LXI Vuelta Colombia 2011 12-6 / 26-6

[Ryo Hazuki]

11:30 of antioquia

40 seconds faster than movistar after 11 km

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

gw shimano on their way!


at finish redetrans fatest with 23:06, movistar now 6 seconds slower, they have blown in the final

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

colombia es passion very bad with 23:28

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

goberncaion de antioquia are hammering into teh finish with a sickenign 21:55!! average of 57,8 km.h!!!!!

 

[Kazistuta]

goberncaion de antioquia are hammering into teh finish with a sickenign 21:55!! average of 57,8 km.h!!!!!

Hells no....unless if the TTT was downhill....

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

it was flat but probably good wind

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

1) Gobernacion-Indeportes de Antioquia 21:55 segundos,
2) Redetrans-Indervalle a 1:11 segundos,
3) Gw-Shimano a 1:13 segundos,
4) Movistar-Team Continental a 1:17 segundos,
5) Boyacá Orgullo de América a 1:27 segundos,
6) Colombia es Pasión 4-72 a 1:33 seg,
7) EPM-UNE a 1:37 seg,
8) Formesan-IDRD-Liga de Bogotá a 1:53 segundos,
9) Formesan Panachi-Indersantader 3:06 seg,
10) EBSA a 3:28 seg

Epm really bad too, they have blown in the end

 

[El Pistolero]

Hells no....unless if the TTT was downhill....

There have been flat prologues where cyclists averaged 60km/h. Rik Verbrugghe holds the speed record for time trials in the Giro for example(prologue)

With good wind it definitely is possible to get such an average speed in a TTT.

 

[Escarabajo]

1) Gobernacion-Indeportes de Antioquia 21:55 segundos,
2) Redetrans-Indervalle a 1:11 segundos,
3) Gw-Shimano a 1:13 segundos,
4) Movistar-Team Continental a 1:17 segundos,
5) Boyacá Orgullo de América a 1:27 segundos,
6) Colombia es Pasión 4-72 a 1:33 seg,
7) EPM-UNE a 1:37 seg,
8) Formesan-IDRD-Liga de Bogotá a 1:53 segundos,
9) Formesan Panachi-Indersantader 3:06 seg,
10) EBSA a 3:28 seg

Epm really bad too, they have blown in the end

So Sevilla in Command?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

team lider won the 14 km ttt in 2006 vuelta chile I think it was with an average of 61 km/h!

rodas new leader but thursdya wilol be stage over alto la linea, let's hope the 4 best or so survive and work well the 70 km to the finish... and sevilla cracks

 

[jens_attacks]

goberncaion de antioquia are hammering into teh finish with a sickenign 21:55!! average of 57,8 km.h!!!!!

missed it again.damn you friends.was it live broadcasted?

shiit i've told y'all that antioquia will crush the rivals and will rule this race with an iron fist.so podium at the end that i said first:1.sevilla 2.henao. 3.bufalo

58 km average speed!!i should drink some kerosene too damn they've murdered all!

 

[luckyboy]

Aw sucks for Colombia es Pasion. Hoping they can salvage some points for my CQ team.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

tonight is another stage of 120 k

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s8LegxBcnU&feature=player_embedded

video of ttt

 

[Duartista]

1.sevilla 2.henao. 3.bufalo

What a nightmarish scenario. Although if they do sweep the podium, Acevedo will be the third guy. El Bufalo will struggle to make the top 50, he's just there to work on the flat.

 

[Anonymous]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s8LegxBcnU&feature=player_embedded

video of ttt

again with the music lol

 

[Ildabaoth]

I wouldn't say that. look at how many people greeted nairo quintana in bogota airport after him winning tour de avenir. cycling is biggest sport in colombia for common people. football stadiums are empty while cycling races are crowded beyond believe. tv and media give more attention to football yes, but still colombian cyclists become sportsman of year or even of century like martin cochise

and how many comments an article has in a newspaper says nothing about how many have read it, or who. cycling isn't popular in carribean area but, most people live in antioqia where henao is a national hero. victor hugo pena once explained in an interview after some dumb journalist asked him if he and rujano were known in their countrys. rujano started laughing and pena said, cycling in colombia is like in flanders and in venezuela like in netherlands so everyone knows us yes.

I admire your passion for colombian cycling. Actually, sometimes I even appreciate it, where not for the fact that unlimited fanboyism tend to generate repulsion (i.e. ACF early days and Evans, or Bavarianrider and Martin -I did like Martin before Bavarianrider appeared). And your knowledge of colombian cycling is awesome. But facts are facts.

I'm colombian. While I went abroad for several years, I'm back here and I've lived here for quite a long time. No matter what you say, cycling is not the biggest sport in the country, not even for what you call the common class. To be sportsman of the year doesn't say anything (and, actually, since 1960 there have been just 4-5 cyclists in that list). Several times the sportmen of the year have been weightlifters, golfers, shooters, and no one of these categories have ever been a popular sport, just a sport in which some colombian did something worthy. Or do you want to argue that golf and bowling are hugely popular in Colombia too? Even Montoya was a sportman of the year (pure fanboyism, because colombians watched F1 just when he was in there) and it doesn't mean car racing is a great sport here.

Sure indeed, the number of comments on a news isn't a direct indicator on the number of readers. But it can be used as an indirect one. You would find it weird to have a most commented news in a newspaper if the number of readers was low. So there is a correlation, even if the codependency isn't 1. Or, if you prefer it that way, the covariance matrix isn't diagonal.

Henao himself isn't a national hero. Actually, I'd find it amazing if in a list he would be rated between the 50 most popular sportmen in the country. And Peña and Rujano wouldn't say something like "Well, to be honest we are pretty nobodies in our countries". For god's sake, Peña, Serpa and Buenahora live my home city and most people doesn't recognize them in the streets. You can't seriously say a sport is popular when it is rare to find someone who knows the name of more than 3-4 races around the world or when popularity is just correlated to success.

Reality is, cycling in Colombia isn't popular anymore. And believe me, I was there when it was. A lot of people would know at least something about cycling. This is not the case right now. The only person with whom I can regularly talk about cycling right now is the doorman of my building (and that because his son is a U20 cyclist). The good thing is, cycling is slightly recovering its popularity. It's a pity it is not so much a matter of passion, but mostly fanboyism. But, in any case, it is nice.

I, myself, would be extremely happy if cycling in Colombia was at least a fraction of what you claim it to be, and I hope it can return to its deserved popularity level. But honestly, and no offence, I think I can have a more legitimate opinion of what is popular in Colombia, the same thing I wouldn't claim to have a more informed opinion about the latest gossip in Rotterdam than you.

I know a lot of Dutchies who have no clue who Lars Boom, Langeveld or even Gesink are.

You lost me . You try to say that a sport can be called "popular" in a country even if most people don't know **** about it?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

What a nightmarish scenario. Although if they do sweep the podium, Acevedo will be the third guy. El Bufalo will struggle to make the top 50, he's just there to work on the flat.

acevedo already lost v12 minutes yesterday. surprised me too. maybe he crashed or something?? yesterday was hell anyway as the peloton was only 40 guys big and the rest are out of contention and lost minutes.

gutierrez as I posted a photo of him seems sharper than ever and with the whole kelme medical staff involded in that team you never know, but it would surprise me too. it's all for sevilla's win

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I admire your passion for colombian cycling. Actually, sometimes I even appreciate it, where not for the fact that unlimited fanboyism tend to generate repulsion (i.e. ACF early days and Evans, or Bavarianrider and Martin -I did like Martin before Bavarianrider appeared). And your knowledge of colombian cycling is awesome. But facts are facts.

I'm colombian. While I went abroad for several years, I'm back here and I've lived here for quite a long time. No matter what you say, cycling is not the biggest sport in the country, not even for what you call the common class. To be sportsman of the year doesn't say anything (and, actually, since 1960 there have been just 4-5 cyclists in that list). Several times the sportmen of the year have been weightlifters, golfers, shooters, and no one of these categories have ever been a popular sport, just a sport in which some colombian did something worthy. Or do you want to argue that golf and bowling are hugely popular in Colombia too? Even Montoya was a sportman of the year (pure fanboyism, because colombians watched F1 just when he was in there) and it doesn't mean car racing is a great sport here.

Sure indeed, the number of comments on a news isn't a direct indicator on the number of readers. But it can be used as an indirect one. You would find it weird to have a most commented news in a newspaper if the number of readers was low. So there is a correlation, even if the codependency isn't 1. Or, if you prefer it that way, the covariance matrix isn't diagonal.

Henao himself isn't a national hero. Actually, I'd find it amazing if in a list he would be rated between the 50 most popular sportmen in the country. And Peña and Rujano wouldn't say something like "Well, to be honest we are pretty nobodies in our countries". For god's sake, Peña, Serpa and Buenahora live my home city and most people doesn't recognize them in the streets. You can't seriously say a sport is popular when it is rare to find someone who knows the name of more than 3-4 races around the world or when popularity is just correlated to success.

Reality is, cycling in Colombia isn't popular anymore. And believe me, I was there when it was. A lot of people would know at least something about cycling. This is not the case right now. The only person with whom I can regularly talk about cycling right now is the doorman of my building (and that because his son is a U20 cyclist). The good thing is, cycling is slightly recovering its popularity. It's a pity it is not so much a matter of passion, but mostly fanboyism. But, in any case, it is nice.

I, myself, would be extremely happy if cycling in Colombia was at least a fraction of what you claim it to be, and I hope it can return to its deserved popularity level. But honestly, and no offence, I think I can have a more legitimate opinion of what is popular in Colombia, the same thing I wouldn't claim to have a more informed opinion about the latest gossip in Rotterdam than you.



You lost me . You try to say that a sport can be called "popular" in a country even if most people don't know **** about it?

henao is no national hero but a hero in antioquia. I assume you don't live in either boyaca or antioquia. where do you live?

 

[Ildabaoth]

henao is no national hero but a hero in antioquia. I assume you don't live in either boyaca or antioquia. where do you live?

Ahem... Where do YOU live? But you know what, I quit.

 

[The Hitch]

I admire your passion for colombian cycling. Actually, sometimes I even appreciate it, where not for the fact that unlimited fanboyism tend to generate repulsion (i.e. ACF early days and Evans, or Bavarianrider and Martin -I did like Martin before Bavarianrider appeared). And your knowledge of colombian cycling is awesome. But facts are facts.

I'm colombian. While I went abroad for several years, I'm back here and I've lived here for quite a long time. No matter what you say, cycling is not the biggest sport in the country, not even for what you call the common class. To be sportsman of the year doesn't say anything (and, actually, since 1960 there have been just 4-5 cyclists in that list). Several times the sportmen of the year have been weightlifters, golfers, shooters, and no one of these categories have ever been a popular sport, just a sport in which some colombian did something worthy. Or do you want to argue that golf and bowling are hugely popular in Colombia too? Even Montoya was a sportman of the year (pure fanboyism, because colombians watched F1 just when he was in there) and it doesn't mean car racing is a great sport here.

Sure indeed, the number of comments on a news isn't a direct indicator on the number of readers. But it can be used as an indirect one. You would find it weird to have a most commented news in a newspaper if the number of readers was low. So there is a correlation, even if the codependency isn't 1. Or, if you prefer it that way, the covariance matrix isn't diagonal.

Henao himself isn't a national hero. Actually, I'd find it amazing if in a list he would be rated between the 50 most popular sportmen in the country. And Peña and Rujano wouldn't say something like "Well, to be honest we are pretty nobodies in our countries". For god's sake, Peña, Serpa and Buenahora live my home city and most people doesn't recognize them in the streets. You can't seriously say a sport is popular when it is rare to find someone who knows the name of more than 3-4 races around the world or when popularity is just correlated to success.

Reality is, cycling in Colombia isn't popular anymore. And believe me, I was there when it was. A lot of people would know at least something about cycling. This is not the case right now. The only person with whom I can regularly talk about cycling right now is the doorman of my building (and that because his son is a U20 cyclist). The good thing is, cycling is slightly recovering its popularity. It's a pity it is not so much a matter of passion, but mostly fanboyism. But, in any case, it is nice.

I, myself, would be extremely happy if cycling in Colombia was at least a fraction of what you claim it to be, and I hope it can return to its deserved popularity level. But honestly, and no offence, I think I can have a more legitimate opinion of what is popular in Colombia, the same thing I wouldn't claim to have a more informed opinion about the latest gossip in Rotterdam than you.

Those were some awesome essays man. Love the maths bit as well.

I would love for Cycling to be super popular in any country, but in life we must get used to the fact that we dont get what we want. Ryo makes a good argument, but it just doesnt stand against your experience and lucidity.

I was always skeptical that cycling was as big in Colombia as Ryo and DAOTEC made it out to be, but hopefully, some new success can breathe life into it.

I also hope that the success comes in the Giro or Vuelta first because if someone like Uran or Duarte or Henao were to break out in the Tour, a Giro win after that might not make any headlines.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

in 2007 vuelta colombia they even had to postpone the start of a stage in the vuelta colombia in medellin because thousands of fans had blocked the hotel where botero was in. I;m sure all these fans there and now here were forced on to the streets to cheer for someone they have no idea who he is? botero seems to think differently but you know better I assume. it's hilarious it's like showing photo's of fvootball matches in netherlands and tens of thousands people on the streets and someone saying no man it's not really popular.


the vuelta stage tonight is almost finished. 3 k to go

Situación de Carrera a 3 Km de la Meta en Yumbo: 1. Grupo de Once: Danny Osorio (Formesán-Panachi), Jorge Martinez (Redetrans-InderVallle), Edison Mahecha (Policia Nacional) y Juan A. García (GW-Shimano),Juan Carlos Lopez (Formesan-IDRD-Liga de Bogotá), Leonardo Rodriguez (Fuerzas Armadas), Julian Atehortua (El Mago Editores), Raul Saiz (InderCundinamarca), Camilo Castiblanco (EBSA), Jair Pérez (Colombia es Pasión 4-72) y Byron Guama (Movistar), 2. Lote con el Líder Julián Rodas (Gobernación de Antioquia) a 25 segundos

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

byron guama from ecuador wins!!!!! first win for movistar ct!

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Those were some awesome essays man. Love the maths bit as well.

I would love for Cycling to be super popular in any country, but in life we must get used to the fact that we dont get what we want. Ryo makes a good argument, but it just doesnt stand against your experience and lucidity.

I was always skeptical that cycling was as big in Colombia as Ryo and DAOTEC made it out to be, but hopefully, some new success can breathe life into it.

I also hope that the success comes in the Giro or Vuelta first because if someone like Uran or Duarte or Henao were to break out in the Tour, a Giro win after that might not make any headlines.

daotec's wife is colombian and he has lived for many years in colombia before going back to netherlands. he lived in medellin.

 

[jens_attacks]

lol about daotec with all due respect,give the guy a chance to comment soler's awesome performances to come in july.he already served more than il killer i think.if he does it again,make a coni move.

oh libertine will be so piszed.