Member Suspension Appreciation/Depreciation Thread

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Irondan said:
The 'friend' angle was quite interesting....

I’m surprised that you concluded Frank was Foxxy. The political views he expressed are of course just what one would expect from Foxxy—I pointed that out in my first response to him—but the style was different. Foxxy’s English was better, and he was harsher and more detailed in his responses than Frank. The Foxxy who posted here before would not simply have repeated that Trump was the right choice, he would have explained exactly why. That should have been obvious to anyone who followed Foxxy closely in either the politics or the NFL thread. He didn't just express strong opinions, he backed them up with arguments, whether you agreed with them or not. Frank didn't do that, despite my attempts and those of others to draw him out.

Maybe Foxxy was clever enough to change his style and even his grammar so he would appear to be another poster, but if he had wanted to do that, he could have expressed his views far more tentatively, and made the English much poorer. And why in the world would he admit to knowing Foxxy?

Here’s a question for you, or anyone else who understands computers: how can you possibly prove that the poster named Frank was the same as the poster named Foxxy? Absent actually going to Germany, somehow tracking down the original Foxxy, and watching him post under the name Frank, how can you say with any certainty they are one and the same? Maybe you can pinpoint the location of the computer, but that’s not the same as pinpointing the location of the poster. To take an obvious possibility, suppose Foxxy has a significant other who uses a different computer in Foxxy’s house. How would that be a violation of the CN rules, even if s/he happened to have similar views to Foxxy’s?
 
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Merckx index said:
Irondan said:
The 'friend' angle was quite interesting....

I’m surprised that you concluded Frank was Foxxy. The political views he expressed are of course just what one would expect from Foxxy—I pointed that out in my first response to him—but the style was different. Foxxy’s English was better, and he was harsher and more detailed in his responses than Frank. The Foxxy who posted here before would not simply have repeated that Trump was the right choice, he would have explained exactly why. That should have been obvious to anyone who followed Foxxy closely in either the politics or the NFL thread. He didn't just express strong opinions, he backed them up with arguments, whether you agreed with them or not. Frank didn't do that, despite my attempts and those of others to draw him out.

Maybe Foxxy was clever enough to change his style and even his grammar so he would appear to be another poster, but if he had wanted to do that, he could have expressed his views far more tentatively, and made the English much poorer. And why in the world would he admit to knowing Foxxy?

Here’s a question for you, or anyone else who understands computers: how can you possibly prove that the poster named Frank was the same as the poster named Foxxy? Absent actually going to Germany, somehow tracking down the original Foxxy, and watching him post under the name Frank, how can you say with any certainty they are one and the same? Maybe you can pinpoint the location of the computer, but that’s not the same as pinpointing the location of the poster. To take an obvious possibility, suppose Foxxy has a significant other who uses a different computer in Foxxy’s house. How would that be a violation of the CN rules, even if s/he happened to have similar views to Foxxy’s?
I respect your opinion and agree that you have a point, but I was able to conclude that Frank1 was Foxxybrowne1111 by methods that I can't divulge without giving away important info that helps combat trolls from coming back as sockpuppets.
 
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it's a matter of triangulation, i guess, added to some uncomplicated internet tools. then, like in a doping test, a level of confidence would be ball parked, except it does not need to be a number. just an opinion of more that 1 mod....
#1: the permabanned often comeback to complain about the injustice done to them. check
#2: their views and those of a suspect usually coincide, sometimes to a t, sometimes more generally. check.
#3: the extensive - even private - knowledge level of the banned member history. check.
#4: some detail shared by both the original and a clone that flagged the mods. it may, but does not have to be, an email, geolocation, a phrase etc. check.
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Irondan said:
I respect your opinion and agree that you have a point, but I was able to conclude that Frank1 was Foxxybrowne1111 by methods that I can't divulge without giving away important info that helps combat trolls from coming back as sockpuppets.
I think it is great you fellas have so much high tec tools at your disposal to COMBAT trolls :D

Sorry, couldnt resist.
 
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sniper said:
saw helmutroole got banned.
pity!
will be back i hope.
Yeah thought that was a bit over the top. All it takes a few Greg fan's to complain and POOF YOU gone...............

Surprised you have not been sent into the bannination yet. Just don't post anything up over there about having a little white character of Lemond on the dashboard of their cars so that they can be blessed every morning or that they are fan ----------------- boys. Then all hate will break out!

I'm on the other side of the conversation than you but do think that all these pro's are full of PEDS. Never going to change my opinion with respect to that. But I will give up posting in that thread because those same fans will gang bang anyone who try's to have a opinion and subsequent reasonable argument/discussion.
 
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A query

25 Feb 2016 19:30
Rickjames has been banned for two weeks for trolling.

a 2 week ban means till 08.03.2016??

06 Mar 2016 19:02
Rick James is banned for one week for trolling

A ban again so soon? Methinketh RJ might not be suited to CN forums.........
 
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I don't know what post precipitated the ban, but if it for the crude one that I recall reading in that thread, the ban was well deserved IMO. No place for that in the forum.
 
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Benotti69 said:
A query

25 Feb 2016 19:30
Rickjames has been banned for two weeks for trolling.

a 2 week ban means till 08.03.2016??

06 Mar 2016 19:02
Rick James is banned for one week for trolling

A ban again so soon? Methinketh RJ might not be suited to CN forums.........
2 weeks should have been to 10 March actually
 
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LaFlorecita said:
Benotti69 said:
A query

25 Feb 2016 19:30
Rickjames has been banned for two weeks for trolling.

a 2 week ban means till 08.03.2016??

06 Mar 2016 19:02
Rick James is banned for one week for trolling

A ban again so soon? Methinketh RJ might not be suited to CN forums.........
2 weeks should have been to 10 March actually
I must have selected the wrong option in admin tools.

He was mistakenly let off early, but immediately posted a troll comment when he got back. Therefore he's banned again anyway.
 
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Irondan said:
LaFlorecita said:
Benotti69 said:
A query

25 Feb 2016 19:30
Rickjames has been banned for two weeks for trolling.

a 2 week ban means till 08.03.2016??

06 Mar 2016 19:02
Rick James is banned for one week for trolling

A ban again so soon? Methinketh RJ might not be suited to CN forums.........
2 weeks should have been to 10 March actually
I must have selected the wrong option in admin tools.

He was mistakenly let off early, but immediately posted a troll comment when he got back. Therefore he's banned again anyway.

Well let off early ( for good behaviour...) then straight back into a ban, a week seems a tad lenient.

Flo, you are right, 10th is 2 weeks from 25th. :D
 
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Benotti69 said:
Irondan said:
LaFlorecita said:
Benotti69 said:
A query

25 Feb 2016 19:30
Rickjames has been banned for two weeks for trolling.

a 2 week ban means till 08.03.2016??

06 Mar 2016 19:02
Rick James is banned for one week for trolling

A ban again so soon? Methinketh RJ might not be suited to CN forums.........
2 weeks should have been to 10 March actually
I must have selected the wrong option in admin tools.

He was mistakenly let off early, but immediately posted a troll comment when he got back. Therefore he's banned again anyway.

Well let off early ( for good behaviour...) then straight back into a ban, a week seems a tad lenient.

Flo, you are right, 10th is 2 weeks from 25th. :D
You're right, it does seem lenient. That wasn't on purpose.

Next time he trolls here will be cause for a much longer ban.

Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
 
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Hoggy - c'mon: we're mates. I don't agree with the mods even half the time, but you're smart enough not to get banned.

Hope to see you back soon, and please, lay off the Lemond stuff. That boy was a true champ and cleaner than my dear old ma - an effing germophobe phreak-arse!!!
 
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Stingray34 said:
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Hope to see you back soon, and please, lay off the Lemond stuff. That boy was a true champ and cleaner than my dear old ma - an effing germophobe phreak-arse!!!
Rini, is that you?
 
sniper said:
Stingray34 said:
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Hope to see you back soon, and please, lay off the Lemond stuff. That boy was a true champ and cleaner than my dear old ma - an effing germophobe phreak-arse!!!
Rini, is that you?
Afrank said:
In the past public sockpuppet accusations have been made with little to no action taken. Despite numerous moderators requests to report sockpuppet in private, it has not happened.

Public sockpuppet accusations add nothing to a conversation. They simply derail it and make the situation worse for everyone.

From now on the moderators will be employing a new policy regarding such accusations. If a poster makes an accusations, a warning will be given to that poster. If the poster continues after the first warning they will face a 24 hour ban.

As with everything, context is king and there will be times where it is not appropriate to issue a ban. Additionally if you believe a mistake has been made, please PM or email a moderator to explain.
 
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Irondan said:
sniper said:
Stingray34 said:
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Hope to see you back soon, and please, lay off the Lemond stuff. That boy was a true champ and cleaner than my dear old ma - an effing germophobe phreak-arse!!!
Rini, is that you?
Afrank said:
In the past public sockpuppet accusations have been made with little to no action taken. Despite numerous moderators requests to report sockpuppet in private, it has not happened.

Public sockpuppet accusations add nothing to a conversation. They simply derail it and make the situation worse for everyone.

From now on the moderators will be employing a new policy regarding such accusations. If a poster makes an accusations, a warning will be given to that poster. If the poster continues after the first warning they will face a 24 hour ban.

As with everything, context is king and there will be times where it is not appropriate to issue a ban. Additionally if you believe a mistake has been made, please PM or email a moderator to explain.
stingray knows who Rini is.
was an insider joke (or attempt at such)
certainly not a sockpuppet accusation.
 
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Maxiton said:
Scott SoCal said:
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MarkvW said:
It's been a long time since Maserati was permabanned. Could mercy now be shown?

The good doctor never expressed his will to return. ;)

After the way he was blown out nobody should blame him. Same with Chewie and Hugh.

What happened with Hugh?

Ban for an unwarranted/ridiculous amount of time. I'm guessing he turned his back on some seriously unfair treatment and now he's probably got much more time to run his bike shop these days. Those of us still here are the poorer for it.

Chewie will probably be on the Supreme Court before his ban is over.
 
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