Lesser Known Race Results 2020

[Squire]

That was impressive by Groenewegen. The in-form Holst Enger was blown off the wheel of Boasson Hagen, who in turn had no chance of holding Groenewegen's wheel.

 

[tobydawq]

Nicolas Edet initially got his first pro victory today in the Tour de l'Ain but was later relegated because he had taken an illegal path by going left through a round-about when he made his winning attack.

He wasn't particularly pleased about that and claims that the roadbook said that the roundabout could be taken both left and right.

Javier Moreno won the stage instead and said that it was clearly illegal what Edet did because a moto was parked in that part of the roundabout, indicating that riders should not take that route.

http://videosdecyclisme.fr/tour-de-lain-2018-etape2-nicolas-edet-declasse-video/

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

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Nicolas Edet initially got his first pro victory today in the Tour de l'Ain but was later relegated because he had taken an illegal path by going left through a round-about when he made his winning attack.

He wasn't particularly pleased about that and claims that the roadbook said that the roundabout could be taken both left and right.

Javier Moreno won the stage instead and said that it was clearly illegal what Edet did because a moto was parked in that part of the roundabout, indicating that riders should not take that route.

http://videosdecyclisme.fr/tour-de-lain-2018-etape2-nicolas-edet-declasse-video/

He tweeted a picture of it, Technically he was correct, either way the organisation *** up and should've left the victory to him.

 

[tobydawq]

Re: Re:

Nicolas Edet initially got his first pro victory today in the Tour de l'Ain but was later relegated because he had taken an illegal path by going left through a round-about when he made his winning attack.

He wasn't particularly pleased about that and claims that the roadbook said that the roundabout could be taken both left and right.

Javier Moreno won the stage instead and said that it was clearly illegal what Edet did because a moto was parked in that part of the roundabout, indicating that riders should not take that route.

http://videosdecyclisme.fr/tour-de-lain-2018-etape2-nicolas-edet-declasse-video/

He tweeted a picture of it, Technically he was correct, either way the organisation **** up and should've left the victory to him.

I agree to some degree. The roadbook says what he says it does but when a moto is placed by the organisation to block the left-hand turn, he shouldn't ignore it.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Re: Re:

Nicolas Edet initially got his first pro victory today in the Tour de l'Ain but was later relegated because he had taken an illegal path by going left through a round-about when he made his winning attack.

He wasn't particularly pleased about that and claims that the roadbook said that the roundabout could be taken both left and right.

Javier Moreno won the stage instead and said that it was clearly illegal what Edet did because a moto was parked in that part of the roundabout, indicating that riders should not take that route.

http://videosdecyclisme.fr/tour-de-lain-2018-etape2-nicolas-edet-declasse-video/

He tweeted a picture of it, Technically he was correct, either way the organisation **** up and should've left the victory to him.

I agree to some degree. The roadbook says what he says it does but when a moto is placed by the organisation to block the left-hand turn, he shouldn't ignore it.

But if you studied the roadbook and were intending on going that way and you see a moto when you're already heading that way you are not going to brake and throw away all your chances of winning.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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That was impressive by Groenewegen. The in-form Holst Enger was blown off the wheel of Boasson Hagen, who in turn had no chance of holding Groenewegen's wheel.

And he won again in the 4th stage, which was pretty hilly but not enough to drop the sprinters.

If he survives tomorrow I'd be surprised though, seems more like Hagen terrain

 

[tobydawq]

Re: Re:

Nicolas Edet initially got his first pro victory today in the Tour de l'Ain but was later relegated because he had taken an illegal path by going left through a round-about when he made his winning attack.

He wasn't particularly pleased about that and claims that the roadbook said that the roundabout could be taken both left and right.

Javier Moreno won the stage instead and said that it was clearly illegal what Edet did because a moto was parked in that part of the roundabout, indicating that riders should not take that route.

http://videosdecyclisme.fr/tour-de-lain-2018-etape2-nicolas-edet-declasse-video/

He tweeted a picture of it, Technically he was correct, either way the organisation **** up and should've left the victory to him.

I agree to some degree. The roadbook says what he says it does but when a moto is placed by the organisation to block the left-hand turn, he shouldn't ignore it.

But if you studied the roadbook and were intending on going that way and you see a moto when you're already heading that way you are not going to brake and throw away all your chances of winning.

True. The question if he really had studied it that thoroughly. I don't know if that's normal to do for a non-sprint stage.

But he says he has and I'm coming over to your side and starting to agree that he shouldn't have been relegated.

 

[PeterB]

Interesting info about Edet. But this is a no-win situation because if Edet keeps the win, others can say they were mislead by the parked moto.

The organizers made a big mistake by blocking that side of the roundabout if it was meant to be open according to the roadbook. Obviously there may be reason that you need to block some part of the road, but then they should have parked the moto at the entrance to that side, not in the middle when it's too late. Feeling sorry about Edet because it was apparently not him who caused the trouble.

 

[Squire]

Re: Re:

That was impressive by Groenewegen. The in-form Holst Enger was blown off the wheel of Boasson Hagen, who in turn had no chance of holding Groenewegen's wheel.

And he won again in the 4th stage, which was pretty hilly but not enough to drop the sprinters.

If he survives tomorrow I'd be surprised though, seems more like Hagen terrain

No chance for Groenewegen on those climbs.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Motor bike was by no means totally blocking the left side entrance to the roundabout. It was only impeding staying to the left of the left hand side. Did the motorbike rider not understand the concept that riders would choose to take the shortest route available to them?

Unjust demotion: if the organisers decide to change the instructions they have given earlier, it is their responsibility to make sure that the change is unequivocally clear and made so in a timely manner. That they failed to do so is not Edet's fault.

 

[Breh]

Greipel picks up a 2nd win at the Tour of Belgium with a flat.
Albasini and Jakobsen win in the Tour des Fjords.

 

[Samamba]

First pro win for Bjorg Lambrecht in the Tour des Fjords.
Albasini wins the GC.

https://twitter.com/flobikes/status/999686453050327041

 

[DFA123]

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First pro win for Bjorg Lambrecht in the Tour des Fjords.
Albasini wins the GC.

Just seen that result. Looks like from the result that Lambrecht beat Albasini and Boassen-Hagen in a gentle uphill sprint? :surprised:

 

[Samamba]

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First pro win for Bjorg Lambrecht in the Tour des Fjords.
Albasini wins the GC.

Just seen that result. Looks like from the result that Lambrecht beat Albasini and Boassen-Hagen in a gentle uphill sprint? :surprised:

Yeah, last km had a 5% gradient, with the last 300m at 8%. A finish that suits Lambrecht (pretty comparable to the Plumelec finish where he was 2nd at the EC in 2016).

 

[yaco]

A very impressive ride from Lambrecht - Great to see Albasini back to form as he I thought his star was waning - Anyway,. Albasini will try to sneak a stage at Suisse by hoping Sagan has a bad day.

 

[DFA123]

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First pro win for Bjorg Lambrecht in the Tour des Fjords.
Albasini wins the GC.

Just seen that result. Looks like from the result that Lambrecht beat Albasini and Boassen-Hagen in a gentle uphill sprint? :surprised:

Yeah, last km had a 5% gradient, with the last 300m at 8%. A finish that suits Lambrecht (pretty comparable to the Plumelec finish where he was 2nd at the EC in 2016).

That's really impressive. Is the feeling in Belgium that he'll develop into more of an Ardennes specialist than a stage racer at the moment?

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

W/e floats his boat I imagine but I would love to see a Belgian GC contendor. We have been all but spoiled these last few decennia.

 

[RedheadDane]

Okay, just went to check the result of the stage of the Tour of Belgium.
At first I was pretty impressed that Norman had managed to jump 45 places in the GC thanks to the Golden Kilometer.
Then I saw that Warnier had managed to jump 66 places.
Then I saw that Keukeleire had managed to jump 99 places!

Did those three just own the Golden Kilemeter, or what? :surprised:

 

[Flamin]

Wow Lambrecht, didn't see that coming this early.

Not sure what he'll become, a punchy climber or rather a well-climbing puncheur, but this is really impressive. Seems like we're about to witness a Belgian bowl of climbing talents finally opening up.

 

[RedheadDane]

So, what you're saying is that he - probably - will be either a punchy climber, or a climby puncheur?

 

[Samamba]

Re: Re:

First pro win for Bjorg Lambrecht in the Tour des Fjords.
Albasini wins the GC.

Just seen that result. Looks like from the result that Lambrecht beat Albasini and Boassen-Hagen in a gentle uphill sprint? :surprised:

Yeah, last km had a 5% gradient, with the last 300m at 8%. A finish that suits Lambrecht (pretty comparable to the Plumelec finish where he was 2nd at the EC in 2016).

That's really impressive. Is the feeling in Belgium that he'll develop into more of an Ardennes specialist than a stage racer at the moment?

Not sure tbh. I think he can develop into a Purito type of rider, so both (I'm not saying he will reach Purito's level obv). He has that punch at the end of a hill or mountain that can make him a real winner. He's a real lightweight though. His TT is absolute *** and he has troubles placing himself just before sprints or climbs. One small push from another rider and he immediately drops 20 places. Obviously that will get better with experience, but I fear that he will never be a decent TTer. It's also possible that he turns out to be more of an Alaphilippe type of rider, but in the u23 ranks he was definitely a better climber than Alaphilippe was back when he was in that category. Bernal was the only one who climbed consistently better than him, and we all know that that dude is from another planet.

His "partner in crime" Harm Vanhoucke will be a pure climber though. He will go pro after riding the Baby Giro (although he's having some fatigue problem right now) and the Tour de Savoie. I think he was the only u23 guy who was able to beat Bernal on a climb last year (first stage Savoie if I remember correctly). He's not the most consistent rider though, Lambrecht is.

 

[Flamin]

Re:

So, what you're saying is that he - probably - will be either a punchy climber, or a climby puncheur?

Yes. As far as I know he was a really good climber in the u23 but he'd regularly got good results/wins because of his explosive kick at the end. So it could go both ways.

 

[RedheadDane]

Re: Re:

So, what you're saying is that he - probably - will be either a punchy climber, or a climby puncheur?

Yes. As far as I know he was a really good climber in the u23 but he'd regularly got good results/wins because of his explosive kick at the end. So it could go both ways.

At which point do you go from one to the other?

 

[Flamin]

Re: Re:

So, what you're saying is that he - probably - will be either a punchy climber, or a climby puncheur?

Yes. As far as I know he was a really good climber in the u23 but he'd regularly got good results/wins because of his explosive kick at the end. So it could go both ways.

At which point do you go from one to the other?

What do you mean? I don't think you can already say he's either of one them.

 

[RedheadDane]

Re: Re:

So, what you're saying is that he - probably - will be either a punchy climber, or a climby puncheur?

Yes. As far as I know he was a really good climber in the u23 but he'd regularly got good results/wins because of his explosive kick at the end. So it could go both ways.

At which point do you go from one to the other?

What do you mean? I don't think you can already say he's either of one them.

Of course not. But those two seem like a mirror of each other, so... where's the difference?