Lesser Known Road Racing for Women Thread

[Libertine Seguros]

Esra Tromp named general manager of the new EF Pro Cycling women’s team | EF Pro Cycling

Dutch former cyclist brings six years' managerial experience to EF Education-Cannondale

efprocycling.com

EF Education to start their own women's team.....

Cool, let's see who Vaughters steals funds from it to sign this time. Stannard or Gazzoli perhaps, or does he swing for the fences on Supermán?

 

[RedheadDane]

Esra Tromp named general manager of the new EF Pro Cycling women’s team | EF Pro Cycling

Dutch former cyclist brings six years' managerial experience to EF Education-Cannondale

efprocycling.com

EF Education to start their own women's team.....

What? Isn't the current Women's EF team already part of the same organisation as the Men's EF team?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

What? Isn't the current Women's EF team already part of the same organisation as the Men's EF team?

EF is only a sponsor of the team, while the founder Linda Jackson is still owner. Much like how Natascha den Ouden is still the owner owner of AGI-SQS. But it seems EF Pro Cycling haven't been satisfied with the current deal and haven't been able to convince Jackson to hand over full control of the team.

Hopefully this means Jackson thinks she has a chance to keep the team alive with new sponsors. The new EF team won't be a WWT team, unless they either manage to buy Jackson's license or the one left over from the Liv/Jayco merger.

 

[ManicJack]

Cool, let's see who Vaughters steals funds from it to sign this time. Stannard or Gazzoli perhaps, or does he swing for the fences on Supermán?

Talk about stealing funds. Where do you think the SVB $ came from. That SVB CEO guy is scum.

 

[RedheadDane]

EF is only a sponsor of the team, while the founder Linda Jackson is still owner. Much like how Natascha den Ouden is still the owner owner of AGI-SQS. But it seems EF Pro Cycling haven't been satisfied with the current deal and haven't been able to convince Jackson to hand over full control of the team.

So, less of a connection than between the Uno-X teams, but still some sort of connection?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

So, less of a connection than between the Uno-X teams, but still some sort of connection?

Definitely much more of a connection than between the two FDJ teams.
They actually share things with each other (maybe even hypnosis chambers).

 

[Izzyeviel]

wait, fdj suez & fdj groupama aren't closely related?

 

[RedheadDane]

wait, fdj suez & fdj groupama aren't closely related?

Nope.
Well, according to the English Wikipedia page for FDJ-Suez they are, but I'm pretty sure that's outdated.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Nope.
Well, according to the English Wikipedia page for FDJ-Suez they are, but I'm pretty sure that's outdated.

The team had existed for years before FDJ joined as a sponsor, but as we've seen with other teams, it wouldn't have stopped them from being closer connected. It doesn't seem like there's an interest though. Madiot wasn't exactly a fan of women's cycling in the 80s, but I don't know how he feels about it now.

 

[Izzyeviel]

Right, someone needs to come up with a list of which teams are actually related & which ones are misleading the fans.

Same team: Lidl Trek, DSM, Cofidis, ???

Faux teams: EF, FDJ ????

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Right, someone needs to come up with a list of which teams are actually related & which ones are misleading the fans.

Same team: Lidl Trek, DSM, Cofidis, ???

Faux teams: EF, FDJ ????

Same team: Movistar, JV, UAE-ADQ, UNO-X, Fenix-Deceuninck, HPH, St Michel - Mavic - Auber93, Lotto Dstny, Arkéa

Faux teams: AGI-SQS, IPT-Roland

But I wouldn't call it misleading the fans, since both the EF team, AGI-SQS and IPT-Roland have ties to the men's teams (some closer than others), but just have different owners.

 

[ManicJack]

Lidl Trek are definitely both owned by Trek Bikes. MTB teams also

 

[Axel Hangleck]

Lidl Trek are definitely both owned by Trek Bikes. MTB teams also

Yes, all part of TFR (Trek Factory Racing) hence most of the same major sponsors/suppliers Sram, Pirelli, Santini. I thought it was a shame that the MTB teams weren't included with the Lidl sponsorship.......

 

[yaco]

Same team: Movistar, JV, UAE-ADQ, UNO-X, Fenix-Deceuninck, HPH, St Michel - Mavic - Auber93, Lotto Dstny, Arkéa

Faux teams: AGI-SQS, IPT-Roland

But I wouldn't call it misleading the fans, since both the EF team, AGI-SQS and IPT-Roland have ties to the men's teams (some closer than others), but just have different owners.

You forgot Jayco Alula which are the same team.

 

[RedheadDane]

The team had existed for years before FDJ joined as a sponsor, but as we've seen with other teams, it wouldn't have stopped them from being closer connected. It doesn't seem like there's an interest though. Madiot wasn't exactly a fan of women's cycling in the 80s, but I don't know how he feels about it now.

You remember Madiot's attitudes in the 80s? Well, that makes you old!

Right, someone needs to come up with a list of which teams are actually related & which ones are misleading the fans.

Same team: Lidl Trek, DSM, Cofidis, ???

Faux teams: EF, FDJ ????

I wouldn't call FDJ-Suez a faux team. They're not claiming to be connected to the men's team.

 

[Wyndbrook]

You remember Madiot's attitudes in the 80s? Well, that makes you old!



I wouldn't call FDJ-Suez a faux team. They're not claiming to be connected to the men's team.

We are all young here.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

You remember Madiot's attitudes in the 80s? Well, that makes you old!

It was before my time, but there's a famous clip from French tv where he says to Jeannie Longo, that women shouldn't be riding bikes, because it made them look unfeminine or whatever.

 

[Izzyeviel]

You forgot Jayco Alula which are the same team.

Everyone forgets Jayco...

You remember Madiot's attitudes in the 80s? Well, that makes you old!



I wouldn't call FDJ-Suez a faux team. They're not claiming to be connected to the men's team.

I was being tongue in cheek. Tbh, I honestly thought they were the same team, you'd have thought the different kit would've given it away....

 

[RedheadDane]

I was being tongue in cheek. Tbh, I honestly thought they were the same team, you'd have thought the different kit would've given it away....

The two Trek teams also used to have slightly different kits before Lidl came on board.

 

[awavey]

So Annemiek has announced her last two races will be Tour of Scandinavia and then finishes at home with the Simac Ladies Tour

 

[Samu Cuenca]

So Annemiek has announced her last two races will be Tour of Scandinavia and then finishes at home with the Simac Ladies Tour

Well Iguess I pretty much have to attend the Danish stages of Tour of Scandinavia then.

 

[RedheadDane]

GP Oetingen is on today, after it was cancelled on its original (8/3) date due to snow.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Simone Boilard takes her first pro win in Oetingen.
Evy Kuijpers wasn't that far from coming back in the end, but the win wasn't in danger. Maaike Boogaard finished third.

 

[RedheadDane]

Niedermaier won stage 1 in l'Avenir, ahead Shackley and Van Anrooij.

 

[yaco]

It's a joke that the first 8 in the ITT are part of the WT peleton - They should not be in the race.