Member Suspension Appreciation/Depreciation Thread

[Race Radio]

so why did the entire thread attack and ridicule BroDeal when he posted something that didnt fit the accepted theory that Armstrong is the purest form of evil?

Holy Strawman Batman!

BroDeal spun an entertaining fable about crazed housewives driven by the twin G's (Greed and Greg LeMond). He should not be surprised when it is not accepted as gospel

 

[MarkvW]

See that's hyperbole.

I actually said on that thread, that GH was more than likely telling the truth.
But that it was a smear.

But I still get saddled with a groupthink or part of the orthodoxy (that was good!).

Isn't smearing someone with the truth a GOOD thing?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Isn't smearing someone with the truth a GOOD thing?

No, not really.

Telling the whole truth - that would be good.
Picking little bits to reveal as he did, and the way it was done - is to smear.
(If you want to continue this, lets go to the LA thread)

And that is why I am not part of a groupthink - I have my own thoughts, you are even free to nitpick and even, wait for it - disagree.
But they are my own opinions.

 

[Netserk]

No, not really.

Telling the whole truth - that would be good.
Picking little bits to reveal as he did, and the way it was done - is to smear.
(If you want to continue this, lets go to the LA thread)

And that is why I am not part of a groupthink - I have my own thoughts, you are even free to nitpick and even, wait for it - disagree.
But they are my own opinions.

If you think the discussion belongs there, why didn't you post your response there?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

If you think the discussion belongs there, why didn't you post your response there?

Because the person asked me HERE. Pretty simple.

So, if they want to continue the OT part, we can do so in the LA (or another appropriate thread).

 

[The Hitch]

How many times is willbick going to be allowed to post clinic in the road section? He was doing it litterally all year last year, start to finish with particularly substantial spells in the middle, and kept getting warnings yet the mods never wanted to take it the final step.

He's back at it, yet again, and its an obvious weak bait at the clinic anyway - telling people they need to deal with the fact that its a post epo era. Come on, sometimes children need to be shown the meaning of the word "no", to learn.

 

[Netserk]

Because the person asked me HERE. Pretty simple.

So, if they want to continue the OT part, we can do so in the LA (or another appropriate thread).

And so the next one (if they react the same way as you) will see your post HERE and respond to it HERE. Since you wanted to continue the OT part, why didn't you post it in the LA thread?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

And so the next one (if they react the same way as you) will see your post HERE and respond to it HERE. Since you wanted to continue the OT part, why didn't you post it in the LA thread?

Mark asked a fair question - that could stray OT.

So I addressed it OT, but if they wanted clarification on the OT stuff, to take it to the appropriate thread.

And indeed for that very purpose I have set up a different thread.
Any further questions, or clarifications can be posted there, so you don't muck up this one.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=21913

 

[the sceptic]

How many times is willbick going to be allowed to post clinic in the road section? He was doing it litterally all year last year, start to finish with particularly substantial spells in the middle, and kept getting warnings yet the mods never wanted to take it the final step.

He's back at it, yet again, and its an obvious weak bait at the clinic anyway - telling people they need to deal with the fact that its a post epo era. Come on, sometimes children need to be shown the meaning of the word "no", to learn.

I would say willbick is a very harmless troll. Its too obvious and dumb for anyone to care.

I usually laugh at the over the top sky trolls like him and oldcrank.

 

[Scott SoCal]

Challenge to the groupthink is not allowed. This was starkly evident during the shameful episode of Hincapie's statements being mischaracterized by the Andreus' version of Mark Fabiani and his automatons parroting his lies. No one is allowed to shade the spin he has painted in titanium white.

I decided to do a little testing to see how far this place has sunk. More than I suspected was the result. It was amusing to see how quick people turn. Deru kugi wa utareru. The really funny thing was that, ignoring RR's usual misrepresentations and straw men, everything I posted was true, just like Hincapie's statements. It just was not the simple truth that RR promotes.

I did have something confirmed that I had suspected, something that shows how putrid the forum has become. It might be fun when it is revealed.

This from the author of the "This Forum Blows" thread.

When did ya start that one... 2009?

No worries. There's always Slowtwitch.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Challenge to the groupthink is not allowed. This was starkly evident during the shameful episode of Hincapie's statements being mischaracterized by the Andreus' version of Mark Fabiani and his automatons parroting his lies. No one is allowed to shade the spin he has painted in titanium white.

I decided to do a little testing to see how far this place has sunk. More than I suspected was the result. It was amusing to see how quick people turn. Deru kugi wa utareru. The really funny thing was that, ignoring RR's usual misrepresentations and straw men, everything I posted was true, just like Hincapie's statements. It just was not the simple truth that RR promotes.

I did have something confirmed that I had suspected, something that shows how putrid the forum has become. It might be fun when it is revealed.

So you were being disingenuous to prove a point to yourself? Who could have picked up on that?

 

[Granville57]

I decided to do a little testing to see how far this place has sunk.

The only problem with that was the transparency of your attempt. You've proven time and time again to be too intelligent to suddenly believe what you were proposing. It didn't wash. Not saying it wasn't a fun ride, but it didn't wash.

And no, I'm not looking at this in hindsight. It was obvious as it was unfolding.

I see you're still channeling your inner, contrarian hog. That's cool,

It's BroDeals turn to be the contrarian.

I suspect that our favorite Dark Cat is simply uncomfortable with too much solidarity in a place like this because that could easily lead to a lack of critical thinking—which is a legitimate concern to have. He's filling the role in the absence of others, which is also legitimate.

BroDeal: Consistently the most entertaining poster on here. Beautiful work.

It appears that BroDeal's little thought experiment is blossoming quite well.

Which means that BroDeal's ploy worked!

Hey, it was enough to get me out of my lurking shell!

And it was all beautifully summarized here:

To get back on topic: If anyone actually believes that it just happened to be a random occurrence that Stumpy George finally broke his media silence to rock the world with a sh*t-talking-filled expose that knocked the current church bingo results to the back page in the local east-bumble news of the day, well you're dumber than anyone gave you credit for.

Of course this was PR shilling.

Mind you, it doesn't make me like Bro's posts any less.

I just like his writing that much...

To reiterate, BroDeal was playing a game, and it was obvious. Given the fictitious and disingenuous revival of Damiano Machiavelli however, the results hardly form the basis of an accurate assessment of the current state things within the walls of The Clinic.

I did have something confirmed that I had suspected, something that shows how putrid the forum has become. It might be fun when it is revealed.

When the term "putrid" is applied to a sub-forum of a cycling forum, then perhaps things are being taken a bit too seriously?

As far as anything being "revealed," (and whether or not it relates to incestuous internal dealings, or events quite external to this place) here's my take:
Even if it were to be proven, incontrovertibly, that a cabal lead by Betsy, Frankie, JV and Lemond were the ones who actually designed and patented r-EPO, and then hired North Korean commandos to hold hostage select family members of every pro cyclist, with the threat of never seeing them again if the riders didn't submit to using their evil product, all while using the same tactics to force bicycle companies to switch from steel to carbon fiber in the interest of eventually driving most manufacturing to China. Then some years later, the same cabal invented Twitter just so that—like Roman emperors overseeing a gladiatorial fight-to-the-death—they could entertain themselves as Race Radio faced off against BPC—even if all that were proven to be true?

That still wouldn't change the fact that Lance lied to Cancer Kids, and is a complete and total f'cking doosh for reasons so plentiful that they hardly need repeating (at least within this particular post).

The above revelation about the cabal would, no doubt, be interesting and certainly warrant its own thread (the title of which, I humbly submit for BroDeal’s creation) but it still wouldn't change the latter points about Armstrong. And since the discussion in question was in the Armstrong thread, any attempt to divert attention away from Armstrong only plays into Lance's very own method of attempted redemption: deflection and diversion.

When discussing Armstrong, it really doesn't matter what others did or didn't do. What Armstrong did was despicable, and no pointing of fingers is going to change that. And until he is willing to face up to the entirety of the toxic pyramid upon which he perched, the rest is just background noise. And it is, more often than not, put in place only to take the heat of Lance.

Personally, I take great satisfaction is watching the temperature rise and rise, creeping ever closer to the point of incineration.
When it gets too hot for Lance to handle? F'ck him.

 

[mewmewmew13]

so why did the entire thread attack and ridicule BroDeal when he posted something that didnt fit the accepted theory that Armstrong is the purest form of evil?

Well duh..sometimes a lot of people have the same idea..even though they are not melded by a mass cult.

If you decided to say that Daniel Benson was a mass murderer and most of the people in reply disagreed with you and ridiculed then is that your definition of 'groupthink'?

 

[Granville57]

Daniel Benson was a mass murderer

..............

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Daniel Benson was a mass murderer

Well, he has butchered quite a few pieces over the years.

 

[aphronesis]

seen me zapping jimmy, martin, gooner, del, rownham, Wallace, pedro etc?

seen me zapping the sceptic, dear wiggo, sniper, bobbins etc lately?

seen me zapping ryo, aphronesis, ChrisE (admittedly someone else zapped him but you get my gist) etc lately

seen me zapping chewie, race radio, thehog, scott, Bro etc lately? Oops, yes I DID zap thehog and race radio lately. Sorry about that one, slipped through to the keeper

Anyway, my point is I don't see an attack of groupthink braking out. Censorship? laughable. Armstrong is 20k posts, as is Sky. Wiggo and Dawg are about 5k.

You can't ban Scott just for being politically challenged.

 

[Scott SoCal]

You can't ban Scott just for being politically challenged.

Yes he can.

 

[sittingbison]

Yes he can.

But he won't

 

[Netserk]

Why is BroDeal's ban not in the suspension thread?

 

[Netserk]

Since I have tried to ask the mods through reports and PMs (without any answer), I will ask here:

Has serfla been allowed to come back from his perma ban (if so why?), if not, wtf is he still doing here, after he pretty much admitted to be him?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Since I have tried to ask the mods through reports and PMs (without any answer), I will ask here:

Has serfla been allowed to come back from his perma ban (if so why?), if not, wtf is he still doing here, after he pretty much admitted to be him?

serfla is harmless imo.
The occasional ott post here and there, but nothing which really burns down the place. Some good points too.

 

[ebandit]

Bad Press Club

Bro Popped Clearly...................but for how long?

Best Process Coped.................it's sad to say but about time too bro
had been insulting members for too long

Mark L

 

[LaFlorecita]

Since I have tried to ask the mods through reports and PMs (without any answer), I will ask here:

Has serfla been allowed to come back from his perma ban (if so why?), if not, wtf is he still doing here, after he pretty much admitted to be him?

What about airstream?

 

[sittingbison]

...Has serfla been allowed to come back from his perma ban (if so why?), if not, wtf is he still doing here, after he pretty much admitted to be him?

No

I spent a couple of hours nuking a dozen or so sockpuppets and deleting their posts... And most quotes/responces. Probably missed a couple of those.

Can you see a sockpuppet I didn't get?

 

[hiero2]

Bro Popped Clearly...................but for how long?

Best Process Coped.................it's sad to say but about time too bro
had been insulting members for too long

Mark L

You are not the only poster to say that.

This place has gone downhill so much, even the humor has gone to sh!t.

That stinks.

Damn.

Here I was proud of having finally made a point here.

Dave.

Hwah. Spit up my coffee! Really bad puns, but still got me!

Here's a little something for ya, all of ya, altho Dr Mas might have been on the author's mind:

http://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/2014/02/24


Btw - Sitting Bison - a note of appreciation for your hard work. Good job, and appreciated by at least one member - moi. Although I am sure there are others out there who appreciate that someone at least has a hand on the helm.