Mental cycling statistics

[janraaskalt]

Gotti won 5 UCI wins: two Giro stages and two Giro GCs as well as a stage in the Volta a Catalunya.

Both PCS and FirstCycling also says he won the 1999 GP Nobili Rubinetterie. PCS list it as having been a 1.1 race, but FC says it was national event. However Wikipedia claims Salvatore Commesso won it.

Anyone here who watched the race and can confirm the actual result?

On the archived pages of the organiser you can read that in 1999 the GP Nobili was the Italian Championships in Arona, won by Salvatore Commesso.

Wayback Machine

I guess PCS and FC copied the wrong info.

 

[janraaskalt]

On the archived pages of the organiser you can read that in 1999 the GP Nobili was the Italian Championships in Arona, won by Salvatore Commesso.

Wayback Machine

I guess PCS and FC copied the wrong info.

You can even watch it on Youtube:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N0O057bT4U

At 1:21, just after the finish you can see the banner GP Nobili Rubinetterie.

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Premio_Nobili_Rubinetterie_1999

QED

 

[QueenStagiaire]

If everybody was disqualified from every race where they were 30 or older, Romain Bardet would be a 2-time TdF winner and a world champion. Instead he‘s never won a WT stage race or one day race.

 

[hayneplane]

Marianne Vos has ridden 11 Giri and won at least one stage in each of them.

Miguel Indurain never won a Vuelta stage. Neither did Greg LeMond

Bernard Hinault never finished outside the podium in a GT he finished, and he lead the race at some point in all those he rode. He never won Paris-Nice.

Eddy Merckx won pretty much everything except for Paris-Tours. Both he and Hinault had a 6th place as their best result in that race.

Freddy Maertens never won a monument.

Not only did Jaan Kirsipuu never finish a GT in 15 starts, he never even made it to the third week of one.

The runner-up in the Tour de France have had a given name starting with J 23 times. J first names are also most common among thrid place finishers with 19.
The race has been won by someone with a given name starting with L 20 (or13) times. The 2000 and 2001 Tours are the only ones to have had an L winner, a J runner-up and a J in third place.

I know the calendar was different that time with the placement of the Vuelta but very surprised that as a Spaniard Indurain showed such a lack of interest in his home Grand Tour.

Kudos also to @Mosul for that remarkable German Champs Elysee stage stat

 

[Mosul]

Kudos also to @Mosul for that remarkable German Champs Elysee stage stat

Here's the list of German riders who have had a top-10 on the Champs Elysee stage since 1990

1990 Ludwig 3rd, Raab 10th
1991 Ludwig 2nd
1992 Ludwig 1st
1993 Raab 4th
1994 Ludwig 10th
1995 Zabel 6th
1996 Zabel 5th
1997 Zabel 2nd
1998 Zabel 5th
1999 Zabel 2nd, Wesemann 9th
2000 Zabel 2nd
2001 Zabel 2nd, Teutenberg 4th
2002 Zabel 7th
2003 Zabel 7th
2004 Hondo 3rd, Zabel 5th
2005 Forster 10th
2006 Zabel 4th
2007 Zabel 3rd, Forster 9th
2008 Ciolek 2nd, Forster 7th, Zabel 10th
2009 Ciolek 4th
2010 Ciolek 6th
2011 Greipel 3rd, Ciolek 9th
2012 Greipel 8th
2013 Kittel 1st, Greipel 2nd
2014 Kittel 1st, Greipel 4th
2015 Greipel 1st, Degenkolb 8th
2016 Greipel 1st
2017 Greipel 2nd, Selig 9th
2018 Degenkolb 2nd
2019 Greipel 6th, Arndt 9th
2020 Walscheid 10th
2021 Greipel 5th, Walscheid 10th

 

[Ricco']

Here's the list of German riders who have had a top-10 on the Champs Elysee stage since 1990

1990 Ludwig 3rd, Raab 10th
1991 Ludwig 2nd
1992 Ludwig 1st
1993 Raab 4th
1994 Ludwig 10th
1995 Zabel 6th
1996 Zabel 5th
1997 Zabel 2nd
1998 Zabel 5th
1999 Zabel 2nd, Wesemann 9th
2000 Zabel 2nd
2001 Zabel 2nd, Teutenberg 4th
2002 Zabel 7th
2003 Zabel 7th
2004 Hondo 3rd, Zabel 5th
2005 Forster 10th
2006 Zabel 4th
2007 Zabel 3rd, Forster 9th
2008 Ciolek 2nd, Forster 7th, Zabel 10th
2009 Ciolek 4th
2010 Ciolek 6th
2011 Greipel 3rd, Ciolek 9th
2012 Greipel 8th
2013 Kittel 1st, Greipel 2nd
2014 Kittel 1st, Greipel 4th
2015 Greipel 1st, Degenkolb 8th
2016 Greipel 1st
2017 Greipel 2nd, Selig 9th
2018 Degenkolb 2nd
2019 Greipel 6th, Arndt 9th
2020 Walscheid 10th
2021 Greipel 5th, Walscheid 10th

So Degenkolb and Walscheid have the whole pressure on their shoulders to keep the streak going this year, as the other viable option (Krieger) should be on team duties in that stage.

 

[BR2]

If everybody was disqualified from every race where they were 30 or older, Romain Bardet would be a 2-time TdF winner and a world champion. Instead he‘s never won a WT stage race or one day race.

Oh my god, that really is a mental statistic.

 

[Potomac]

So Degenkolb and Walscheid have the whole pressure on their shoulders to keep the streak going this year, as the other viable option (Krieger) should be on team duties in that stage.

That's some serious pressure to preserve the streak

 

[shalgo]

Remco Evenepoel's dad, Mathieu Van der Poel's dad and Wout Van Aert's dad's cousin where all teammates at Collstrop in 1994

And in the Scheldeprijs that year, two out of three of them raced against Davide Rebellin.

 

[Finn84]

IIRC the rider with biggest post-stage lead margin at the Tour in this century is Francois Simon.

 

[Ricco']

After today's performance Jonas Vingegaard is en route to be the first rider of the host country of the 1st stage of the Tour to win the overall in 30 years, since Miguel Indurain in 1992.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

After today's performance Jonas Vingegaard is en route to be the first rider of the host country of the 1st stage of the Tour to win the overall in 30 years, since Miguel Indurain in 1992.

Not that bizarre a statistic given that I'm pretty sure the only Tour winners since to race a GD in the country they represent are Froome and Thomas in 2014.

 

[roundabout]

After today's performance Jonas Vingegaard is en route to be the first rider of the host country of the 1st stage of the Tour to win the overall in 30 years, since Miguel Indurain in 1992.

you forgot this in your post

@Alexandre B.

 

[Netserk]

Not that bizarre a statistic given that I'm pretty sure the only Tour winners since to race a GD in the country they represent are Froome and Thomas in 2014.

If 2014 counts for Thomas, 2007 does too for Wiggins.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

If 2014 counts for Thomas, 2007 does too for Wiggins.

Completely forgot Wiggins raced that Tour. The general point still stands though.

 

[roundabout]

Thomas raced 2007 Tour as well

 

[HelloDolly]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1547269725457362944

View: https://twitter.com/faustocoppi60/status/1547269725457362944?s=20&t=N40rX0C0ell2cuqiOHjIZQ

 

[SHAD0W93]

Wout Van Aert achieved the same number of TDF second place stage finishes in the first three days of this year's tour as Mark Cavendish has had in his entire life.

Since the fall of the Berlin wall in 1989 there has always been at least one German rider finishing in the top 10 of the Champs-Elysees stage. That's 32 consecutive years with 14 different riders.

Degenkolb top 10 confirmed

 

[RedheadDane]

Degenkolb top 10 confirmed

After solo winner Politt.

 

[wansteadimp]

After today's performance Jonas Vingegaard is en route to be the first rider of the host country of the 1st stage of the Tour to win the overall in 30 years, since Miguel Indurain in 1992.

But the first winner to be born in the country of the GD since Wiggins in 2012.

 

[Mosul]

LENNARD KAMNA is the only rider at this year's Tour de France whose name contains the letters of the name of the grand depart host country.

 

[noob]

Here I thought "finally a thread where I can talk about neurodiversity and how it factors in in cycling. Alas nope

 

[Armchair cyclist]

After today's performance Jonas Vingegaard is en route to be the first rider of the host country of the 1st stage of the Tour to win the overall in 30 years, since Miguel Indurain in 1992.

Not that bizarre a statistic given that I'm pretty sure the only Tour winners since to race a GD in the country they represent are Froome and Thomas in 2014.

If 2014 counts for Thomas, 2007 does too for Wiggins.

But the first winner to be born in the country of the GD since Wiggins in 2012.

Which basically all amounts to yet another way of rubbing France's nose in it over their drought...

 

[Finn84]

Considering that British riders won six out of seven races between 2012 and 2018, the fact that they failed to win the one which had Grand Depart in UK is a strange one.

 

[Ricco']

Considering that British riders won six out of seven races between 2012 and 2018, the fact that they failed to win the one which had Grand Depart in UK is a strange one.

It's also the only Tour of that decade (2010-2019) without a british stage winner.