Liège-Bastogne-Liège 2023, one day monument, April 23 (men's)

[Elos Anjos]

Any cyclist in DBZ would be far below Yamcha at best.

Sorry, I forgot to add that Pogacar is a Goku in his teenage years. Back when Yamcha seemed to poise a worthy challenge.

 

[tobydawq]

Sorry, I forgot to add that Pogacar is a Goku in his teenage years. Back when Yamcha seemed to poise a worthy challenge.

Is the analogy that Remco peaked as early as him?

 

[Berflamand]

weather will play a big role

Can the wind play an important role on a race like LBL?

Because otherwise it doesn't look so bad to me: https://www.buienradar.be/weer/luik/be/2792413/5daagse

Around 15°C and a chance of some smaller rain showers. Or am I underestimating it?

 

[Elos Anjos]

Is the analogy that Remco peaked as early as him?

The analogy is that we are under the illusion that Pogacar has any match. Although he can loose some battles like Goku did.

 

[tobydawq]

The analogy is that we are under the illusion that Pogacar has any match. Although he can loose some battles like Goku did.

Oh. I don't agree there, I'm afraid.

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

When I saw how Remco became WC last year, I‘m not so sure that he has no chance against Pogi.

Remco was extremely strong, and beat strongmen like Laporte by minutes.

I also think Remco has gained some explosiveness. And he could ride a very long sprint with a monster gear.

 

[Panda Claws]

Sorry, I forgot to add that Pogacar is a Goku in his teenage years. Back when Yamcha seemed to poise a worthy challenge.

We'll see

 

[Bonimenier]

If Evenepoel wins, it will mean Pogacar is already on the decline after a long spring.
If Pogacar wins, it will mean Evenepoel is yet to hit his peak for the Giro.

Really not worth watching the race.

 

[limak_]

Remco was extremely strong, and beat strongmen like Laporte by minutes.

Can you tell us more about Laporte's physique?

 

[Peyroteo94]

When I saw how Remco became WC last year, I‘m not so sure that he has no chance against Pogi.

Remco was extremely strong, and beat strongmen like Laporte by minutes.

I also think Remco has gained some explosiveness. And he could ride a very long sprint with a monster gear.

Comparing Laporte with Pogacar is like comparing a Ferrari with a Twingo (sorry Shakira).

 

[Elos Anjos]

Remco bad, Pogacar stronk! Quality post.

You must be Oolong in DBZ.

 

[limak_]

If Evenepoel wins, it will mean Pogacar is already on the decline after a long spring.
If Pogacar wins, it will mean Evenepoel is yet to hit his peak for the Giro.

Really not worth watching the race.

On what you base your opinion that if both are in top form then they're equal?

Honestly, I can't see Evenepoel dropping this shape Pogacar on a 2k climb (even if he's past his spring peak) nor outsprinting him.

 

[Bonimenier]

On what you base your opinion that if both are in top form then they're equal?

Honestly, I can't see Evenepoel dropping this shape Pogacar on a 2k climb (even if he's past his spring peak) nor outsprinting him.

Where did you read that opinion?

 

[Didinho]

The course was changed compared to last year. They don't go all the way to the top of La Redoute, but take another road 400 m earlier. Two smaller climbs come between La Redoute and La Roche. Côte des Forges has been in it before.

That means La Redoute is now 1.6 km @ 9.4%. Last year it was 2 km @ 8.6%. So the steepest part is still in it. It's a debatable choice by the organizers, because the shorter distance and the two smaller climbs in between seem to make a decisive attack on La Redoute less likely. We'll see what it gives on Sunday.

It was because of road works after the Redoute, so they can't take the normal route down.
And I think they will attack sooner, maybe on the duo Stockeu and Haute-Levée with 75km to go. To get out of the nervous peloton with a strong group or so.

All the talk about Remco vs Pogi but we all know Kragh Andersen will win.

 

[Gratemans]

If Evenepoel wins, it will mean Pogacar is already on the decline after a long spring.
If Pogacar wins, it will mean Evenepoel is yet to hit his peak for the Giro.

Really not worth watching the race.

Well done. This is what the next 10 pages of this thread right after the finish will be in two sentences.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Well done. This is what the next 10 pages of this thread right after the finish will be in two sentences.

Somebody else already made the same assessment last week. And it was equally false.

If Evenepoel wins he will still have to hit his peak for the Giro while Pogacar was in top shape as shown in Amstel and Flèche.
If Pogacar wins he was already declining after a long spring while Evenepoel was already in Giro form.

Always go for the double negative whammy.

 

[limak_]

Where did you read that opinion?

You assumed that one's win may be only explained by him not being in his peak.

Pogacar's win won't be a result of Evenepoel being undercooked. And looking at Pogacar's acheivements this spring imho on Sunday he'll be still close to his top shape.

 

[topcat]

If Evenepoel wins, it will mean Pogacar is already on the decline after a long spring.
If Pogacar wins, it will mean Evenepoel is yet to hit his peak for the Giro.

Really not worth watching the race.

Whoever wins is the next Merckx. Welcome to the clown show.
I think they will both be at their best.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Whoever wins is the next Merckx. Welcome to the clown show.
I think they will both be at their best.

Unless it's Evenepoel, then there will be a new test.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

According to Feltet, Landa is equally likely to win as Evenepoel. I can only assume Landa has secretly been working on his sprint.

 

[dobrien]

Whoever wins is the next Merckx. Welcome to the clown show.
I think they will both be at their best.

If Remco is at his best at LBL he and/or his team have screwed up royally. He needs to be at his best the last week of May.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Meh, they should have made the Remco on the poster a lot chonkier. After all the race was won by 2022 spring Remco...

 

[Potomac]

I want to see Pog sweep the week

 

[firefly3323]

I just hope Powless can avoid making it a three race streak.....not be caught in a crash

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

Can you tell us more about Laporte's physique?

Yeah, that‘s a strongman…

I though strongman/strongmen is quite common in writing about pro cycling?… Riders like Kristoff, WVA or Laporte are called „strongmen“, thereafter…