Since the tour from last year it was obvious that team was real shady, i don't know how that team was viewed before that though
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therhodeo said:What kind of legal trouble could he be in with french authorities?
If two Riders and/or other Persons within a Team registered with the UCI are notified within a twelve-month period of an Adverse Analytical Finding for a Prohibited Method or a Prohibited Substance that is not a Specified Substance, or receive notice of an asserted anti-doping rule violation arising from an Adverse Passport Finding or Atypical Passport Finding after a review under Article 7.5 or other asserted anti-doping rule violation as perArticles 2.5, 2.6, 2.7, 2.8, 2.9 or 2.10, the Team shall be suspended from participation in any International Event for a period determined by the President of the UCI Disciplinary Commission or a member of the Disciplinary Commission, taking into account all the circumstances of the case. The suspension shall not be less than 15 days and not more than 45 days.
feel sad for mondory.neineinei said:If UCI finds another positive among the AG2R riders the team will not only get to read up on the MPCC self suspension rule again, they will also get to say hello to UCI's new rule:
grizzlee said:Anger and frustration also leads to the dark side young skywalker!
sniper said:feel sad for mondory.
couldn't resort to cortisone because of mpcc, so had to resort to old school epo. then gets busted for epo, while non-mpcc members beat him at the finish line geared on cortisone.
of course you are right.nayr497 said:Is cortisone related to speed? I thought the main benefits were a reduction in swelling, less pain, etc.
EPO seems more directly related to speed/oxygen carrying.
sniper said:of course you are right.
but i seem to notice that many (most?) of the recent positives have been from MPCC members.
which made me speculate, maybe they have to compensate for not being allowed to go on cortisone.
More Strides than Rides said:Given that MPCC has a "cooling off" period after detecting low cortisol levels, and the fact that "getting caught" is not actually getting caught, surely EPO is still more risky?
sniper said:yeah, i think you're right, and/or i was not making sense.
it would be good to concisely summarize the rules wrt cortisone (a) in competition and (b) out of competition, and how the rules for MPCC members differ from rules for other teams.
I'll look it up later, or maybe somebody is in the know?
. So no TUE required for every other method. (above Table pasted poorly...)All glucocorticoids are prohibited when administered by oral, intravenous, intramuscular or rectal routes.
ntra-articular corticosteroid injections have to be validated by the team doctor, who will prescribe eight days off-race
n the event of collapsing cortisol levels, eight rest days are to be prescribed (waiting for normal blood tests results)
nayr497 said:Is cortisone related to speed? I thought the main benefits were a reduction in swelling, less pain, etc.
EPO seems more directly related to speed/oxygen carrying.
armchairclimber said:I like the reaction of Bardet.
Tonton said:And many, starting with the French cycling fans, are now looking at AG2R's great '14 TdF in a very different light.
Big Doopie said:anyone check out nibali and cancellera's responses to the CIRC. might as well have been holding up posters for omerta and doping.
filipo said:OT, but damn did Cancellara's response annoy me. "My entire profession has been described as a criminal enterprise, but you except me to pay attention?"
Dooooche
good example, cheers.posted by Catwhoorg
As an example of the vast gulf between them.
I have a sore knee, and go to the docs and get a cortisone shot. Under WADA rules I can run/ride/play whatever immediately.
Under MPCC, that means 8 days 'off' certainly away from competition, but its supposed to be rest/sick leave.
good example, cheers.posted by Catwhoorg
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> As an example of the vast gulf between them.
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> I have a sore knee, and go to the docs and get a cortisone shot. Under WADA
> rules I can run/ride/play whatever immediately.
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> Under MPCC, that means 8 days 'off' certainly away from competition, but
> its supposed to be rest/sick leave.
Big Doopie said:Tonton said:And many, starting with the French cycling fans, are now looking at AG2R's great '14 TdF in a very different light.
pas moi.
not for a second.
imagine anything like this coming from astana or tinkov? lol!!
makes me believe in more in AG2R and french cycling and less (if possible) of teams like astana and tinkov.
anyone check out nibali and cancellera's responses to the CIRC. might as well have been holding up posters for omerta and doping.