Matt White stands down from all positions

[movingtarget]

Cycling Australia sacks Matt White
AAP Updated October 17, 2012, 5:50 pm



Matt White has been sacked by Cycling Australia after he admitted to being a drug cheat.


Matt White has been sacked as men's road co-ordinator by Cycling Australia (CA) after he admitted to doping during his time with Lance Armstrong's US Postal team.

White had already stood down as Orica-GreenEDGE sports director and CA road co-ordinator on Saturday.

CA agreed his position was untenable.

"In that role (as elite men's road co-ordinator, White) has made a significant, valuable contribution to our men's national teams and at no time do we believe his influence or actions went against the best interests of the sport," the CA board said in a statement on Wednesday.

"However, the admissions contained within his public statement of 13 October clearly place him in breach of the CA Anti-Doping Policy and Code of Conduct.

"Accordingly, the board has determined that his ongoing employment with CA is untenable and Matt was formally advised overnight of the termination of his contract."

CA also said the sport's world governing body, the UCI, had not done enough in the fight against performance-enhancing drugs.

"We acknowledge that there is now clear evidence that the UCI, until recent times, failed to fully and properly do its part to stamp out doping," said the CA board.

"We stand by our belief that the UCI deserves significant credit in a number of areas, namely its persistence in dealing with the Operation Puerto files and the groundbreaking introduction of the Biological Passport.

"We believe there is also reasonable evidence to support the view that the current professional peloton is much 'cleaner' and fair competition is now taking place. However, we concede questions do remain.

"How the UCI responds to the USADA file and how it addresses the allegations within it will be critical to the reputation of the organisation and that of the sport of cycling."

The CA board also decided not to back a possible amnesty against cycling drug cheats, as it "is not consistent with CA's strong anti-doping position".

The prospect of an amnesty had been flagged by CA president Klaus Mueller.
But CA did support the proposal to criminalise doping.

 

[sairyder]

http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentra...ith-orica-greenedge-to-be-determined-by-asada

Not from Green Edge, they are waiting for ASADA decision

 

[movingtarget]

http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentra...ith-orica-greenedge-to-be-determined-by-asada

Not from Green Edge, they are waiting for ASADA decision

OK. Thanks.

 

[LastRide]

http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentra...ith-orica-greenedge-to-be-determined-by-asada

Not from Green Edge, they are waiting for ASADA decision

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling...garding-doping-confession-20121017-27rql.html

wrong...

read this, it seems they have already made their decision. Back as DS.

 

[pelodee]

Post-Armstrong Cycling Australia eats itself alive (Bob Gosford, Oct 18, 2012)

Others in the Cycling Australia network also need to come clean about their participation – in many different ways – in the long-term corruption of Australian cycling … They need to reveal their roles in maintaining the Armstrong conspiracy, their own individual doping histories and their role in inducting others into that system...

 

[86TDFWinner]

"My involvement is something I am not proud of and I sincerely apologise to my fans, media, family and friends who trusted me and also to other athletes in my era that consciously chose not to dope.

You gotta love this line here, you didn't seem to be so worried about your "involvement" when it benefitted you though right? f*&^% d bag.

 

[blackcat]

I disagree with the hue and cry and calling for his head. (because, defacto that IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED)

Said he resigns. I appreciate he did. But in this climate in Australia, there is zero tolerance in the media for this. But EVERYONE who is up for the job, will be implicated in doping I can be sure.

Best for Mueller to stop his sham and PR, one day calling for dopers to be jailed, and then zero tolerance, then saying we will wait on Matt White.

There will be no one who can do the job, who has not been tarnished. I hope Jerry Ryan is expedient and keeps him on. I am pretty confident he will.

As much as I dont support the culture, I support the individual.

 

[sittingbison]

...I hope Jerry Ryan is expedient and keeps him on. I am pretty confident he will....

I'm not so sure. The public perception is very much "burn them all" (regardless of Grippers reasonable view), I don't think they can keep him on in this environment they will be faced with being labelled hypocrites.

Its the true price of Armstrongs deceit, everyone else has to pay for his sins.

 

[oncehadhair]

I disagree with the hue and cry and calling for his head. (because, defacto that IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED)

Said he resigns. I appreciate he did. But in this climate in Australia, there is zero tolerance in the media for this. But EVERYONE who is up for the job, will be implicated in doping I can be sure.

Best for Mueller to stop his sham and PR, one day calling for dopers to be jailed, and then zero tolerance, then saying we will wait on Matt White.

There will be no one who can do the job, who has not been tarnished. I hope Jerry Ryan is expedient and keeps him on. I am pretty confident he will.

As much as I dont support the culture, I support the individual.

Yeah, i'm the same. I see it entirely possible for white to be reformed and also see it possible for us not to be able to imagine the pressure cyclists were under to partake. I realise its a free world but with your job on the line (pretty well paid at that) you might just do what you have to do to keep your job. And it seems like armstrong was not hesitant to use the bully boy tactics to get his way.

And also agree that it is pretty hard to find untarnished individuals with experience in the peloton. Although i hear johann is looking for a job.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

10 years ago Matt White was doping.
2 years ago he was sending a rider from a clean team to a doping doctor.

When did the reformation of Matt White occur?

 

[Ferminal]

Yeh, according to Hardie he has tried very hard to provide a dope-free environment for young riders

 

[I Watch Cycling In July]

Hardie has changed his tune on White since early 2011.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Yeh, according to Hardie he has tried very hard to provide a dope-free environment for young riders

I have read the Trent Lowe incident on the Hardie conference website - I'll have to go look for Hardie's current take on the situation...

 

[blackcat]

I'm not so sure. The public perception is very much "burn them all" (regardless of Grippers reasonable view), I don't think they can keep him on in this environment they will be faced with being labelled hypocrites.

Its the true price of Armstrongs deceit, everyone else has to pay for his sins.

the cyclist who died getting run over on Beach Road in Melbourne, a Praties/Genesis Wealth Advisors rider, he had a dope positive, may have been in 2010 or 2011, in Belgium, or a domestic + last year.

Ryan had phoned him, and said he would pay for his defence against the Aus ADA

 

[blackcat]

I have read the Trent Lowe incident on the Hardie conference website - I'll have to go look for Hardie's current take on the situation...

but ask 131313 on Trent. Different story.

 

[blackcat]

Post-Armstrong Cycling Australia eats itself alive (Bob Gosford, Oct 18, 2012)

Others in the Cycling Australia network also need to come clean about their participation – in many different ways – in the long-term corruption of Australian cycling … They need to reveal their roles in maintaining the Armstrong conspiracy, their own individual doping histories and their role in inducting others into that system...

this^^^^^^^

 

[Dear Wiggo]

but ask 131313 on Trent. Different story.

It was emails that I read - did Hardie fabricate them? Has 131313 posted his version somewhere?

ETA: found something. 131313 loves JV by the looks?

 

[blackcat]

nah. The emails are not fabricated. Hardie was/is, on the up.

131313 has a backstory. And as implies, there is mail that may, re: mail re: info, not email, there is info 131313 may share in a personal message that predates Slipstream by a while.

 

[Runitout]

It was emails that I read - did Hardie fabricate them? Has 131313 posted his version somewhere?

1. No.

2. 131313 is not a player in these events.

Edit. Gazumped again. How are you doing, El Gato Negro?

 

[Ferminal]

nah. The emails are not fabricated. Hardie was/is, on the up.

131313 has a backstory. And as implies, there is mail that may, re: mail re: info, not email, there is info 131313 may share in a personal message that predates Slipstream by a while.

So Lowe had already doped prior to being pointed in that direction by White?

 

[blackcat]

So Lowe had already doped prior to being pointed in that direction by White?

I cant answer that one.

But I did defend Lowe on Hardie's word for a long time.

I also think that he got screwed by JV, and JV rides two side of the fence like a Texas bullrider

#deflection
(caveat: was a straight talker plainspeaker, now a hypocrite )

 

[sittingbison]

...Ryan had phoned him, and said he would pay for his defence against the Aus ADA

the problem even a guy like Ryan has is credibility with the public. GreenEDGE risks becoming a laughingstock, which after all this time wanting an Aussie ProTeam, and after the Pegasus fiasco, would be a tragedy.

Mind you filthy rich people, and people involved in cycling, never cease to amaze

 

[blackcat]

the problem even a guy like Ryan has is credibility with the public. GreenEDGE risks becoming a laughingstock, which after all this time wanting an Aussie ProTeam, and after the Pegasus fiasco, would be a tragedy.

Mind you filthy rich people, and people involved in cycling, never cease to amaze

ryan can give him a cushy job. And keep White on off the books, off publicity, and just be an advisor.

Did Lance have an advisor with a house in a Swiss ski resort?

 

[Runitout]

So Lowe had already doped prior to being pointed in that direction by White?

Whatever White's past (and he was busted in the 90s for doping, which no-one ever seems to take any notice of) there's absolutely no reason to suspect him of sending Lowe to del Moral for doping.

The document trail on Hardie's website shows what it was - a required health check according to UCI rules. The only certified doc in the nearest town was Guess Who. They took records of the test value, and those went to the UCI as required. They sent the paperwork to the team, with del Moral's name all over it. If the intention was to dope, it was a pretty poor one.

I have spent a long time going over this incident, and I have been left with the signal conclusion that not only was Lowe clean, but White didn't mean to send him to Del Moral to dope. I think Vaughters agrees, which is why he recently tweeted that Lowe was clean, even though they clearly get along like a mongoose and a snake.

Edit - the other thing to remember is that Hardie is responsible for the New Cycling Pathways report "I wish I was 21 Now" in which he confidentially surveyed just about every Australian pro cyclist for the last 20 years about their attitudes and experiences regarding doping. He knows where all the skeletons are buried, and while he wouldn't breach anyone's confidentiality, if he does stand up for a rider, I'll take him at his word.

 

[blackcat]

get along like a mongoose and a snake.

JV is a good guy.

good guys are, good.

reads from the Jeffersonian script and ethics. He said so.

Burston Marsteller and positive PR always trumps reality, just gotta keep to the talking points and stay on message