Greg Lemond and Stephanie Mcllvain / Tape Recorded Telephone Conversation / Recorded in 2004
http://j.b5z.net/i/u/2132106/m/gregstef.mp3
Some Transcripts from that recording
Greg Lemond – Are You still with Oakley then ?
Stephanie Mcllvain – Yea working for, for Lance.
Greg Lemond – Oh You are.
Stephanie Mcllvain – Well I'm only just. I'm just doing. Am. Yea. I'm just doing the stuff anything
that ( next two sentences spoken by Stephanie Mcllvain – Audio of Poor Quality – Very difficult to
make out what exactly she is saying )............ See I. I were going to resign, or resign because am,
My Son has Autism.
Greg Lemond – Oh.
Stephanie Mcllvain – Yea. And I just. You know. Need to be at Home. When ??? was dealing with
all the Bull**it. You know. Like the way the Sport was going. Either anyway. That I was kind of
bored. So I resigned. But then am Lance asked Me to stay on. Just, just to take care of Him. And
Oakley said that's fine. But I said oh I'll do it. You know cause it. Income that I could keep . Ah
still. Put that income toward Dillon's Therapy.
Greg Lemond – Right. Right.
Stephanie Mcllvain – So I do that. And I was doing quite a bit. But You know that. He's such a big
time You know.
Greg Lemond – So I mean are You still ????? ( Audio of poor quality )...................?????.
Stephanie Mcllvain – Not really No.
Greg Lemond – You talk to Him more often ?
Stephanie Mcllvain – No I used to . I used to You know. Up until October We talked quite a bit, and
He came to stay at the House and stuff. And then, am, after He started on through the whole
Divorce. And seeing Cheryl. Am He just kinda, You know He's too big time though.
Greg Lemond – Well. He's, He's...............
Stephanie Mcllvain – Big time and...............
Greg Lemond – He's actually, I think like a Sociopath. I mean He's..........
Stephanie Mcllvain – He's, He's A.P.H.D. Man.
Greg Lemond – A.P.H.D. But He has so much anger.
Stephanie Mcllvain – He does. He need's Help.
Greg Lemond – Oh. He's I mean, as long as he can keep running and keep getting His, His, His ego
kind of stroke . He, He, will be fine. But ah.................
Stephanie Mcllvain – Yeah. And that's what everybody does is, they all kicked His *ss. All the
time.
Greg Lemond – Well I, I. I mean I, I talked to Betsy, just a little bit. I mean, I said You know. Three
Years ago. And I just, You know, I had some other information from somebody that worked on a
Team. And You know I, His, His, things. His things are presented to Me. I really wanted to believe
Him, in the first couple of Years. And before that I kept getting more and more info's like, this Guy
You know. He's defrauding everybody. And...............
Stephanie Mcllvain – Yeah.............
Stephanie Mcllvain – Ah. Between You and I, everything I say is not going to be repeated. To
anybody right............
Greg Lemond – It won't be repeated. And.............
Stephanie Mcllvain – Promise Me that. Am I being taped right now ?
Or is Your Wife writing down anything ?
Greg Lemond – No. Your not. Am My Wife, is ah. She is sitting next to Me. But she is. She'll leave
the room if You want.
Stephanie Mcllvain – No I like Cathy. Tell Cathy I said Hi.
Greg Lemond – She say's Hi.
Greg Lemond – If so............?????? ( Audio of poor quality)............... I'm just tryin to give You a
little History of what You know happened three Year's ago. And, and I, what is in David Walsh's
Book is, is, really did happen. And, and You know three day's through the Tour. I mean Lance calls
Me up. And He...............
Stephanie Mcllvain – Well I know it happened. Because I remember. Either I was ah. I just
remember. I remember that it did happen cause He either told Me or I remember Him being really
pi**ed at You. And that He was going to give You a call or something. I totally remember that.
Greg Lemond – Yea well................
Stephanie Mcllvain – He was pi**ed at You cause he told me. You Know.
Greg Lemond – Well, and, and................
Stephanie Mcllvain – And doesnt surprise Me that He actually did do that.
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Greg Lemond – If he want's to threaten Me. I mean this is where it got to the point where He said...
…... "come on everyone's done EPO" . And He said......... "Your telling Me that You didn't do
any EPO to win in 89" ....... I said EPO wasn't even on the Sport. I said long before EPO ever came
along, I won the Tour De France. I got really pi**ed. And then He basically said..... "If You want to
throw stones. I can throw stones" ........... And I'll find. Not, I will find ............ "I will make sure
there are ten people that will say You took EPO" ..........
Greg Lemond – Betsy and I have talked a little bit. But, and I, and I'm not asking You to do
anything You would never want to do. But know, if, if I did get, get down to clear it with a You
know, with a Lawsuit, am, are, are..........would You be willing to testify or..............
Stephanie Mcllvain – If I was subpoenaed I would. Because I am not going to lie. You know I was
in that room, "I HEARD IT". You know and, and, am, I definitely wont lie, You know, am, Yea.
Stephanie Mcllvain - My whole concern is My loyalty to Oakley, You know. I don't want all of a
sudden, Me to go in there and I, You know, testify pretty willingly.
http://j.b5z.net/i/u/2132106/m/gregstef.mp3
Some Transcripts from that recording
Greg Lemond – Are You still with Oakley then ?
Stephanie Mcllvain – Yea working for, for Lance.
Greg Lemond – Oh You are.
Stephanie Mcllvain – Well I'm only just. I'm just doing. Am. Yea. I'm just doing the stuff anything
that ( next two sentences spoken by Stephanie Mcllvain – Audio of Poor Quality – Very difficult to
make out what exactly she is saying )............ See I. I were going to resign, or resign because am,
My Son has Autism.
Greg Lemond – Oh.
Stephanie Mcllvain – Yea. And I just. You know. Need to be at Home. When ??? was dealing with
all the Bull**it. You know. Like the way the Sport was going. Either anyway. That I was kind of
bored. So I resigned. But then am Lance asked Me to stay on. Just, just to take care of Him. And
Oakley said that's fine. But I said oh I'll do it. You know cause it. Income that I could keep . Ah
still. Put that income toward Dillon's Therapy.
Greg Lemond – Right. Right.
Stephanie Mcllvain – So I do that. And I was doing quite a bit. But You know that. He's such a big
time You know.
Greg Lemond – So I mean are You still ????? ( Audio of poor quality )...................?????.
Stephanie Mcllvain – Not really No.
Greg Lemond – You talk to Him more often ?
Stephanie Mcllvain – No I used to . I used to You know. Up until October We talked quite a bit, and
He came to stay at the House and stuff. And then, am, after He started on through the whole
Divorce. And seeing Cheryl. Am He just kinda, You know He's too big time though.
Greg Lemond – Well. He's, He's...............
Stephanie Mcllvain – Big time and...............
Greg Lemond – He's actually, I think like a Sociopath. I mean He's..........
Stephanie Mcllvain – He's, He's A.P.H.D. Man.
Greg Lemond – A.P.H.D. But He has so much anger.
Stephanie Mcllvain – He does. He need's Help.
Greg Lemond – Oh. He's I mean, as long as he can keep running and keep getting His, His, His ego
kind of stroke . He, He, will be fine. But ah.................
Stephanie Mcllvain – Yeah. And that's what everybody does is, they all kicked His *ss. All the
time.
Greg Lemond – Well I, I. I mean I, I talked to Betsy, just a little bit. I mean, I said You know. Three
Years ago. And I just, You know, I had some other information from somebody that worked on a
Team. And You know I, His, His, things. His things are presented to Me. I really wanted to believe
Him, in the first couple of Years. And before that I kept getting more and more info's like, this Guy
You know. He's defrauding everybody. And...............
Stephanie Mcllvain – Yeah.............
Stephanie Mcllvain – Ah. Between You and I, everything I say is not going to be repeated. To
anybody right............
Greg Lemond – It won't be repeated. And.............
Stephanie Mcllvain – Promise Me that. Am I being taped right now ?
Or is Your Wife writing down anything ?
Greg Lemond – No. Your not. Am My Wife, is ah. She is sitting next to Me. But she is. She'll leave
the room if You want.
Stephanie Mcllvain – No I like Cathy. Tell Cathy I said Hi.
Greg Lemond – She say's Hi.
Greg Lemond – If so............?????? ( Audio of poor quality)............... I'm just tryin to give You a
little History of what You know happened three Year's ago. And, and I, what is in David Walsh's
Book is, is, really did happen. And, and You know three day's through the Tour. I mean Lance calls
Me up. And He...............
Stephanie Mcllvain – Well I know it happened. Because I remember. Either I was ah. I just
remember. I remember that it did happen cause He either told Me or I remember Him being really
pi**ed at You. And that He was going to give You a call or something. I totally remember that.
Greg Lemond – Yea well................
Stephanie Mcllvain – He was pi**ed at You cause he told me. You Know.
Greg Lemond – Well, and, and................
Stephanie Mcllvain – And doesnt surprise Me that He actually did do that.
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_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Greg Lemond – If he want's to threaten Me. I mean this is where it got to the point where He said...
…... "come on everyone's done EPO" . And He said......... "Your telling Me that You didn't do
any EPO to win in 89" ....... I said EPO wasn't even on the Sport. I said long before EPO ever came
along, I won the Tour De France. I got really pi**ed. And then He basically said..... "If You want to
throw stones. I can throw stones" ........... And I'll find. Not, I will find ............ "I will make sure
there are ten people that will say You took EPO" ..........
Greg Lemond – Betsy and I have talked a little bit. But, and I, and I'm not asking You to do
anything You would never want to do. But know, if, if I did get, get down to clear it with a You
know, with a Lawsuit, am, are, are..........would You be willing to testify or..............
Stephanie Mcllvain – If I was subpoenaed I would. Because I am not going to lie. You know I was
in that room, "I HEARD IT". You know and, and, am, I definitely wont lie, You know, am, Yea.
Stephanie Mcllvain - My whole concern is My loyalty to Oakley, You know. I don't want all of a
sudden, Me to go in there and I, You know, testify pretty willingly.
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Monte Zoncolon said:
This tape refresher has me more inclined to believe, that in fact Stephanie did tell the truth in front of the GJ. Maybe the GJ offered her immunity in the SCA case and reminded her of Marion's 6 month holiday!
If Stephanie does get thrown to the wolves, I hope LA does support her in everyway possible way, including finacial help. The way I see it, if LA had not pressed SCA, Stephanie would not be in a hot seat now. cheers to all
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Dallas_ said:
The GJ offers you nothing (it's not their place to do so). That must come from the prosecutor. Fact is, she wants to keep her easy-street job so that she can care for her son, and so long as she plays to Lance's tune, she gets to keep that job.
Dallas_ said:
Ask anyone who has ever had any kind of dealings with Lance if they think the above will happen. My opinion is that it'd never happen. The man only knows loyalty in one direction (towards himself).
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BotanyBay said:
This issue is overblown. She is married to an Oakley executive, so even if she loses her job (which I highly doubt) she is not going to be out in the street.
And given the circumstances, she will either get a nice severance package to keep quiet or she has a good wrongful termination suit.
Either way she's covered.
Berzin said:
Definitely agree on that second point. No way Oakley would want to open that can of worms and pretend they didn't know what was going on.
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Berzin said:
If she tells the truth, both she AND her husband are out the door. You don't think Oakley has some good "for cause" items sitting in both of their files, ready to go (if needed)? People assume "Oakley can't be that dumb". I've never seen a corporation act smart in such circumstances. Lance will signal to make her life difficult, and they'll do it on cue. They'll out-lawyer them if they sue. Appeal everything, delay everything, outspend them on attorneys, etc.
Alternately, once Lance no longer needs her silence, she'll also be fired for cause for some random thing she did at work one day. Hubby too.
Just adding this article to to mix
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/23/sportsline/main6893571.shtml
LOS ANGELES, Sept. 23, 2010.
Armstrong Never Said He Doped, Friend Testifies.
Stephanie McIlvain Tells Grand Jury She Never Heard Cyclist Admit He Used Performance-Enhancing Drugs.
A longtime friend of Lance Armstrong's told a federal grand jury that she never heard the cyclist admit he used performance-enhancing drugs, the woman's attorney said Wednesday.
Stephanie McIlvain, also a business associate of Armstrong's, appeared before the jury hearing evidence connected to allegations of doping in professional cycling during a daylong session.
"She testified that she had never heard Lance Armstrong say he had taken performance-enhancing drugs," said McIlvain's attorney, Thomas H. Bienert Jr.
The testimony contradicts claims by Armstrong rivals that he acknowledged using banned substances 14 years ago when he battling cancer.
Bienert said McIlvain had never been pressured by Armstrong or others to lie. She was Armstrong's liaison at sunglasses-maker Oakley during the cyclist's record seven Tour de France victories. Oakley has been a longtime Armstrong sponsor.
McIlvain was present in the hospital room where Armstrong was being treated for cancer in 1996, when former teammate Frankie Andreu and his wife, Betsy, claim the cyclist told doctors he used performance-enhancing drugs.
Armstrong vehemently denies that he cheated — or that he made such a statement — and McIlvain has previously testified in a civil case that she didn't hear Armstrong admit to doping in that conversation.
However, in a phone call secretly recorded by Tour winner and Armstrong critic Greg LeMond, McIlvain seemed to take a more ambiguous stance, saying that she heard the hospital conversation and would testify in a lawsuit if subpoenaed. However, she never said exactly what she heard.
Unauthorized versions of the LeMond-McIlvain conversation have long been available on various cycling websites.
Bienert said McIlvain was truthful when she told the jury that she never heard Armstrong admit that he doped.
"Any comments she made suggesting the contrary were simply gossip, speculation and opinion with people she thought were her friends, like Betsy Andreu," Bienert said.
Federal prosecutor Doug Miller declined comment after Wednesday's proceedings.
Betsy Andreu said earlier this month she spoke with Food and Drug Administration agent Jeff Novitzky about Armstrong, but declined to give details.
In an e-mail, Betsy Andreu accused McIlvain of lying under oath Wednesday. "Stephanie not only talked about Lance's use of performance-enhancing drugs with me and Frankie but with many others as well."
She said there will be "overwhelming" evidence to support her claims that Armstrong said he used performance-enhancing drugs.
Armstrong became a more important figure in the probe this spring after disgraced cyclist Floyd Landis dropped long-standing denials and admitted he used performance-enhancing drugs. In doing so, he accused Armstrong and others of systematic drug use. Landis won the Tour in 2006, but was stripped of his title for doping.
Plus This Article
http://fraudbytes.blogspot.com/2010/09/lance-armstrong-investigation-mcilvains.html
FRAUDBYTES
Stephanie McIlvain is reported to have met with the Grand Jury investigating Lance Armstrong's use of performance enhancing drugs. According to an article on VeloNation, McIlvain's attorney said that McIlvain told the Grand Jury that she had "no personal knowledge of Lance Armstrong using or taking performance-enhancing drugs." (As a side note, I wonder what definition they are using for the phrase "no personal knowledge." Does she have any impersonal knowledge? This reminds me of President Clinton's statement that it depends on how you define the word 'is.') McIlvain is also reported to have said that Greg LeMond's recordings of her talking about Lance's discussions in the hospital room were "gossip sessions that just weren't true." At the same time, Lance is saying that there was no conversation about doping in the hospital.
In the end, it sounds like McIlvain has taken her stand. If she is lying, she is gambling that Novitzky won't be able to prove she is. If McIlvain's testimony is the truth then it implies that Greg LeMond, Frankie Andreu and Betsy Andreu are all lying about this. Also, adding Lance's claim that there was no conversation implies that Frankie and Betsy are lying about two things: 1) that the conversation existed and 2) that Lance admitted to using PEDs and LeMond is lying about his conversation with McIlvain.
Time will tell whether Novitzky gets enough evidence to prove which of these individuals will serve time for perjury. Perhaps he won't be able to put any of them in jail and we will be left knowing only one thing for sure: someone is not telling the truth.
FROM YOUTUBE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dps1TpWfv54
The Abusive and disturbing voicemails
left for Betsy Andreu by Stephanie Mcllvain. IN AUDIO
Here is a very interesting Link:
ORAL AND VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF LANCE ARMSTRONG NOVEMBER 30, 2005
http://www.scribd.com/doc/31833754/Lance-Armstrong-Testimony
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/23/sportsline/main6893571.shtml
LOS ANGELES, Sept. 23, 2010.
Armstrong Never Said He Doped, Friend Testifies.
Stephanie McIlvain Tells Grand Jury She Never Heard Cyclist Admit He Used Performance-Enhancing Drugs.
A longtime friend of Lance Armstrong's told a federal grand jury that she never heard the cyclist admit he used performance-enhancing drugs, the woman's attorney said Wednesday.
Stephanie McIlvain, also a business associate of Armstrong's, appeared before the jury hearing evidence connected to allegations of doping in professional cycling during a daylong session.
"She testified that she had never heard Lance Armstrong say he had taken performance-enhancing drugs," said McIlvain's attorney, Thomas H. Bienert Jr.
The testimony contradicts claims by Armstrong rivals that he acknowledged using banned substances 14 years ago when he battling cancer.
Bienert said McIlvain had never been pressured by Armstrong or others to lie. She was Armstrong's liaison at sunglasses-maker Oakley during the cyclist's record seven Tour de France victories. Oakley has been a longtime Armstrong sponsor.
McIlvain was present in the hospital room where Armstrong was being treated for cancer in 1996, when former teammate Frankie Andreu and his wife, Betsy, claim the cyclist told doctors he used performance-enhancing drugs.
Armstrong vehemently denies that he cheated — or that he made such a statement — and McIlvain has previously testified in a civil case that she didn't hear Armstrong admit to doping in that conversation.
However, in a phone call secretly recorded by Tour winner and Armstrong critic Greg LeMond, McIlvain seemed to take a more ambiguous stance, saying that she heard the hospital conversation and would testify in a lawsuit if subpoenaed. However, she never said exactly what she heard.
Unauthorized versions of the LeMond-McIlvain conversation have long been available on various cycling websites.
Bienert said McIlvain was truthful when she told the jury that she never heard Armstrong admit that he doped.
"Any comments she made suggesting the contrary were simply gossip, speculation and opinion with people she thought were her friends, like Betsy Andreu," Bienert said.
Federal prosecutor Doug Miller declined comment after Wednesday's proceedings.
Betsy Andreu said earlier this month she spoke with Food and Drug Administration agent Jeff Novitzky about Armstrong, but declined to give details.
In an e-mail, Betsy Andreu accused McIlvain of lying under oath Wednesday. "Stephanie not only talked about Lance's use of performance-enhancing drugs with me and Frankie but with many others as well."
She said there will be "overwhelming" evidence to support her claims that Armstrong said he used performance-enhancing drugs.
Armstrong became a more important figure in the probe this spring after disgraced cyclist Floyd Landis dropped long-standing denials and admitted he used performance-enhancing drugs. In doing so, he accused Armstrong and others of systematic drug use. Landis won the Tour in 2006, but was stripped of his title for doping.
Plus This Article
http://fraudbytes.blogspot.com/2010/09/lance-armstrong-investigation-mcilvains.html
FRAUDBYTES
Stephanie McIlvain is reported to have met with the Grand Jury investigating Lance Armstrong's use of performance enhancing drugs. According to an article on VeloNation, McIlvain's attorney said that McIlvain told the Grand Jury that she had "no personal knowledge of Lance Armstrong using or taking performance-enhancing drugs." (As a side note, I wonder what definition they are using for the phrase "no personal knowledge." Does she have any impersonal knowledge? This reminds me of President Clinton's statement that it depends on how you define the word 'is.') McIlvain is also reported to have said that Greg LeMond's recordings of her talking about Lance's discussions in the hospital room were "gossip sessions that just weren't true." At the same time, Lance is saying that there was no conversation about doping in the hospital.
In the end, it sounds like McIlvain has taken her stand. If she is lying, she is gambling that Novitzky won't be able to prove she is. If McIlvain's testimony is the truth then it implies that Greg LeMond, Frankie Andreu and Betsy Andreu are all lying about this. Also, adding Lance's claim that there was no conversation implies that Frankie and Betsy are lying about two things: 1) that the conversation existed and 2) that Lance admitted to using PEDs and LeMond is lying about his conversation with McIlvain.
Time will tell whether Novitzky gets enough evidence to prove which of these individuals will serve time for perjury. Perhaps he won't be able to put any of them in jail and we will be left knowing only one thing for sure: someone is not telling the truth.
FROM YOUTUBE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dps1TpWfv54
The Abusive and disturbing voicemails
left for Betsy Andreu by Stephanie Mcllvain. IN AUDIOHere is a very interesting Link:
ORAL AND VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF LANCE ARMSTRONG NOVEMBER 30, 2005
http://www.scribd.com/doc/31833754/Lance-Armstrong-Testimony
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Oldman said:
People incorrectly assume that corporations like Oakley are even the slightest bit frightened by the prospect of a lawsuit from an employee like McIlvain.
Long-term, the responsibility actually rests with her for choosing to keep taking their money in exchange for silence. I do not feel bad for her. While she's always had a shiite sandwich in front of her face, the sandwich has grown in size as the years have progressed, and she has only herself to blame for not eating earlier.
Betsy Andreu Interview On Competitive Radio / Length 66.22 Minutes / Year 2007
At this Link : http://www.divshare.com/download/11444593-a4a
Betsy Andreu Interview On Irish Radio Part 1
At this Link : http://www.hark.com/clips/wwjhymfvjz-betsy-irishradio1
Betsy Andreu Interview On Irish Radio Part 2
At this Link : http://www.hark.com/clips/hndwxncygb-betsy-irishradio2
Betsy Andreu Interview On Irish Radio Part 3
At this Link : http://www.hark.com/clips/zxmydqqdgh-betsy-irishradio-3
Betsy Andreu Interview On Irish Radio Part 4
At this Link : http://www.hark.com/clips/rspcjxkfsh-betsy-irishradio4
Betsy Andreu Interview On Irish Radio Part 5
At this Link : http://www.hark.com/clips/dmrhgdnpyp-betsy-irishradio5
Ex-Friends Say Armstrong Admitted Drug Use
At this Link : http://www.hark.com/clips/kfsystwnsn-ex-friends-say-armstrong-admitted-drug-use
A Cleaned Up Version Of The Greg Lemond and Stephanie Mcllvain Tape Recorded Telephone Call / Recorded 2004
At this Link : http://www.hark.com/clips/gmfcrxygml-gregstef
At this Link : http://www.divshare.com/download/11444593-a4a
Betsy Andreu Interview On Irish Radio Part 1
At this Link : http://www.hark.com/clips/wwjhymfvjz-betsy-irishradio1
Betsy Andreu Interview On Irish Radio Part 2
At this Link : http://www.hark.com/clips/hndwxncygb-betsy-irishradio2
Betsy Andreu Interview On Irish Radio Part 3
At this Link : http://www.hark.com/clips/zxmydqqdgh-betsy-irishradio-3
Betsy Andreu Interview On Irish Radio Part 4
At this Link : http://www.hark.com/clips/rspcjxkfsh-betsy-irishradio4
Betsy Andreu Interview On Irish Radio Part 5
At this Link : http://www.hark.com/clips/dmrhgdnpyp-betsy-irishradio5
Ex-Friends Say Armstrong Admitted Drug Use
At this Link : http://www.hark.com/clips/kfsystwnsn-ex-friends-say-armstrong-admitted-drug-use
A Cleaned Up Version Of The Greg Lemond and Stephanie Mcllvain Tape Recorded Telephone Call / Recorded 2004
At this Link : http://www.hark.com/clips/gmfcrxygml-gregstef
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Just listening to the NPR story.... It mentions a guy by the name of James Start. Apparently he testified that McIlvain told him the hospital room incident really happened.
Not that it adds anything more than a stick to the fire, but I am just surprised that I hadn't heard the story before.
Not that it adds anything more than a stick to the fire, but I am just surprised that I hadn't heard the story before.
Dr. Maserati
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washedup said:
James part has been covered quite a few times - but it can often get lost when there are so many threads, here is an old post I wrote that covers most of the Hospital room incident.
Dr. Maserati said:
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washedup said:
Testified when? SCA or the recent GJ hearings?
The one good thing is that while McIlvaine can't go to jail for perjury at the SCA trial, she certainly can go to jail for perjury now. I sure hope someone DOES testify to that fact.
Also interesting is that we could very well have Greg Lemond testify that she told him that it really happened. That'd be sweet.
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off topic
Just doing a refresher with tapes, thanks to Monte Zoncolon. Actually one of Betsy speaking on Irish Radio.
3 minutes 15 seconds into this interview http://www.hark.com/clips/rspcjxkfsh-betsy-irishradio4
Betsy alleges that Vrijman is a friend of Hein Verbruggen. And from what I am lead to believe, Verbruggen and Armstrong are business partners. ... and here is me once thinking the UCI had a lot of credibility.
BTW, I don't think the UCI were invited to the meeting with Novitzky in Europe. ...all beginning to fall into place
Anyway WADA slam the report http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wada-slams-the-vrijman-report
cheers all
Just doing a refresher with tapes, thanks to Monte Zoncolon. Actually one of Betsy speaking on Irish Radio.
3 minutes 15 seconds into this interview http://www.hark.com/clips/rspcjxkfsh-betsy-irishradio4
Betsy alleges that Vrijman is a friend of Hein Verbruggen. And from what I am lead to believe, Verbruggen and Armstrong are business partners. ... and here is me once thinking the UCI had a lot of credibility.
BTW, I don't think the UCI were invited to the meeting with Novitzky in Europe. ...all beginning to fall into place
Anyway WADA slam the report http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wada-slams-the-vrijman-report
cheers all
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Dallas_ said:
Betsy is echoing what has been a fairly common allegation/statement.
The two have known each other at least back to 1999 where they both spoke on a panel and were published together.
Moreover, Jean Pitallier, president of the French Cycling Federation (FFC) is said to have suggested the connection and 'even made an issue of nationality, pointing out that Vrijman and former UCI president Hein Verbruggen are both Dutch.
Moreover, someone named 'Jean' has posted the connection on a number of cycling forums. References are found in both English and French.
Whether friend or not, the fact that Vrijman's career had been as a defense attorney defending high-profile athletes against doping charges should raise some eyebrows.
Dave.
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D-Queued said:
The report became good stick:
ON THE 1999 TESTS WHICH ALLEGEDLY CONTAINED EPO
"Well, the Vrijmen report cleared it up. We participated fully in the investigation, other parties did not. Even the newspaper that reported this, L’Equipe, said the athlete in question cannot defend himself because there are no samples to test. If that’s not there then I’m not sure it’s fair to accuse or to prosecute. But as I said, the matter has been cleared."
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...armstrong-press-conference-from-tenerife.html
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thehog said:
The lies flow effortlessly.....there are plenty left of those samples. Wonderboy could have easily had a DNA test run
Vrijman Is indeed friends with Verbruggen. He also has a long history of helping dopers escape sanction. After his actions were exposed he admited that he suplied Katrin Krabbe with false, plastic, doping kits in order to prove that the labs are not working correct and to challenge their credibility. Krabbe won the case because Vrijman proved that the labatory made mistakes in the procedure. He did this during his presidency of the Dutch national doping agency Necedo! Of course Krabbe later tested positive again and was suspended.
In the anti-doping community Vrijman is a joke. That Wonderboy continues to point to him as proof is laughable.
Race Radio said:
true.
and that the FEDs are needed (i.e. that in cycling no forces exist) to unmask this masquerade is deplorable.
BotanyBay said:
Slightly off-topic, but that's totally untrue. I work for a 70,000 employee organisation, and sit on disciplinary panels (I'm quite senior). We spend a LOT of time worrying about lawsuits. The economic damage is huge - these things swallow massive amounts of senior management time and legal fees - and they have serious implications for our brand. The headline "XYZ Corp F*cked Employee / Customer" is one we will go a long way to prevent appearing.
Sorry about that. Back to the tapes ...
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Race Radio said:
That media conference back in 2009 was a doozy.... some more choice bites here:
ON RUMOURS OF DOPING
"I don’t care about whispers. I’ve listened to whispers for more than a decade. I don’t spend a lot of time thinking about that. It doesn’t cause me to lose sleep, it doesn’t cause me to get distracted and it doesn’t cause me to get distracted from the things that I believe in most. I maintain I never doped in my life. I fully co-operated with the report.
"There’s nothing else I can do, other than repeating it or repeating it. I have made myself available, I sleep at night. I suffer no ill-effects from that. It would be tougher if partners and sponsors and people at my foundation left, but no one’s left. We have raised $300m in ten years. We’ve done amazing things. It’s hard to think ‘I got screwed in this deal’ because I haven’t."
ON HIS CANCER MISSION
"Studying the international burden of this disease, we realised there’s a place for the LiveStrong message around the world. Those two things came together. Johan was receptive to the idea. I came here as a volunteer. I am racing and training every day for free. It’s a global initiative, if I am second, third or eighth or 18th in the Tour that’s okay with me as long as the message gets out there."
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