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fmk_RoI said:I think Swart was making a strong argument, using the same logic as sniper does, demonstrating by example not just the fundamental flaw in sniper's thought processes but also the damage he does, not just to individuals but to the whole of this forum. I can see how it might offend the sensibilities of some, and I can see how some would see it as Swart attacking sniper and not just making a strong point, but I still don't see it as being worth a month on the naughty step. But hey, I don't get to vote on these thing...Irondan said:Maybe they should both be permabanned....
Regrettably the moderator in question had an agenda that the rest of us mods didn't recognize until the damage was already done. You're ban was too long and should have been a month, the same as what Swart just got.red_flanders said:fmk_RoI said:I think Swart was making a strong argument, using the same logic as sniper does, demonstrating by example not just the fundamental flaw in sniper's thought processes but also the damage he does, not just to individuals but to the whole of this forum. I can see how it might offend the sensibilities of some, and I can see how some would see it as Swart attacking sniper and not just making a strong point, but I still don't see it as being worth a month on the naughty step. But hey, I don't get to vote on these thing...Irondan said:Maybe they should both be permabanned....
I didn't see the thread, but I was banned for 6 weeks for making a similar if not identical kind of argument. I tried to give an example of an egregiously false argument by using the example of a child molester (or some such thing, can't recall exactly and the post was deleted) to show how easy it is to tar someone with false assumptions about who they are and how they behave. I was making a point about false forms of argument. I called no one a child molester. Never had a ban before or since. Apparently the moderator to whom the post was aimed took extreme offense. 6 weeks, no warning, no explanation, even after repeated queries. Ridiculous.
Bans are used a bit too freely here sometimes. Seems to be an artifact of lack of time, effort, or imagination. The first one is a legit issue for mods. The last two are fixable.
I would say that for repeat offenders, perma-bans are often used too infrequently. If someone has 10 (or in some cases scores of) bans, it's not going to stop. A pattern has been established long ago.
Must have been the walkie talkies?blutto said:
Swarts can be a jerk sometimes with his condescending tone. As I don't like for anyone to get banninated then I have to stay consistent and say that I don't much like that Sworts and Sniper are not around.fmk_RoI said:I think Swart was making a strong argument, using the same logic as sniper does, demonstrating by example not just the fundamental flaw in sniper's thought processes but also the damage he does, not just to individuals but to the whole of this forum. I can see how it might offend the sensibilities of some, and I can see how some would see it as Swart attacking sniper and not just making a strong point, but I still don't see it as being worth a month on the naughty step. But hey, I don't get to vote on these thing...Irondan said:Maybe they should both be permabanned....
29 Jul 2017 15:47
France_En_Marche has been banned for a week for a sexist post.
06 Aug 2017 14:21
France_En_Marche is banned 2 months for obvious trolling and racial posts, after previously also have been ignoring forum rules
EDIT: After further discussions thats changed to a perma-ban.
RedheadDane said:Bit late to the party, but two posts in the Member Suspensions info-thread kinda got my attention...
29 Jul 2017 15:47
France_En_Marche has been banned for a week for a sexist post.
Immediately followed by:
06 Aug 2017 14:21
France_En_Marche is banned 2 months for obvious trolling and racial posts, after previously also have been ignoring forum rules
EDIT: After further discussions thats changed to a perma-ban.
Yeah... if (one of?) your first acts after returning from a ban is to continue breaking the rules, then I'd say a perma-ban is probably in order.
shalgo said:Just saw that someone was banned for "mechanical doping talk in the PRR." So-called "mechanical doping" is not doping at all and I'm not sure why its discussion is banned from that forum. It is illegal mechanical assistance. Is it also illegal to discuss riders grabbing a car door and getting a pull, a la Nibali?
shalgo said:Just saw that someone was banned for "mechanical doping talk in the PRR." So-called "mechanical doping" is not doping at all and I'm not sure why its discussion is banned from that forum. It is illegal mechanical assistance. Is it also illegal to discuss riders grabbing a car door and getting a pull, a la Nibali?
Got a link to that post?MarkvW said:shalgo said:Just saw that someone was banned for "mechanical doping talk in the PRR." So-called "mechanical doping" is not doping at all and I'm not sure why its discussion is banned from that forum. It is illegal mechanical assistance. Is it also illegal to discuss riders grabbing a car door and getting a pull, a la Nibali?
I once saw a forum member told by a mod that racing talk was not permitted in the Clinic.
Don't expect this place to make sense.
Irondan said:Got a link to that post?MarkvW said:shalgo said:Just saw that someone was banned for "mechanical doping talk in the PRR." So-called "mechanical doping" is not doping at all and I'm not sure why its discussion is banned from that forum. It is illegal mechanical assistance. Is it also illegal to discuss riders grabbing a car door and getting a pull, a la Nibali?
I once saw a forum member told by a mod that racing talk was not permitted in the Clinic.
Don't expect this place to make sense.
I'd be hard pressed to believe that that was a lone statement and not cherry picked from part of a larger conversation.
It doesn't matter anyway, if this place doesn't make much sense then it fits right into what the world looks like anyway. Our community may be screwed up, but it's ours and I enjoy my time here for the most part.
I get what you're saying and you're right, Susan didn't want general racing talk in the clinic.MarkvW said:Irondan said:Got a link to that post?MarkvW said:shalgo said:Just saw that someone was banned for "mechanical doping talk in the PRR." So-called "mechanical doping" is not doping at all and I'm not sure why its discussion is banned from that forum. It is illegal mechanical assistance. Is it also illegal to discuss riders grabbing a car door and getting a pull, a la Nibali?
I once saw a forum member told by a mod that racing talk was not permitted in the Clinic.
Don't expect this place to make sense.
I'd be hard pressed to believe that that was a lone statement and not cherry picked from part of a larger conversation.
It doesn't matter anyway, if this place doesn't make much sense then it fits right into what the world looks like anyway. Our community may be screwed up, but it's ours and I enjoy my time here for the most part.
I'll try to find it. This is it:
viewtopic.php?p=1095931#p1095931
Irondan said:I get what you're saying and you're right, Susan didn't want general racing talk in the clinic.MarkvW said:Irondan said:Got a link to that post?MarkvW said:shalgo said:Just saw that someone was banned for "mechanical doping talk in the PRR." So-called "mechanical doping" is not doping at all and I'm not sure why its discussion is banned from that forum. It is illegal mechanical assistance. Is it also illegal to discuss riders grabbing a car door and getting a pull, a la Nibali?
I once saw a forum member told by a mod that racing talk was not permitted in the Clinic.
Don't expect this place to make sense.
I'd be hard pressed to believe that that was a lone statement and not cherry picked from part of a larger conversation.
It doesn't matter anyway, if this place doesn't make much sense then it fits right into what the world looks like anyway. Our community may be screwed up, but it's ours and I enjoy my time here for the most part.
I'll try to find it. This is it:
viewtopic.php?p=1095931#p1095931
She's right, it's actually off topic because the "clinic" was set up to specifically talk about doping. If racing threads and conversation were permitted in the clinic then there would be a mixture of both forums, making the PRR forum obsolete which brings us to the original issue, doping talk. To keep them separate they have to be moderated, which may not make sense to you but it does to me.
MarkvW said:Irondan said:Got a link to that post?MarkvW said:shalgo said:Just saw that someone was banned for "mechanical doping talk in the PRR." So-called "mechanical doping" is not doping at all and I'm not sure why its discussion is banned from that forum. It is illegal mechanical assistance. Is it also illegal to discuss riders grabbing a car door and getting a pull, a la Nibali?
I once saw a forum member told by a mod that racing talk was not permitted in the Clinic.
Don't expect this place to make sense.
I'd be hard pressed to believe that that was a lone statement and not cherry picked from part of a larger conversation.
It doesn't matter anyway, if this place doesn't make much sense then it fits right into what the world looks like anyway. Our community may be screwed up, but it's ours and I enjoy my time here for the most part.
I'll try to find it. This is it:
viewtopic.php?p=1095931#p1095931
Irondan said:Not quite...aphronesis said:Someone suffering from res ipsa loquitur?
Tonton said:Late announcement: Koba80 perma-banned for a hateful post attention Gigs98 and trolling threats.
I think this might be a glimpse of what the secret mod-only forum looks like. To be a fly on that wall...Benotti69 said:Tonton said:Late announcement: Koba80 perma-banned for a hateful post attention Gigs98 and trolling threats.
wrong thread?