Teams & Riders Matteo Jorgenson and his inexorable rise to the top

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Salvarani

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RedheadDane said:
But my point is that I thought it was Swedish because it ends in 'son', rather than 'sen' (with the ö just disappearing over the years/at some point). However, kristo confirmed that it was indeed originally Danish, ending with 'sen'.
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Swedish names usually also has the double "ss" instead of just one s.

It is never an ö in "son" at the end. It is before if it is in the name.

And son literally means "son" in swedish too. That is where the surname derives from back in the day. If the fathers name was Erik. The sons surname would be Eriksson. Like Eriks son. Hence the double ss. Now they dont make surnames like that no more. The family name just continues.
 
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tobydawq

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Salvarani said:
Swedish names usually also has the double "ss" instead of just one s.

It is never an ö in "son" at the end. It is before if it is in the name.

And son literally means "son" in swedish too. That is where the surname derives from back in the day. If the fathers name was Erik. The sons surname would be Eriksson. Like Eriks son. Hence the double ss. Now they dont make surnames like that no more. The family name just continues.
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I meant it should have been Jörgenson, of course not Jorgensön. Good poin with the double s, though.

And to the others discussing my point of ø not being that hard, you may have points but I still maintain that it wouldn't take more than 10 seconds of concentrated effort to figure out how to open your mouth to make the ø sound, where rolling double r's in Spanish for example require much more practice to master.
 
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laarsland

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He will be lining up in the Tour of Britain. Would be nice to see him in the thick end of at least one of the hillier stages.
 
Koronin

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Here's an article about his journey from Idaho to Europe to getting a contract with Movistar.
www.velonews.com

Matteo Jorgenson's unorthodox pathway to the WorldTour

To further his pro career, Matteo Jorgenson emailed dozens of teams, cultivated a network, and even learned French. His work may have created a new route for Americans to reach the WorldTour.
www.velonews.com www.velonews.com
 
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In his debut with Movistar today at Grand Trittico Lombardo he finished 21st in a group 1 minute 16 seconds behind Gorka.
 
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He was pretty impressive nonetheless. He was one of the first to react when Brambilla upped the pace on the second to last Giro and only Kwiato, Nibali were following.

He probably ran out of the gas when a later selection was made, but nice to see him fight in such horrible conditions against the big boys.
 
RedheadDane

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I'm not saying he wasn't impressive. I'm just saying it wasn't his debut.
And I can't help but wonder if Koronin briefly got him mixed up with a certain Dane. If so, here's a brief cheat-sheet:

Matteo Jorgenson
American.
Italian-sounding given name, Danish-ish sounding surname.
The new version of a French Ag2R rider, who's the new version of another French Ag2R rider, who's...

Mathias Norsgaard (Jørgensen)
Danish.
Danish-sounding names all the way through.
Not - as far as I know - the new version of anyone.
 
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tobydawq

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I think the thread title leaves absolutely no doubt as to whom this thread is concerning.

Even if the name wasn't there, there could be no doubt.
 
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laarsland

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I feel like chopping off Latour’s name in the next iteration - been a perennial disappointment.
 
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Is it bad that I've only heard of 2 of the 5 riders in this thread title?
 
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Logic-is-your-friend said:
If you don't care at all about u23 racing, i guess that's not that strange. But i know all of them.
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Well, that makes sense, then. U23-wise, I mostly just pay attention to Worlds and Avenir a little. Of course you also hear about the very biggest prospects. I couldn't even find Champoissin in CQ or PCS.
 
Koronin

Koronin

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RedheadDane said:
I'm not saying he wasn't impressive. I'm just saying it wasn't his debut.
And I can't help but wonder if Koronin briefly got him mixed up with a certain Dane. If so, here's a brief cheat-sheet:

Matteo Jorgenson
American.
Italian-sounding given name, Danish-ish sounding surname.
The new version of a French Ag2R rider, who's the new version of another French Ag2R rider, who's...

Mathias Norsgaard (Jørgensen)
Danish.
Danish-sounding names all the way through.
Not - as far as I know - the new version of anyone.
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More like it's been too long since the first part of the season actually started.
 
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