Lesser Known Road Racing for Women Thread

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The second edition of the Trofeo Ponente in Rosa, which has stepped up to UCI level this season, starts today. It was supposed to have opened with a short stage this morning, but it got cancelled due to safety issues. It seems like the remaining five stages will all go ahead as planned.

The race is sadly not televised, but there might be highlights available afterwards.
The route looks pretty good, and there will be a decent seletion of non-WWT riders + the full podium from the 2020/21 Olympic MTB race.

Start list: https://firstcycling.com/race.php?r=17279&y=2023&k=8

The first stage is a 15.6 km TTT, which petty must consists of the final of Milano-Sanremo, but without Cipressa, Poggio and the Via Roma finish. Probably the closest the women have gotten to an actual MSR since the last edition of Primavera Rosa in 2005, although there has been talk about RCS organising a proper one in the future.

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Stage 2 has the Bivio Magliolo (6.5 km, 6.5%) midway through it, which might blow up the race, while stage 3 is a light of version of Trofeo Laigueglia. Stage 4 includes both Capo Mele and Capo Cervo, which will both be ridden in the beginning and at the end of the stage, with some longer climbs in-between.

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Stage 5 is the queen stage of the race with three tough climbs (Monte Croce/Passo Balestrino, Passo del Ginestro and Passo Grillarine). This is where the better climbers will need to get rid of Silvia Zanardi, who may very well be leading the race at this point.

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Fantastic to see that the legend of the Italian GPM continues. The location of the GPM on stage 4 and the difference between the two categorised climb - as well as the climb going uncategorised - on stage 5 are pure classic Italian race mountains classification tradition.
 
So the UAE devo team won the TTT which puts Yuliia Biriukova in a good position. I guess the main team was already full when they signed her, but it wouldn't have been outrageous if she had ended up on a WWT team after the season she had last year.


The third GP Oetingen takes place tomorrow and it will be live streamed here:
 
So now both GP Oetingen and the stage in Italy and possibly the rest of the race have been cancelled :cry:

Hopefully bad weater or organisational problems won't strike the Drenthe races and the Vuelta Extremadura during the weekend. The moutain stage planned for Sunday looks decent.

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from the Cofidis Women's Spanish Cup/VII Noja Trophy - the rider thankfully seemed to end up being dq'd & the other two seem to be fine.

results can be found here

From experience, Masters can sometimes be the most obnoxious and egocentrical kind of athletes that exist. Not only in cycling but in other sports as well.

Never forget the first local MTB marathon event I took part, where due to my lack of technical skills I made sure I entered the trails in the last positions to not be a nuissance to anyone who was aiming for a result, and still got almost pushed out of the single trails by masters who started last in order to be able to pass as many riders as they could.
 
Well from what I can gather shes a triathlete & late convert to cycling so maybe shes a bit inexperienced & just reacted badly to a situation that didn't need reacting to.

meanwhile: 'Stage 2 cancelled due to last minute no permission of the community '

HOW DO YOU MANAGE THIS??

It’s still chaos for the second edition of the women’s cycling “Ponente in Rosa” Trophy, reserved for elite athletes, a stage race scheduled on the roads of western Savona until 11 March.
Yesterday the ban on the sporting event by the Province of Savona due to the lack of safety conditions along the routes, with the cancellation of the first half-stage (the Ceriale-Ceriale) scheduled for today, as well as for the 2nd stage (Diano Marina – Marina di Loano), the 3rd stage (Pietra Ligure – Laigueglia) and the 4th stage (San Bartolomeo – Diano Marina, with passages in Albenga, Alassio and Laigueglia), which have not received the authorization and the green light from of the provincial body, which has remained in contact with the same Prefecture regarding the provisions on the same road system.
In particular, the Municipalities of Alassio, Loano and Finale Ligure raised the safety issue regarding the routes indicated by the Loabikers organization, also with direct reference to the personnel dedicated to the gates and intersections along the route. And so yesterday the cold shower just a few hours before the start of the awaited cycling race-
Instead, the 5th stage was authorized, with start and finish in Diano Marina, scheduled for Saturday 11 March, but the Savona area was in fact impoverished by the international level sporting event and capable of bringing most of the best cyclists to the Savona area worldwide.
Now the effort of the organized machine is aimed at trying to save the 3rd and 4th stages of the programme, but it will be difficult considering the situation and the possible changes that could be made in extremis.
The stage race has been and/or will be reduced to a minimum after discussions started with the relevant bodies and competent bodies. And there is certainly no shortage of controversy over what happened in an event presented and sponsored by the Liguria Region itself. Forms and organizational methods were targeted, with a lack of coordination between the municipal realities involved and the timing of the “Cesarini area” which led to road assessments and therefore to the cancellation of the cycling race.

 
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Wow. And I thought the Giro della Toscana a few years ago, when almost everybody withdrew on the last day and Ivano Fanini started calling riders cowards for not racing on roads that couldn't be secured from road traffic (a bitter irony in a race named for his daughter who died in a car accident), was a trainwreck.
 
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Now it looks like the three remaining stages will be raced, but they have had to change/shorten them, Let's hope they do go ahead without any further issues. Races like this with challenging terrain, but wihtout the very best riders present, can be important for the development of the riders, so it would be a shame for them if it got cancelled completely.

Indergand and Neff probably won't be riding a lot on the road this year, but I've seen that Frei is meant to ride Trofeo Binda for SD Worx next week (according to the Specialized Factory Racing), so she could use a bit of race training as well.

They've uploaded highlights from the TTT.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZULoLRXuEKI&ab_channel=ToscanaSprint
 
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After the cancellation of the first half-stage (the Ceriale-Ceriale) scheduled for today, also the 2nd stage (Diano Marina - Marina di Loano), the 3rd stage (Pietra Ligure - Laigueglia) and the 4th stage (San Bartolomeo - Diano Marina) have not received the authorization to pass on the roads of the Savona area.

The Province of Savona has confirmed the refusal to carry out the competition, organized by Loabikers with the patronage of the Liguria Region and reserved for elite athletes, also for the next appointments - as happened on the occasion of the inaugural test - after the perplexities expressed by some police local (Alassio, Loano and Finale Ligure) regarding the safety issue.

The reason for this decision? The lack of a sufficient number of personnel to supervise the gates and intersections on the route, brought to the attention of the Province. A problem that convinced the institution not to issue the authorization for the smooth running of the race. Instead, the 5th stage was authorised, with start and finish in Diano Marina, scheduled for Saturday 11 March.

A hard blow for the organizers of an international event capable of bringing most of the best female cyclists in the world to the Savona area.

"We will try to make up for the third and fourth stage - the comment by Piernicola Pesce of Loabikers who in fact confirms that tomorrow, March 8, there will be no racing - After the first refusal we had changed the route of the remaining stages, but probably the Municipalities were sent the previous versions. There was a mix-up with the Province, tomorrow's stage should have started from Albenga".


But as Samu said, there should be racing tomorrow...they just won't find out until the morning.

 
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So today's stage did go ahead and Neff won solo ahead 10 rider group, where Alessia Vigilia, who won the Umag Trophy last week, and Federica Piergiovanni, who must have taken over the overall lead now, were the fastest.
 
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Women's Tour of Britain route has been announced for this year. Some stages or starts and finishes from past years such as Stratford to Leamington, and Northampton. Knowing the races that have happened across the North York Moors in the past, stage 3 i'd assume will be the deciding factor. Also there are quite long transfers between Ampthill and Dalby Forest and then Guisborough and Coleshill, though I don't think they're as bad as some of the Vuelta Femenina ones this year. Also why a circuit race?!
View: https://twitter.com/thewomenstour/status/1633814651178721280?s=20
 
Women's Tour of Britain route has been announced for this year. Some stages or starts and finishes from past years such as Stratford to Leamington, and Northampton. Knowing the races that have happened across the North York Moors in the past, stage 3 i'd assume will be the deciding factor. Also there are quite long transfers between Ampthill and Dalby Forest and then Guisborough and Coleshill, though I don't think they're as bad as some of the Vuelta Femenina ones this year. Also why a circuit race?!
View: https://twitter.com/thewomenstour/status/1633814651178721280?s=20

It's a shame there's no ITT, but that's of course not just an issue for this race. I have to see the stage profiles before I can judge the route, but it's a bit worrying that they still can't attract a title sponsor and currently lack a lot of other sponsors, too.
 
It's a shame there's no ITT, but that's of course not just an issue for this race. I have to see the stage profiles before I can judge the route, but it's a bit worrying that they still can't attract a title sponsor and currently lack a lot of other sponsors, too.
The whole of British bike racing is pretty bad right now with a skeleton national series, grass roots events struggling and the Tour Series (organised by Sweetspot like the Tours of Britain) cancelled this year.
 
Why a circuit race? Its cheaper. Also makes it more likely I'll attend this year.

yep basically easier to contain a course route, presumably cheaper to meet their live broadcast commitments too, if they wish to retain WWT level, though at this stage and the way they are talking not sure there will be a race next year, even this year seems a bit touch & go still.

plus as always its down to which councils are prepared to provide the money to host a start and finish, presumably Birmingham has some legacy cash from the Commonwealth games they wanted to spend, at least its not another stage at Cyclopark.

not sure if Ill bother with it though to be frank, I went to crit stage in London, and it was only on par with a tour series event and its a multi hour trip there and back for me at least, if I was local Id probably head over.

but are we politely ignoring the race has shrunk a stage ? UCI originally had it 5th to the 10th, ie at least 6 stages, now its 7th to 11th with only 5.
 
stage 4 starts right outside Birmingham as well, so they probably didn't wan two days of disruptions to the local residents.

It is a bit bizarre, a domestic scene in a slump yet participation & viewership seems ever increasing.
 
but are we politely ignoring the race has shrunk a stage ? UCI originally had it 5th to the 10th, ie at least 6 stages, now its 7th to 11th with only 5.
It's ok, the race seems to get a lot more rope than anyone else. They got away with failing the broadcast commitments and kept their status when others were downgraded, and the voices that were shouting about other races were begging for fans to give the Women's Tour some leeway and not criticise it too harshly for its failings.

I've always found it frustrating that they can't show the stage profiles when they release the course, but then the Tour de France does that. If I'm honest, the route looks like it will be an absolute turd; stage 1 is in a very flat area, stage 2 is in a flat area that hopefully will have a couple of small hills like stage 2 of the 2018 edition but we can't really hope for much more, stage 4 finishes in a city which has some good climbs in at least OK distance, but on the wrong side of the city for where they'll be approaching so that will limit what they can do, and stage 5 is going to be a featureless inner city circuit race around a city which doesn't have any hills in it.

It's therefore highly liable to be dependent on the parcours of stage 3 and while Guisborough doesn't have much by way of significant climbing in the immediate vicinity, there's definitely the scope to include the likes of Egton Cliff close-ish to the finish, hell in theory either Blakey Bank or Rosedale Chimney Bank could be included and would likely be pretty selective around 20km from the line. If this stage is disappointing, we're in for a 2014-15/2018 bonus second fiesta that really isn't becoming of a race with the status and the ambitions of grandeur that the Women's Tour has. If this stage is good, there's a good chance that it will at least give us something interesting on stage 3. The Women's Tour started out with top drawer presentation and although the parcours was pretty underwhelming (and did suffer from the same problem as the men's Tour of Britain, of judging difficulty in absolutes in terms of the amount of climbing without sufficient attention paid to where in the race those obstacles were, leading to poorly-designed, sprint-heavy races), there was the definite feeling that they were trying to build something, especially once they started introducing better stages and we got editions like 2016 and 2019 which were pretty good races, they started introducing HTFs and TTs, and varied the race. But now the coverage has stagnated and become decidedly second-rate in the face of the massive progress made in the decade the race has been running; and the race organisation and design has not just stalled but regressed, making the race very passé. They came to the sport with the intention of making the biggest women's race and an event that would really stand out... and while at first they had the foundations of it... that's still all they have and in that time others have built whole houses. It wasn't even Tour of California-like delusions of grandeur. Their aims were not unrealistic or unachievable like Messick's. But that just makes it more disappointing when we are delivered a fairly middling stage race with no distinct characteristics, which has a tendency to see a lot of crashes and a lot of GC riders have stopped even contesting.

At least no to-formula East Anglian stage this year, I like that they reward the area for its support but ever since the 2017 miscalculation they don't even let a break form and when they arranged a stage which literally rode past the toughest climb in Suffolk and avoided another climb just 15km from the finish before delivering another dangerous and crash-marred finale on stage 1 last year I came to the conclusion that they aren't going to investigate what few, paltry opportunities there are for racing in the area (there genuinely are some, but you wouldn't know it from any of the races that have been there) so it's best if they just go somewhere else which will at least be halfway new. The bad news is they look like they're starting in similar fashion, just putting the featureless opening stage in a different geographical area.

I mean, even if stage 3 is really good, there's a likelihood it's a one-stage race... but that would still give us one really good stage, you know? Plus also the fact Yorkshire is back on the agenda speaks to two things, one positive and one negative. Firstly this means that the parcours opportunities (that the organisers will likely ignore if precedent is anything to go by) are vastly increased for at least increased variety in the parcours; but on the other hand this also means the Tour de Yorkshire is almost certainly gone for good.
 
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