclists regarding their views on doping in pro cycling.

When I saw Floyd's "miraculous" ride in the 2006 TdF, my first reaction was that he must have gotten a blood transfusion. My guess is that he forgot he was taking testosterone in the off-season and that it would be in the banked blood.

I tried to keep an open mind. Went to see him take at the LA Tri Club meeting. Read his book. Still didn't buy his story.

Yeah, he's got a good sense of humor. But he lied for years and took money from fans for his defense. He's a loser.

So all I'm saying is I don't get why you all hate Lance so much but praise Landis...who finally confessed when he had no other option.

The "hate" of Armstrong is merely a desire to see him suffer the consequences a person who has tried to destroy the lives of others deserves.

I never believed Landis until he confessed in May. His revelations are easy to believe if you have actually known the truth of doping in pro cycling for years...because they confirm what everyone with an open mind and open eyes already knew.
 
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Even if Greg's lawyers wrote those emails for Floyd, they were damn funny. Hein took both of those comebacks straight up the Hein-ie, and well deserved it. Hope he enjoys irony; he just did more to rebuild Floyd's public image than any paid PR firm ever could have. Probably should have kept his wit to himself, in Hein-sight.
 
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I think if you have evidence of that you should put up. Because the previous reports have all been that Floyd has not been paid for the article.

My bad. I don't have evidence that he was paid. But he does mention that he is planning on writing another book, which will make him money, and this has gotten him a ton of publicity.

Again, I'm not defending LA, just don't think Landis is a gem either.
 

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Got it.

He snitched on Armstrong cause he knew it would lead to book sales on a future book.

Surprised more people don't just slander people and then write books for profit.
 
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Got it.

He snitched on Armstrong cause he knew it would lead to book sales on a future book.

Surprised more people don't just slander people and then write books for profit.

Are you thehog then?

I think you're making Martin's head explode.