Teams & Riders Mark Cavendish Discussion Thread

[Mongolian Torque]

Cavendish up a hill...

Still a bit of a fat turd...

 

[burning]

Still a bit of a fat turd...

Whats the point of posting same stuff again?

 

[Mongolian Torque]

Whats the point of posting same stuff again?

Yeah, my apologies. Even I'm getting a tad bored of the Cavopottamus bashing.

Win three flats and then scurry home after spying a Cat 1 bump down the road...

Also, note tifosi guy pushing Cav up the hill after hauling on a cigarette, that's GOT to be Brailsford in cheap Giro disguise...

 

[veganrob]

Usually he's alright on hills and can come in grupetto but you gotta remember his crash and how affected the crash had on his body. He's better now and always came with grupetto.

Good point. Cav has hit the deck hard several times and is still going. Crashing at 75 kph hurts.

 

[sartoris]

It's a joke that this guy is on top of the "most combative rider" classification. Apart from sprinting better than anyone, I've never seen him sticking his head out of the peloton. Never! Have you seen him in many breakaways so far in the Giro? Getting any mountain points? Giving his wheel to anyone? Is he really the "most combative" cyclist of this race? Ludicrous!

I'm not a hater, but Cav should be on his way home if the rules were the same for everybody. A sprinter should be able to get to the end of the stage on his own efforts, not with the help of the public and, what's worse, of their team.

 

[Caruut]

It's a joke that this guy is on top of the "most combative rider" classification. Apart from sprinting better than anyone, I've never seen him sticking his head out of the peloton. Never! Have you seen him in many breakaways so far in the Giro? Getting any mountain points? Giving his wheel to anyone? Is he really the "most combative" cyclist of this race? Ludicrous!

I'm not a hater, but Cav should be on his way home if the rules were the same for everybody. A sprinter should be able to get to the end of the stage on his own efforts, not with the help of the public and, what's worse, of their team.

No he isn't. Do they give a certain number of points automatically to the stage winner and placings and the winners and placers of the intermediate sprints? The rankings look like they might.

If you aren't a hater, why do you keep posting this in different threads?

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Feel free to hate cos Cav ain't trying-a be your mate,
Be serious you wouldn't last an hour in his shoes



FO SHIZZLE

 

[sartoris]

No he isn't. Do they give a certain number of points automatically to the stage winner and placings and the winners and placers of the intermediate sprints? The rankings look like they might.

If you aren't a hater, why do you keep posting this in different threads?

Only in two threads which were specifically about him, mate. I'm not saying the guy's not the best sprinter in the world (Sagan included), but getting extra help on the mountains isn't fair play.

Peace.

Over and out.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

It's a joke that this guy is on top of the "most combative rider" classification. Apart from sprinting better than anyone, I've never seen him sticking his head out of the peloton. Never! Have you seen him in many breakaways so far in the Giro? Getting any mountain points? Giving his wheel to anyone? Is he really the "most combative" cyclist of this race? Ludicrous!

I'm not a hater, but Cav should be on his way home if the rules were the same for everybody. A sprinter should be able to get to the end of the stage on his own efforts, not with the help of the public and, what's worse, of their team.

In the Giro, the Combativity classification awards points at intermediate sprints, mountain points and a trimmed down number of points for stage-ending sprints. It is often won by a dominant sprinter or a dominant GPM rider, like Sella in '08 or Rujano in '05.

The Giro's equivalent to the Combativity classification as you may know it from the Tour de France is the Trofeo Fuga, which awards a point for every km spent in a group of 10 or fewer at the head of the race.

Olivier Kaisen currently leads it with 639 points, ahead of Martijn Keizer and Miguel Mínguez. Mark Cavendish has 0 points.

So he's doing well in the classifications that reward being able to compete in the sprints, not doing well in the classifications that don't have anything to do with him, and the Giro's Combativity award is misleadingly named.

 

[sartoris]

In the Giro, the Combativity classification awards points at intermediate sprints, mountain points and a trimmed down number of points for stage-ending sprints. It is often won by a dominant sprinter or a dominant GPM rider, like Sella in '08 or Rujano in '05.

The Giro's equivalent to the Combativity classification as you may know it from the Tour de France is the Trofeo Fuga, which awards a point for every km spent in a group of 10 or fewer at the head of the race.

Olivier Kaisen currently leads it with 639 points, ahead of Martijn Keizer and Miguel Mínguez. Mark Cavendish has 0 points.

So he's doing well in the classifications that reward being able to compete in the sprints, not doing well in the classifications that don't have anything to do with him, and the Giro's Combativity award is misleadingly named.

Thanks very much for your detailed explanation. I must admit I for one was misled by the name. Cheers!

 

[Mongolian Torque]

Cav wrote the book on class...

Just look at his reaction at the end of Giro stage 18...
Not saying he's a fat turd this time either...

 

[cineteq]

Just look at his reaction at the end of Giro stage 18...
Not saying he's a fat turd this time either...

 

[mewmewmew13]

LOL
lovely!
and gracious

glad it was such a clean sprint --nothing to diminish the excellent win

 

[thehog]

http://www.gazzetta.it/Giroditalia/...ima-volata-poi-anche-palco-911327471381.shtml

For those who understand Italian this really says it all.

Cav needs to be reigned in. He is utterly disrespectful.

 

[palmerq]

for those of us who dont understand italian google translate has done a good job for me

"Cavendish triggered the controversy, alluding to alleged aid received by Guardini last time to get up, but then takes a step back. Guardini: "I think Cavendish is a great champion, nothing else matters." Low-Boots, evidence of an alliance against the bogeyman Hesjedal"

hesjedal the bogey man

 

[hrotha]

http://www.gazzetta.it/Giroditalia/...ima-volata-poi-anche-palco-911327471381.shtml

For those who understand Italian this really says it all.

Cav needs to be reigned in. He is utterly disrespectful.

My head is about to explode from the irony.

(No matter if Cav and/or Guardini are guilty, it's still ironic. Yes it is. Shut up)

 

[180mmCrank]

My head is about to explode from the irony.

(No matter if Cav and/or Guardini are guilty, it's still ironic. Yes it is. Shut up)

Cav is a young guy. He is the best sprinter in the World. Some of what makes him the best shows up in the way he behaves in victory, defeat and off the bike. I dont think you can have one without the other. Being gracious is not a requirement of greatness. Ultimately he will be remembered for his results.

Just my opinion.

I think he is awesome and great for the sport. But I am biased.

T

 

[mewmewmew13]

http://www.gazzetta.it/Giroditalia/...ima-volata-poi-anche-palco-911327471381.shtml

For those who understand Italian this really says it all.

Cav needs to be reigned in. He is utterly disrespectful.

Hahaha
sorry palmerq was busy laughing at the google translate also !!! so posted this after you pointed it out

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gazzetta.it%2FGiroditalia%2F24-05-2012%2Fguardinicavendish-botta-risposta-prima-volata-poi-anche-palco-911327471381.shtml

the bogeyman indeed! lol and Scarponi is 'Low-Boots' !!

and ..."Luca Scinto, father, totems and tutelary deity of the Farnese. "

LOVE this...'tutelary deity'

 

[Caruut]

Does seem a bit stupid to say it, but at the same time, he didn't say it publicly.

 

[thehog]

Hahaha
sorry palmerq was busy laughing at the google translate also !!! so posted this after you pointed it out

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gazzetta.it%2FGiroditalia%2F24-05-2012%2Fguardinicavendish-botta-risposta-prima-volata-poi-anche-palco-911327471381.shtml

the bogeyman indeed! lol and Scarponi is 'Low-Boots' !!

and ..."Luca Scinto, father, totems and tutelary deity of the Farnese. "

LOVE this...'tutelary deity'

Scarponi are like ski-boots in Italian. The generally sit low on the leg like mountain boots. Scarpa is shoe. Depending on what type of shoe you'd have Scapa de xxxxx...

 

[mewmewmew13]

Scarponi are like ski-boots in Italian. The generally sit low on the leg like mountain boots. Scarpa is shoe. Depending on what type of shoe you'd have Scapa de xxxxx...

When I used to climb a lot I used to wear Scarpas...an Italian climbing shoe brand.
but I thought scarponi meant little shoes...but I guess literal "low-boots' does as well. hehe

anyway...back OT ;-0

 

[palmerq]

I think the low from the low-boots alliance is google translated from basso.. basso-scarponi alliance :S...... I am still worried about the bogey man

 

[mewmewmew13]

I think the low from the low-boots alliance is google translated from basso.. basso-scarponi alliance :S...... I am still worried about the bogey man

Ah, of course! the 'Low-Boots' team

 

[orangerider]

Disgusted by the end reaction of Cavendish. Instead of a pat on the back or even just riding by, he disrespects the entire tour. Pull the rainbow jersey off this guys back please.

 

[thehog]

Cav is a young guy. He is the best sprinter in the World. Some of what makes him the best shows up in the way he behaves in victory, defeat and off the bike. I dont think you can have one without the other. Being gracious is not a requirement of greatness. Ultimately he will be remembered for his results.

Just my opinion.

I think he is awesome and great for the sport. But I am biased.

T

This is the same silliness that Armstrong used to basically be a pr1c to everyone. Then Contador comes along and shows you can win without ridicule.

Today Guardini showed what it is to be a gracious winner. He speaks very well, praises his opponents and loves his sport. He's 22 and full of sublime energy. And I'll tell you something else for free... he's darn exciting to watch minus the massive sprint train.

Cav has a lot to learn and most of it is off the bike. I think he just met his match.

If anything Cavendish is scared of what he saw today.

And Twitter is not a way to communicate to human beings. Another dreadful Armstrong hangover.