McQuaid and Verbruggen going down

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BroDeal said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/15/s...stify-against-cycling-officials.html?hp&_r=1&

Armstrong, 41, is planning to testify against officials from the International Cycling Union, the worldwide governing body of cycling, regarding their involvement with doping in cycling, but he will not testify against other riders, according to those people familiar with his plans.


Haha and he's planning to join Floyd as a witness in the Qui Tam lawsuit. The knives will be out in the Tailwind camp to get Armstrong now.
 
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BroDeal said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/15/s...stify-against-cycling-officials.html?hp&_r=1&

Armstrong, 41, is planning to testify against officials from the International Cycling Union, the worldwide governing body of cycling, regarding their involvement with doping in cycling, but he will not testify against other riders, according to those people familiar with his plans.
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peterst6906 said:
Haha and he's planning to join Floyd as a witness in the Qui Tam lawsuit. The knives will be out in the Tailwind camp to get Armstrong now.

I think that is true, and Weisel and co. have a lot more money than Armstrong to wage war with. Hopefully these guys will point to Armstrong coming aboard Subaru-Montgomery as a already a full out doper straight, The national team and Carmichael will then get publicly implicated.
 
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BroDeal said:
I think that is true, and Weisel and co. have a lot more money than Armstrong to wage war with. Hopefully these guys will point to Armstrong coming aboard Subaru-Montgomery as a already a full out doper straight, The national team and Carmichael will then get publicly implicated.

Let's hope. If Armstrong really does move against Weisel, then it could be gloves off all around. Best cage fight in history.

In the end, hopefully none will be left standing and the whole system that supported the program will be brought down from the UCI through USAC and Tailwind.

Floyd and Tyler could be the only ones left standing.
 
BroDeal said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/15/s...stify-against-cycling-officials.html?hp&_r=1&

Armstrong, 41, is planning to testify against officials from the International Cycling Union, the worldwide governing body of cycling, regarding their involvement with doping in cycling, but he will not testify against other riders, according to those people familiar with his plans.

but why should anyone believe him? i thought if someone lies about doping, but then admits to it, they cannot be trusted...?

at least that was the fanboy reaction to landis and hamilton...

does he repay lemond the millions he lost by armstrong destroying his bike brand? does he issue a public apology...?

bringing down mcquaid and verdruggen is great -- travis tygart will be even more of a hero -- but how does armstrong get to reduce a lifetime ban to be able to compete immediately -- only with special treatment. and isn't that what he has always had? and why should accept it if he is left with even one million dollars? it is one million more than his sorry lack of talent deserved. and it is still a million more than delion, bassons, etc...
 
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Big Doopie said:
but how does armstrong get to reduce a lifetime ban to be able to compete immediately

reportedly Tygart only mentioned the possibility of a reduction to 8 years, not an immediate return.

Irrespective on a return to sport, now that the cat is finally out of the bag from Armstrong himself, there will be pressure for full disclosure from a range of sources, not only from USADA. I think he can no longer stop the eventual full confession and implication of others.
 
Mar 13, 2009
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BroDeal said:
I think that is true, and Weisel and co. have a lot more money than Armstrong to wage war with. Hopefully these guys will point to Armstrong coming aboard Subaru-Montgomery as a already a full out doper straight, The national team and Carmichael will then get publicly implicated.
we find out about his triathlon doping then.
 
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peterst6906 said:
Let's hope. If Armstrong really does move against Weisel, then it could be gloves off all around. Best cage fight in history.

In the end, hopefully none will be left standing and the whole system that supported the program will be brought down from the UCI through USAC and Tailwind.

Floyd and Tyler could be the only ones left standing.

indeed. blood on the floor.
 
Aug 7, 2010
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PosterBill said:
Velonews and Cyclingnews should be running with this headline hard...what gives?

Velonews? Really? That former shining beacon is now just a pitiful rag. Anyone with any testicular fortitude left that sinking ship (or was tossed overboard) long ago. They only run anything of substance after the other sites/mags have already covered the topic and shown that the waters are safe. :mad:
 
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PosterBill said:
Velonews and Cyclingnews should be running with this headline hard...what gives?
It's 6am in the CN offices just about now.
And the lights have been off at VeloNews for a while now.
 
red_flanders said:
I'm shocked he's going to throw Weisel under the bus. Feds must be applying some seriously hot coals.

His personality doesn't permit him to be the king Austin Bikepathlete. No. He has to be able to show up at triathlons doped for that first or second place. Wonderboy can't race, politically and socially tainted so badly it may as well be leprosy.

You guys are celebrating too early. Meanwhile Hein and the IOC are still enabling doping and someone else gets Pat's job thinking he/she can do it better so it's not like Pat's mess. Only it's Hein and the Federations making the mess.

This kind of thing gets people promoted inside the IOC after a little vacation. Pat can run World Cycling Promotions and everyone can pretend it's not the UCI.

Back in the U.S. what exactly happens? Apparently Thom owns USA Cycling outright and we know USACDF is completely independent of USAC anyway. Even in prison, Thom's got total control of US cycling.

Still, I am glad Thom's name is finally coming up. That guy has been behind doping cyclists for a long, long time. The rest of the Tailwind/CSE scumbags should be nervous.

It sounds like the appearance will be enough to avoid jail and felony trial for Wonderboy. What a shame. Few are more deserving of jail time.
 
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Lance 2010:
"It’s our word against his word. I like our word. We like our credibility. Floyd lost his credibility a long time ago."

Pat 2013:
“It’s our word against his word. I like our word. We like our credibility. Lance lost his credibility a long time ago.”
 
The USADA has to follow some rules and they can't simply let Armstrong back even if he were to cooperate fully (which is doubtful), but damn, personally I'd let him back to his puny triathlon rides in a second if that means he brings the UCI and USAC down.
 
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this is the only good thing coming from the confession. can't wait to see their faces. will lance be heared under oath? hope the same will happen with verbruggen and mcquaid and then it's all over for all of them
 
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These two idiots have always been the end game for me. Getting rid of them gives cycling a chance. At the end of the day that is what all this is about. Its great Lance is getting a good seeing to but unless Pat/Hein are removed it means very little really. Cycling will still be in a hole if these idiots are left in power.
 
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We'll see what happens, i'm looking forward to the interview though.

I highly doubt it but IF Armstrong goes all out then a lot of damage can be done.

Please back off on AC though :D

I think the whole clenburol-thing might turn out to be a blessing.