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karlboss said:
fixed it for you
on a serious note tho, nibali going to the tour is actually bad for every tt oriented GC rider, he will be aggressive as he isn't afraid to attack and the better climbers in the race will follow and counter as it usually happens which will put the tt oriented guys like wiggins, evans and the pope against the rope.
it certainly wouldn't be the first time that guys like andy, nibali, samu, gesink, rolland and VDB2 dropped those guys on the mountains.
on a situation like this samu could come up as the big winner to be honest since when he is on form he is a very complete rider.
about his contract for next year: could the new sponsor( Ristori) be a way to inject some money on the team in order to keep nibali? the CN article says he has received offers around 500k higher then his liqui offer, but maybe he would settle for liqui if they offered him some more.
Indeed, having Nibali in the race is a huge plus for the entertainment of the race. If he has to, he'll attack just about anywhere, whether it's on a mountain, a descent or a hill.Parrulo said:fixed it for you
on a serious note tho, nibali going to the tour is actually bad for every tt oriented GC rider, he will be aggressive as he isn't afraid to attack and the better climbers in the race will follow and counter as it usually happens which will put the tt oriented guys like wiggins, evans and the pope against the rope.
it certainly wouldn't be the first time that guys like andy, nibali, samu, gesink, rolland and VDB2 dropped those guys on the mountains.
on a situation like this samu could come up as the big winner to be honest since when he is on form he is a very complete rider.
Samuel Sanchez might be a slightly better climber and TT'er than Nibali on paper, but Sanchez usually tends to have a bad day during a GT. Like on Galibier last year when he lost almost 3 minutes to Frank Schleck/Evans etc. Not that Nibali is immune to bad days either, but I think he might be slightly more consistent.
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hfer07 said:1. 8 Million Per Year-imaging the contract will go for at least 3--time to cash in
Wow, Boonen only makes 1 million euros per year. Overpaid....
Yet incredibly underpaid in comparison to what Hushovd makes for example (2,5 million).El Pistolero said:
Obviously Boonen's wage will be a lot higher after this season.
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maltiv said:
Boonen probably works with a bonus reward system this year, so he'll be well rewarded, but still. And really? Hushovd most overpaid cyclist ever? That's ridiculous for someone who doesn't win a lot and never won a Monument.
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maltiv said:
seriosuly? hushovd makes 2.5 mil a year? lol what idiots are running bmc?
and nibali won't be overpaid pisti, boonen is the one being underpaid here, he should be getting twice as much at least.
on to the topic, well maltiv isn't as much as nibali being more consistent then samu, i think he is just better at limiting his losses when he is having a bad day.
Nibali is great value for 1.8 million a year, he is going to make significantly more world tour points than Boonen, he is a potential winner at 3 of the 5 monuments and arguably at any grand tour he focusses on. Add in a couple of great results in week long races and he is definitely one of the best buys in the calendar.
He produces results at a very consistent rate at the highest level from 2010 onwards, the same cant be said of many riders at all, potentially only Evans and JRod given Contador is not elligible for WT points
He produces results at a very consistent rate at the highest level from 2010 onwards, the same cant be said of many riders at all, potentially only Evans and JRod given Contador is not elligible for WT points
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gilbertador said:
Erm, Boonen has been very consistent since 2004. Nibali's chances of winning a Monument are a lot smaller than those of Boonen and he can also win 3 out of 5.
It's not all about WT points.
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lol boogerd got paid 1.2 mil a year while all he won in all those years where basically agr, paris nice + 2 tour stages and some smaller vcitories
poor boonen wins plenty monuments and gets the same?
poor boonen wins plenty monuments and gets the same?
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I think Nibali wants to stay with Liquigas which can probably raise the offer to 2 million, considering that Basso is almost at the end of his career Liquigas would be stupid to lose Nibali. If you're not greedy even 1.8 mil is a pretty good wages and working with a team you like is priceless in my opinion.
I'm happy that Nibali is racing the Tour this year, he probably won't win it but he will make the race more interesting.
I'm sure at the Tour of California we will see the Sagan/Nibali show, I really hope they will cause some damage.
I'm happy that Nibali is racing the Tour this year, he probably won't win it but he will make the race more interesting.
I'm sure at the Tour of California we will see the Sagan/Nibali show, I really hope they will cause some damage.
Be a little careful on wages, you'll find all sorts of reports from all sorts of places and in many cases can't tell what the reality is. For example I read in l'equipe that Boonen has been paid as much as 2.6 and at the moment is 2.1. Hushovd is at 1.5, and well a host of others.
Around the 2 mark seems about right for Nibali, as stated he has potential in 3 of 5 monuments, all three GTs, races and performs all year long. If he progresses just a little 2 million euro will be a bargain. I think liqui's the best place for him I can't see him moving. If he does well atthe Tour, he won't have to wait for the team to tell him what his schedule is.
Around the 2 mark seems about right for Nibali, as stated he has potential in 3 of 5 monuments, all three GTs, races and performs all year long. If he progresses just a little 2 million euro will be a bargain. I think liqui's the best place for him I can't see him moving. If he does well atthe Tour, he won't have to wait for the team to tell him what his schedule is.
Caruut said:
Yes but all round Nibali has potential for far greater achievments in the future winning a GT and Monuments is the pinnacle of the sport, Nibali has undoubted potential to win both kinds, Boonen hasnt
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gilbertador said:
Boonen's palmares is one of the best in the history of cycling. He holds the shared records for both cobbled monuments and the outright record for total cobbled monuments. Can I ask how many PR/RVV titles (assuming you think they are roughly equal) you think equate to a Vuelta, a Giro and a Tour?
Gregory said:
right now yes, but it was a different situasion last year when he signed the contract
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Michele said:
Just speculation coming from RaiSport2...I don't think we'll know anything before the end of the Tour de France on that subject matter...moreover people here in Italy keep on saying GEOX is going to replace LIQUIGAS as main sponsor at the end of the season, so completely new horizons are being traced...
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