Member Suspension Appreciation/Depreciation Thread

[red_flanders]

Of course it is all my fault, I somehow made him do it.

Funny that no one is saying it's your fault, they're simply pointing out the obvious fact that you're trying to get him banned and have been for a long time.

Both things are true. Hog baits you and you lobby to get him banned. Not a good look for either party.

 

[Race Radio]

Not a good look for either party.

Really? We are equals in this? That is absurd.

The guy clearly has some obsession with me. Stalks me relentlessly around the forum, intentionally twisting what I write and inventing nonsense in order to bait me, and others, into responding. You might find it entertaining but ultimately it pushes good posters from the the forum and makes it unusable. There are rules in place to prevent this. You might not think the rules are important but in order to have a forum that actually works they are needed

 

[red_flanders]

Really? We are equals in this? That is absurd.

The guy clearly has some obsession with me. Stalks me relentlessly around the forum, intentionally twisting what I write and inventing nonsense in order to bait me, and others, into responding. You might find it entertaining but ultimately it pushes good posters from the the forum and makes it unusable. There are rules in place to prevent this. You might not think the rules are important but in order to have a forum that actually works they are needed

Sure, it is absurd to say you're equals. Since that's not what I said and not the point of my post, I'm not sure what your point is other than to deflect attention from what you are doing.

 

[Race Radio]

Sure, it is absurd to say you're equals. Since that's not what I said and not the point of my post, I'm not sure what your point is other than to deflect attention from what you are doing.

Huh? What is wrong with rules?

Put aside your personal feelings and put yourself in my shoes. How would you like it if you had a stalker? Maybe you ignore it for a while but after it becomes a non-stop part of almost every post I write here it is normal for most people to ask that rules be followed

 

[BroDeal]

And there we have it:

The problem is that there was not any trolling by the standards of this place. There was barely any trolling by the standards of any place. You want to see trolling then check out the Froome thread and watch the 2012 muppets pretending that Froome is not suspicious. That is of course in between Foxxy's raving about Horner while gloating about Froome.

BTW, the video ads on this site blow. I have a huge pipe and I still get crappy performance because of all the video data getting slammed down it.

 

[Digger]

Really? We are equals in this? That is absurd.

The guy clearly has some obsession with me. Stalks me relentlessly around the forum, intentionally twisting what I write and inventing nonsense in order to bait me, and others, into responding. You might find it entertaining but ultimately it pushes good posters from the the forum and makes it unusable. There are rules in place to prevent this. You might not think the rules are important but in order to have a forum that actually works they are needed

This is completely lies.

I have often seen him back after a ban - him post, and the first person to reply to his post is you...not the other way round...you're showing your true colours I must say.

 

[red_flanders]

Huh? What is wrong with rules?

Put aside your personal feelings and put yourself in my shoes. How would you like it if you had a stalker? Maybe you ignore it for a while but after it becomes a non-stop part of almost every post I write here it is normal for most people to ask that rules be followed

Nothing is wrong with rules, why do you ask? Because obviously I never said anything was wrong with the rules or anything like it. Another strawman surfaces. Can we go for 3?

Like I said before. Hog baits you and you lobby to get him banned. Not a good look for either party.

 

[Race Radio]

Nothing is wrong with rules, why do you ask? Because obviously I never said anything was wrong with the rules or anything like it. Another strawman surfaces. Can we go for 3?

Like I said before. Hog baits you and you lobby to get him banned. Not a good look for either party.

It is not a strawman. Despite your spin the reality is I do not lobby for bans, I lobby for the rules to be followed. They are clear. They are in writing in multiple locations on the forum. They are there for a reason. There is nothing wrong with lobbying for the rules to be followed.

It is odd that you choose to spin that asking that the rules be followed is a bad thing.

 

[red_flanders]

It is not a strawman. Despite your spin the reality is I do not lobby for bans, I lobby for the rules to be followed. They are clear. They are in writing in multiple locations on the forum. They are there for a reason. There is nothing wrong with lobbying for the rules to be followed.

It is odd that you choose to spin that asking that the rules be followed is a bad thing.

Definitely keep trying to convince the readers. You may have some limited success.

 

[kingjr]

red_flanders, if I'm following Race Radio he is of the opinion, as am I, that Hog is is a troll. Maybe not a full time one, but the vast majority of the time. Plain and simple.

 

[red_flanders]

red_flanders, if I'm following Race Radio he is of the opinion, as am I, that Hog is is a troll. Maybe not a full time one, but the vast majority of the time. Plain and simple.

As I've said, I agree.

 

[kingjr]

As I've said, I agree.

Great


And now the only remaining question is, why does he get away with it so much, and why does the term last chance mean nothing at all when he's concerned.

 

[Race Radio]

Great


And now the only remaining question is, why does he get away with it so much, and why does the term last chance mean nothing at all when he's concerned.

....and why is pointing out the obvious spun as "Lobbying for a ban"?

 

[red_flanders]

....and why is pointing out the obvious spun as "Lobbying for a ban"?

Boy, everyone around you seems to "Spin" don't they. Wonder why that is. Just extraordinary that all this "spin" seems to circle around one person.

Wonder if it might have anything to do with you, rather than the amazing coincidence that everyone around you is "spinning".

You've been lobbying for the hog to get perma-banned for a long, long time. Just own it dude.

 

[red_flanders]

Great


And now the only remaining question is, why does he get away with it so much, and why does the term last chance mean nothing at all when he's concerned.

I don't know anything about last chances, so I can't comment. He's certainly been banned as much as anyone here, so to act as if the mods don't do anything is silly.

I don't think personally a perma-ban is in order, but I'm not a mod.

 

[BroDeal]

I do not lobby for bans, I lobby for the rules to be followed.

This, folks, is what is called spin. So let's break this down: You do lobby for people to get banned.

Funny how at the very same time you were lobbying for the rules to be followed by demanding a link to one of thehog's claims, you were clogging the forum with nonsense about a conspiracy based on Armstrong getting his picture taken while watching a race.

 

[Race Radio]

Wonder if it might have anything to do with you, rather than the amazing coincidence that everyone around you is "spinning".

Hardly everyone, just the same handful of people who will complain no matter what

 

[Race Radio]

This, folks, is what is called spin. So let's break this down: You do lobby for people to get banned.

Funny how at the very same time you were lobbying for the rules to be followed by demanding a link to one of thehog's claims, you were clogging the forum with nonsense about a conspiracy based on Armstrong getting his picture taken while watching a race.

Look, we get it. You are inventing stuff, trying to make this thread even more unreadable.......but all it does is make you look silly

 

[TheSpud]

probably the same amount of bans as you have sockpuppet accounts

Ah the usual Sceptic response - ignore the point, attack the poster, and generally go off on a tangent ...

The Hog has more bans than the total number of accounts on here (regardless of sockpuppets).

 

[BroDeal]

Look, we get it. You are inventing stuff, trying to make this thread even more unreadable.......but all it does is make you look silly

Ah, the usual clogging from RR. Anyone who posts something he does not like is inventing stuff or trying to make a thread unreadable or working for Public Strategies. Even when someone quotes RR's own posts it is inventing stuff.

Why do you continue to lie? How many times a day do you urge members to be banned for "not following the rules"? From the behavior of the mods and how they (despite having no participation with the forum other than banning people) charge into a thread after someone challenges your spin, it must be a lot.

 

[kingjr]

Ah, the usual clogging from RR. Anyone who posts something he does not like is inventing stuff or trying to make a thread unreadable or working for Public Strategies. Even when someone quotes RR's own posts it is inventing stuff.

You started talking about secret deals made with moderators, 2 moderators that were present said that secret deals are not being made. So what is it if not an invention? Or are they lying?

 

[sniper]

And now the only remaining question is, why does he get away with it so much, and why does the term last chance mean nothing at all when he's concerned.

what do you find harmful about his posts or posting style?
why are you smearing thehog?
has he hurt you in any way?
do tell.

 

[BroDeal]

You started talking about secret deals made with moderators, 2 moderators that were present said that secret deals are not being made. So what is it if not an invention? Or are they lying?

From what I know they are lying. They banned thehog in Feb. because of this. Look to the moderator's thread to see their refusal to give the reason for the his ban. This sort of underhanded dealing has festered ever since.

 

[kingjr]

From what I know they are lying. They banned thehog in Feb. because of this. Look to the moderator's thread to see their refusal to give the reason for the his ban. This sort of underhanded dealing has festered ever since.

The Hog has made a commitment to a Moderator and broke it, apparently. As I understand, you claim to know, this commitment was likely based on a plot by RR and his mod-buddies and involved Hog promising not to reply to RR again, then RR baiting him out deliberatley to get him banned. Correct me if I'm wrong.

If that's how it is, then please tell me, how do you know this, or do you in fact not know it, but you just like the sound of that and want to push that narrative.

And while you're at it, please tell me what the motivation for the mods would be to make secret deals with RR.

 

[kingjr]

what do you find harmful about his posts or posting style?
why are you smearing thehog?
has he hurt you in any way?
do tell.

I'm not smearing him. I think he is a troll, I have said that often enough.

I don't ask for immediate permanent banishment for trolls, I simply have the feeling that other members have been banned sooner and for less.