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Teams & Riders Mark Cavendish Discussion Thread

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You have to go further back to see what @Netserk meaning is on their past posts in this thread.

Well, it's not a weird thing to ask when a guy, who was originally planning to already be retired at this point, is actually going to retire.

While getting the record would obviously be cool, I'm not so sure about how likely it is, so hopefully this - prolonging his career - is simply a matter of wanting to have the chance to actually try, and finish his last Tour in a good way. Otherwise, it could get a bit awkward...

It's the year 2074...

"No... I'm not retired yet! I'm still looking for a team that'll allow me to do the Tour so I can get that record!"

"Granddad... you're almost 90!"
 
Well, it's not a weird thing to ask when a guy, who was originally planning to already be retired at this point, is actually going to retire.

While getting the record would obviously be cool, I'm not so sure about how likely it is, so hopefully this - prolonging his career - is simply a matter of wanting to have the chance to actually try, and finish his last Tour in a good way. Otherwise, it could get a bit awkward...

It's the year 2074...

"No... I'm not retired yet! I'm still looking for a team that'll allow me to do the Tour so I can get that record!"

"Granddad... you're almost 90!"

Among others, they’ve wanted Cavendish to retire for awhile.
Time to retire. He detracts more from the sport than he adds to it.
 
I totally didn't read that as a "Ugh... just retire already" comment, but as a genuine question. Especially since the post right above mentioned "His last year" (as a pro).
It was an "Ugh", they have been clambering for Cav to retire since his year with SKY.

"Well, it's not a weird thing to ask when a guy, who was originally planning to already be retired at this point, is actually going to retire."

It is weird in February after he just won a race.
 
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I just want the hobbit to return to the Shire.
 
Again, you’re missing the context that’s right in front of your face. They’re not asking when “the hobbit” will retire so the hobbit can hangout with his family more, they’re asking so they know when they don’t have to see them anymore.

How was that context right in front of my face, if I'd have had to go back several posts to spot it?
The immediate context was simply:
"It's his last year."
"When will he retire?"/"He's retiring?", a question that could be asked about any rider.
Look... I'm sorry that I don't keep a detailed list over which poster has weird antipaties towards which rider, so I'd be able to know from the immediate context when a question about a rider retiring is simple curiousity, and when it has hostile intents.

deja vu

I think that you are missing the point here...

I answered the question about when Cavendish will actually hang up the bike:
At the end of this year.
What hidden point are you seeing.
 
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How was that context right in front of my face, if I'd have had to go back several posts to spot it?
The immediate context was simply:
"It's his last year."
"When will he retire?"/"He's retiring?", a question that could be asked about any rider.
Look... I'm sorry that I don't keep a detailed list over which poster has weird antipaties towards which rider, so I'd be able to know from the immediate context when a question about a rider retiring is simple curiousity, and when it has hostile intents.



I answered the question about when Cavendish will actually hang up the bike:
At the end of this year.
What hidden point are you seeing.
We don't know that he will retire at the end of the year.
You are not seeing the point that the OP wants Cav to retire because he thinks that he sucks.
 
We don't know that he will retire at the end of the year.
You are not seeing the point that the OP wants Cav to retire because he thinks that he sucks.

Again, that's the part I'm pretty sure has been implicitly stated.
He was supposed to retire at the end of last year, but then he broke his collarbone, and decided to extend his career...
I'm sorry I don't keep a detailed list about which poster thinks which rider sucks...
 
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How was that context right in front of my face, if I'd have had to go back several posts to spot it?
The immediate context was simply:
"It's his last year."
"When will he retire?"/"He's retiring?", a question that could be asked about any rider.
Look... I'm sorry that I don't keep a detailed list over which poster has weird antipaties towards which rider, so I'd be able to know from the immediate context when a question about a rider retiring is simple curiousity, and when it has hostile intents.



I answered the question about when Cavendish will actually hang up the bike:
At the end of this year.
What hidden point are you seeing.
That’s fine if you don’t know the specific posts but you know the poster and how he posts for those he doesn’t care for. I told you that you need to go further back and read their past posts to know the context, you ignored it. That’s why I told you, so you can understand where everyone else is coming from and the context. Others told you about it and you continued to ignore it. The poster then gave you more proof of him not particularly liking the rider and you ignored it. They want Cavendish to retire, they wanted Cavendish to retire last year, they wanted Cavendish to retire in 2020, he wanted Cavendish to retire pretty much every year. All I was trying to tell you is the context so you know where everyone is coming from.


Yes, Cavendish is almost certainly retiring at the end of the year.
 
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That’s fine if you don’t know the specific posts but you know the poster and how he posts for those he doesn’t care for. I told you that you need to go further back and read their past posts to know the context, you ignored it.

That's kinda my point, isn't it?
You need to go further back.
So, when I read that initial question, I saw it as a simple question that any poster might ask about any rider.
 
Right, but you didn’t go further back and thus missed the context that it was not in fact a simple question.

You only told me that I had to go further back after I'd already explained how I initially read that post... I read it the same way I would have read it from any poster, in any rider thread.
Are you expecting people to scroll several posts back every time they reply to a post, just in case there might be some hidden context?