Lesser Known Race Results 2020

[Beobachter]

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Ackermann got boxed in by his own teammate. Bennett's selfishness cost Bora a good chance of victory on home soil. I doubt that stupid move favors the Irishmans position on the team for next year!

Nice win for Walscheid though. That one came as a surprise.

Selfishness? They are sprinters. That’s their job. Unless one is ordered not to sprint, they will both try to win. If Bennett is allowed to sprint it’s not his problem to worry about Ackermann’s positioning. If Ackermann is allowed to sprint, it’s not his problem that the guy he is trying to barge through is his teammate. That’s why you don’t put two sprinters in the squad unless one is a lead out (and neither of them has any experience at that).

Which I doubt Bora's gonna do again after it ruined them a race that was in full control the whole day. Hence, why I talked about Bennett's position in the team, which might be downgraded to sprinter no. 3. Ackermann is the team's new starlet and seen as potential successor of Greipel in Germany. So he probably ends up with team leadership at the 2019 Giro d'Italia to rest himself against Viviani!

And that makes complete sense
Giro: Ackermann
Tour: Sagan
Vuelta: Bennett

 

[May0maniac]

A nice win for the big boy.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

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Ackermann got boxed in by his own teammate. Bennett's selfishness cost Bora a good chance of victory on home soil. I doubt that stupid move favors the Irishmans position on the team for next year!

Nice win for Walscheid though. That one came as a surprise.

Selfishness? They are sprinters. That’s their job. Unless one is ordered not to sprint, they will both try to win. If Bennett is allowed to sprint it’s not his problem to worry about Ackermann’s positioning. If Ackermann is allowed to sprint, it’s not his problem that the guy he is trying to barge through is his teammate. That’s why you don’t put two sprinters in the squad unless one is a lead out (and neither of them has any experience at that).

Which I doubt Bora's gonna do again after it ruined them a race that was in full control the whole day. Hence, why I talked about Bennett's position in the team, since Ackermann is the team's new sprint starlet and might end up with team leadership at the Giro d'Italia!

We agree that two sprinters on the same squad is a bad idea. What I disagreed with was your remark about Bennett’s “selfishness” being to blame. I’ve seen people on twitter taking the other side and blaming Ackermann for barging into Bennett. Both attitudes rest more or less on an assumption that one should be riding for the other, when in fact neither has any reason to ride for the other. Neither is a lead out. Both have good reasons to believe that they are in the top tier of sprinters. Both are on a team where Sagan gets the first pick of races already. Of course neither is going to abandon his sprint because the other guy is boxed in or in the way. So you don’t put them in the same team.

As for next year, it’s going to get messy. Bennett is the incumbent no 2 on the team and stepped forward again this year, winning multiple Giro stages and being probably the fastest sprinter there. But hes been out since winning Koln in June. Meanwhile Ackermann has been winning loads of races. Ultimately I think it will come down to certain pragmatic issues: Ackermann has two years on his contract, Bennett just one. Ackermann is potentially more helpful to the (German) sponsors. Ackermann is younger and yet to ride a GT, so more likely to continue accepting Sagan’s leftovers for longer. So Bennett is most likely to be squeezed next year and then to leave, which is sad as he and the team essentially developed together from their PCT days. Mind you, I think Ackermann will be out too once his contract ends. Sagan is there for the long haul and a top tier sprinter will not permanently accept no Tour and no MSR.

Bora are victims of their own sprinting success. They need a 2017 level Bennett and Ackermann as number 2 and 3. Instead they have the 2018 models both of whom know they would lead most other teams.

 

[tobydawq]

Bennett should have asked permission to leave the team after this season. Three world class sprinters is just too much and he is the one who will be squeezed.

 

[Squire]

Is the Sparkassen Münsterland race pan flat with serious crosswinds every year? It feels like it's always won from a small group, but there are always some very non-durable sprinters in the mix.

 

[staubsauger]

They've got some little bumps here in the Münsterland in the Baumberge, the area around Dülmen, where the Tower Barracks were located. Then, there are the foothills of the Teutoburg Forest in the Tecklenburger Land, close to Osnabrück Garrison, which are included occasionally as well. These hills often shake up the race a little bit early on. They've also added some more additional country roads in the closing kilometers as well this year. That's it nearly always ends up with a reduced bunch sprint.

This year indeed the group originally split due to crosswinds and mainly stayed away due to the country roads and the Schöppinger Berg. Although Gaviria and Boasson Hage made it back to the front ground in the end, but not without much power investment.

 

[Robert5091]

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And what the heck is going on with Gaviria?

Bored? :lol: Did he not know he was 2.5 km from the finish? Bizarre ... but chapeau Big Max & Sunweb!

What were Bora up to though? For a while I thought it would be Bouhanni/Laporte all over again.

 

[Robert5091]

Paris(Gien)-Bourges 190.3 km start 12.40 CET
start list at
https://twitter.com/PGienBourges/status/1047510820400324608

profile, map info at http://www.parisbourges.fr/iti.html

Twitter page at https://twitter.com/PGienBourges in French (mostly!)

Ticker - French language at https://www.directvelo.com/direct/3891/paris-bourges-2018

 

[Robert5091]

Follow today's Paris-Gien-Bourges at
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ParisBourges?src=hash

and Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/PGienBourges/

According to http://www.velo-club.net/post/680-paris-gien-bourges-la-presentation-detaillee

Streaming : la dernière heure et demie de course est annoncée sur le Facebook UBCC Paris Gien Bourges (lien ci-dessus).
Pas de retransmission TV, quelques images en principe dans le journal de FR3 Centre à 19 heures

Google translate gives us

Streaming: the last hour and a half of the race is announced on the Facebook UBCC Paris Gien Bourges (link above).
No TV broadcast, some images in principle in the FR3 Center newspaper (news program that should be) at 19 hours

 

[Robert5091]

6 man break with 3 min 20 sec with 106 km to go at Paris-Bourges - in the break
https://www.directvelo.com/direct/3891/paris-bourges-2018

David RIVIÈRE (Direct Energie), Joseph ARERUYA (Delko Marseille-Provence KTM), Pierre IDJOUADIENE (Roubaix-Lille Métropole), Lennert TEUGELS (Cibel-Cebon), Jarno MOBACH (Development Team Sunweb) & Tom VERMEER (Team Differdange-Losch)

 

[Tonton]

Re: Lesser Known Race Results 2018

Valentin Madouas, first pro win at Paris-Bourges. Chapeau, kid. Crazy finish.

 

[Robert5091]

Chapeau Valentin Madouas!
Attacked from the break with 1.6 km left to the finish and the peloton at just 15 sec back. Beat Coquard & Laporte to the line.

 

[Robert5091]

Saturday's Giro dell'Emilia start list at https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/giro-dell-emilia/2018/startlist/

PDF Roadbook at http://www.gsemilia.net/userfiles/files/Giro_Emilia_uomini_2018_web.pdf

Live TV (Rai, Eurosport, TV2 Denmark, L'Equipe) from 14.30 CET

Twitter feed at https://twitter.com/gsemilia

 

[Alexandre B.]

Tour de Vendée (direct live) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfVmIwRqoxY

20km to go, the peloton is in shreds.

 

[Alexandre B.]

Nico Denz (AG2R La Mondiale) wins.

He thought there was one lap left but the others began to sprint so he sprinted too.

 

[Squire]

This race has been brutal for the last two editions.

 

[Jancouver]

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Nico Denz (AG2R La Mondiale) wins.

He thought there was one lap left but the others began to sprint so he sprinted too.

That makes sense otherwise he would deserve a prize for the least excited winner ever

 

[RedheadDane]

Pretty quick thinking:
"Oh... the others are sprinting? I... better sprint too, then!"

 

[Robert5091]

Re: Lesser Known Race Results 2018

Gran Premio Bruno Beghelli 2018 today -
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features...ia-the-final-act-of-the-european-road-season/

A day after the Giro dell'Emilia, the fast men have an opportunity to show their quality in the same part of the world in the GP Bruno Beghelli, which takes place on a rather less demanding course. Starting and finishing in Monteveglio Valsamoggia, the course takes in ten laps of the Zappolini circuit, but with 8km from the final climb to the finish, it is difficult for late attackers to stay clear alone.

Luis Leon Sanchez (Astana) won last year's race and returns this season, while Sonny Colbrelli (Bahrain-Merida), Matteo Trentin (Mitchelton-Scott) and Jose Joaquin Rojas (Movistar) are among the fast men with an eye on victory.

startlist at http://www.gsemilia.net/userfiles/files/Beghelli2018partentiUomini.pdf

updates at Twitter page https://twitter.com/gsemilia or https://twitter.com/hashtag/GPBeghelli?src=hash and at http://www.gsemilia.net/a47_live.html nb! in Italian.

latest - at 12. 34 CET

Si è formato un gruppetto di 9 corridori al comando, che ha già 4'24" sul plotone. I componenti sono i seguenti: n. 133 Mas Bonet, 193 Kulikovskiy, 206 Ben Hermans, 236 Enrico Salvador. si stanno avvicinando i n. 123 Fabio Mazzucco, 166 Luca Raggio, 181 Marco Berardinetti, 212 Emil Dima, 224 Dario Puccioni.
Nel frattempo è partita la gara maschile, i corridori in gara sono 164, non sono partiti i n. 23 Romain Bardet (Ag2r La Mondiale) ed il n. 82 Davies Scott (Team Dimension Data).

A small group of 9 runners has formed, which already has 4'24 "on the platoon, with the following components: No. 133 Mas Bonet, 193 Kulikovskiy, 206 Ben Hermans, 236 Enrico Salvador. 123 Fabio Mazzucco, 166 Luca Raggio, 181 Marco Berardinetti, 212 Emil Dima, 224 Dario Puccioni.
Meanwhile the men's race has started, the riders in the race are 164, the no. 23 Romain Bardet (Ag2r La Mondiale) and no. 82 Davies Scott (Team Dimension Data).

No Bardet - tired probably & Scott crashed yesterday.

 

[Robert5091]

Landa has abandoned after a crash - hope it's not serious.

Edit from Movistar's twitter - https://twitter.com/Movistar_Team/status/1048902083230019584

En la parte inicial del #GPBeghelli ha abandonado por caída @MikelLandaMeana. El alavés de Movistar Team ha sufrido un golpe en la espalda, aunque sin consecuencias serias, y ha decidido no continuar por precaución tras los incidentes que le ocurrieron durante el verano.

Google translate

In the initial part of the #GPBeghelli has abandoned by falling @MikelLandaMeana. The Alavés of Movistar Team has suffered a blow to the back, although without serious consequences, and has decided not to continue as a precaution after the incidents that occurred during the summer.

 

[Robert5091]

9 men have 4 mins 35 secs with 6 laps left 80 km -
http://www.gsemilia.net/a47_live.html

Luis Mas (Caja Rural), Alexandr Kulikovskiy (Gazpro Rusvelo), Ben Hermans (Israel Cycling Academy), Enrico Salvador (Biesse Gavardo Carrera), Fabio Mazzucco (Naz. Italia), Luca Raggio (Wilier Triestina Selle Italia), Marco Bernardinetti (Amore & Vita – Prodir), Emil Dima (MS Tina – Focus) & Dario Puccioni (Sangemini MG K Vis)

Update - Superman has gone of the front with 65 km left!

Dal gruppo sono usciti Andrey Grivko e Miguel Angel Lopez, entrambi dell'Astana. Hanno 3'10" di ritardo dai 9 al comando. Gruppo a 4' dalla testa della corsa. Mancano 65 km all'arrivo.

Andrey Grivko and Miguel Angel Lopez, both from Astana, came out of the group. They have 3'10 "of delay from the 9 to the lead, a 4 'group from the head of the race, 65 km to go.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Mollema wins!

 

[Laplaz]

TGBM

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Great stuff, Mollema! Congrats.

 

[wirral]

I need to see the last 20 kms