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Monte Zoncolon said:Greg Lemond and Stephanie Mcllvain / Tape Recorded Telephone Conversation / Recorded in 2004
http://j.b5z.net/i/u/2132106/m/gregstef.mp3
Some Transcripts from that recording
Stephanie Mcllvain – If I was subpoenaed I would. Because I am not going to lie. You know I was
in that room, "I HEARD IT". You know and, and, am, I definitely wont lie, You know, am, Yea.
Stephanie Mcllvain - My whole concern is My loyalty to Oakley, You know. I don't want all of a
sudden, Me to go in there and I, You know, testify pretty willingly.
Dallas_ said:This tape refresher has me more inclined to believe, that in fact Stephanie did tell the truth in front of the GJ. Maybe the GJ offered her immunity in the SCA case and reminded her of Marion's 6 month holiday!
Dallas_ said:If Stephanie does get thrown to the wolves, I hope LA does support her in everyway possible way, including finacial help. The way I see it, if LA had not pressed SCA, Stephanie would not be in a hot seat now. cheers to all
BotanyBay said:The GJ offers you nothing (it's not their place to do so). That must come from the prosecutor. Fact is, she wants to keep her easy-street job so that she can care for her son, and so long as she plays to Lance's tune, she gets to keep that job.
Berzin said:This issue is overblown. She is married to an Oakley executive, so even if she loses her job (which I highly doubt) she is not going to be out in the street.
And given the circumstances, she will either get a nice severance package to keep quiet or she has a good wrongful termination suit.
Either way she's covered.
Berzin said:This issue is overblown. She is married to an Oakley executive, so even if she loses her job (which I highly doubt) she is not going to be out in the street.
And given the circumstances, she will either get a nice severance package to keep quiet or she has a good wrongful termination suit.
Either way she's covered.
BotanyBay said:If she tells the truth, both she AND her husband are out the door. You don't think Oakley has some good "for cause" items sitting in both of their files, ready to go (if needed)? People assume "Oakley can't be that dumb". I've never seen a corporation act smart in such circumstances. Lance will signal to make her life difficult, and they'll do it on cue. They'll out-lawyer them if they sue. Appeal everything, delay everything, outspend them on attorneys, etc.
Alternately, once Lance no longer needs her silence, she'll also be fired for cause for some random thing she did at work one day. Hubby too.
Oldman said:+1. Oakley and Nike can't afford to have their atheletes concerned about the nigling underlings that are paid to serve. Can you imagine the "services" the sponsors provide NBA players?
thehog said:Don't have the Paris Hilton tapes by any chance?
washedup said:Just listening to the NPR story.... It mentions a guy by the name of James Start. Apparently he testified that McIlvain told him the hospital room incident really happened.
Not that it adds anything more than a stick to the fire, but I am just surprised that I hadn't heard the story before.
Dr. Maserati said:A brief rundown:
• It was Sunday 27th October 1996. (Sorry, but 10/2/96 was when LA was diagnosed)
• It was not a hospital bedroom - it was a bigger room in the Hospital, to acccomadate them to watch a Dallas Cowboys game.
• Indiana University Hospital is a training Hospital - the Doctors who entered were not LA's Doctors, Dr. Nichols or Dr. Einhorn.
• When they entered people were getting up to leave but Lance said "its ok, you can stay".
• The Andreus were due to be married later that year - and had an arguement as Betsy wanted to know if Frankie was also using "that shit".
• Only 4 in the room testified during SCA- Lance, Betsy, Frankie & Stephanie McIlvain.
• A reporter called James Startt also testified that McIlvain had recounted the story to him.
• Even though LA said no Doctors entered the room - LA's lawyer suggested that perhaps she overheard the doctors talking about LA's post cancer treatment.
• Dr.Craig Nichols sent in a statement denying the incident - which is true as he was not there.
• The SCA case was held in late 2005 - and resolved in early 2006.
• The Indiana University Cancer Centre received an 'endowment' of $1.5 million from the Lance Armstrong Foundation in October 2005.
• The OHSU where Dr. Nichols worked received a 'grant' of $500,000 from the LAF in May 2006. He is also on the Board of Directors of the LAF.
washedup said:Just listening to the NPR story.... It mentions a guy by the name of James Start. Apparently he testified that McIlvain told him the hospital room incident really happened.
Not that it adds anything more than a stick to the fire, but I am just surprised that I hadn't heard the story before.
Dallas_ said:off topic
...
Betsy alleges that Vrijman is a friend of Hein Verbruggen. And from what I am lead to believe, Verbruggen and Armstrong are business partners. ... and here is me once thinking the UCI had a lot of credibility.
...
D-Queued said:Betsy is echoing what has been a fairly common allegation/statement.
The two have known each other at least back to 1999 where they both spoke on a panel and were published together.
Moreover, Jean Pitallier, president of the French Cycling Federation (FFC) is said to have suggested the connection and 'even made an issue of nationality, pointing out that Vrijman and former UCI president Hein Verbruggen are both Dutch.
Moreover, someone named 'Jean' has posted the connection on a number of cycling forums. References are found in both English and French.
Whether friend or not, the fact that Vrijman's career had been as a defense attorney defending high-profile athletes against doping charges should raise some eyebrows.
Dave.
thehog said:The report became good stick:
ON THE 1999 TESTS WHICH ALLEGEDLY CONTAINED EPO
"Well, the Vrijmen report cleared it up. We participated fully in the investigation, other parties did not. Even the newspaper that reported this, L’Equipe, said the athlete in question cannot defend himself because there are no samples to test. If that’s not there then I’m not sure it’s fair to accuse or to prosecute. But as I said, the matter has been cleared."
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...armstrong-press-conference-from-tenerife.html
Race Radio said:The lies flow effortlessly.....there are plenty left of those samples. Wonderboy could have easily had a DNA test run
Vrijman Is indeed friends with Verbruggen. He also has a long history of helping dopers escape sanction. After his actions were exposed he admited that he suplied Katrin Krabbe with false, plastic, doping kits in order to prove that the labs are not working correct and to challenge their credibility. Krabbe won the case because Vrijman proved that the labatory made mistakes in the procedure. He did this during his presidency of the Dutch national doping agency Necedo! Of course Krabbe later tested positive again and was suspended.
In the anti-doping community Vrijman is a joke. That Wonderboy continues to point to him as proof is laughable.
BotanyBay said:People incorrectly assume that corporations like Oakley are even the slightest bit frightened by the prospect of a lawsuit from an employee like McIlvain.
Race Radio said:The lies flow effortlessly.....there are plenty left of those samples. Wonderboy could have easily had a DNA test run
Vrijman Is indeed friends with Verbruggen. He also has a long history of helping dopers escape sanction. After his actions were exposed he admited that he suplied Katrin Krabbe with false, plastic, doping kits in order to prove that the labs are not working correct and to challenge their credibility. Krabbe won the case because Vrijman proved that the labatory made mistakes in the procedure. He did this during his presidency of the Dutch national doping agency Necedo! Of course Krabbe later tested positive again and was suspended.
In the anti-doping community Vrijman is a joke. That Wonderboy continues to point to him as proof is laughable.