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[tobydawq]

In the first 100 editions of the Tour de France up to 2013 just one winner, Stephen Roche, was born on an island. In the nine editions since then three winners, Vincenzo Nibali, Geraint Thomas, and Jonas Vingegaard have been born on islands.

Is Vendsyssel-Thy really an island? I guess it is, technically.

 

[shalgo]

On stage 12 of the 1967 Tour de France, Johny Schleck finished 3rd and Marino Basso finished 5th.

On stage 12 of the 2011 Tour, Frank Schleck (Johny's son) finished 3rd and Ivan Basso (no relation) finished 4th.

 

[Mosul]

Is Vendsyssel-Thy really an island? I guess it is, technically.

It's included in the list of islands of Denmark Wikipedia page.

List of islands of Denmark - Wikipedia

 

[tobydawq]

It's included in the list of islands of Denmark Wikipedia page.

List of islands of Denmark - Wikipedia

Yes, and it is an island geographically, people just don't really think of it as such (but for your stat, it definitely works, too bad that Wiggins and Froome were not born in the UK, or it would have been really crazy).

 

[Mosul]

Yes, and it is an island geographically, people just don't really think of it as such (but for your stat, it definitely works, too bad that Wiggins and Froome were not born in the UK, or it would have been really crazy).

With Nibali, Thomas and Vingegaard winning the Tour at four-year intervals could this predict that Majorca-born Enric Mas will win the Tour in 2026?

 

[tobydawq]

No French rider has won a WorldTour stage race since Christophe Moreau won Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré in 2007 (so none in the WorldTour era).

But Pavel Sivakov has won the Tour de Pologne - sadly for France it was before he turned French.

 

[Parker]

In the first 100 editions of the Tour de France up to 2013 just one winner, Stephen Roche, was born on an island. In the nine editions since then three winners, Vincenzo Nibali, Geraint Thomas, and Jonas Vingegaard have been born on islands.

Does Australia count as an island? I would count it, which would make it four since 2010.

 

[Netserk]

Does Australia count as an island?

No.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Does Australia count as an island? I would count it, which would make it four since 2010.

An island is a body of land surrounded by water. Continents are also surrounded by water, but because they are so big, they are not considered islands. Australia, the smallest continent, is more than three times the size of Greenland, the largest island.

Island | National Geographic Society

An island is a body of land surrounded by water

education.nationalgeographic.org

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[rallybanana]

Countries that have never won a grand tour stage even though grand tour stage winners have been born there.
Malta - David Millar
Morocco - Richard Virenque
Kenya - Chris Froome
Japan - Chris Horner

if you include team time trial winners
Finland - Charly Wegelius

I just found another one

Greece - Lucien Lazaridès

 

[tobydawq]

The only people younger than Alberto Contador who have won the Tour de France have been born in the following 6 years:

1984
1985
1986
1996
1997
1998

 

[Mosul]

Maurice Garin and Bernard Hinault are the only Tour de France winners who don't have another Tour de France winner born within 5 years of them.

*Stephen Roche was born 5 years and 2 weeks after Hinault which I define as more than 5 years.

 

[Netserk]

1990 and 1994 seemed like really strong generations, but maybe that was down to the weakness of those near them.

 

[tobydawq]

1990 and 1994 seemed like really strong generations, but maybe that was down to the weakness of those near them.

I don't think that's the only reason why they appeared strong.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Steven Kruijswijk hasn’t won a professional bike race since 2014. During this time he top-10d 6 GTs including the 2016 Giro where he finished second on same time on three consecutive stages including a time trial. After those three stages, he also led the GC by three minutes but we all know how that went. His two professional victories are as many as Alejandro Valverde had at 1800 m+ altitude during the 2003 Vuelta.

 

[hill]

Egan Bernal has won TdF without making it to the top 3 on an individual stage (stage 19 that year was neutralized). Till this day his best TdF individual stage result is 4th place.

 

[Billie]

Based on this tweet:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1560924489147375618

View: https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1560924489147375618


Least amount of GT stages before winning a stage in all three GTs.

Merlier had ridden 19 GT stages before la Vuelta so has a chance to take this record I think.

Seems to me like record holder is Nicola Minali who rode 12 TdF stages in 94, an unknown amount of Giro stages (At least 12, but not all of them) and won the 2nd Vuelta stage in 95.

PCS does not have full results for Giro 95 so tough to find how many stages he rode before abandoning. Record seems to be around 25-30 stages. If anybody knows where to find full race results for 95 Giro.

Edit: FC has Minali abandoning on stage 15 so that makes it 27 GT stages to win one in all three.

So Merlier would have to win stage 7 to take the record so Minali's record seems safe.

 

[Mosul]

Most GT stages without winning any (not including TTTs) is Haimar Zubeldia with 573.

 

[shalgo]

Most GT stages without winning any (not including TTTs) is Haimar Zubeldia with 573.

It seems fitting that he has this record.

It also adds poignancy to the time in the 2015 Vuelta when he uncharacteristically went in the break, and narrowly finished second to Roche.

 

[Finn84]

1958 Giro and 2022 Vuelta are two GTs which have had six different riders leading the race after first six stages. In both cases the streak ended after leader from stage 6 kept the lead at the end of stage 7.

 

[Mosul]

Rik Van Looy is the only rider to have won GT stages in the capital city of each of the grand tour host nations. Paris (1963), Rome (1959), and Madrid (1958).

Sam Bennett is the only active rider to have won stages in 2 of the cities (Paris and Rome). He has twice finished 2nd in Madrid.

 

[RedheadDane]

Evenepoel is about to become the first Belgian GT winner in 44 years - since Johan de Muynck in the 1978 Giro.

Spain is on the way to break that record

Plot-twist; it's Dumoulin who wins.

These posts didn't age so well.

 

[Panda Claws]

I went ahead and looked at the ages of male cyclists when they reached 5k and 10k points on CQranking.com.
Please keep in mind that that website normally only awards points to races from 1999 onward. There are some older cyclists, e.g. Davide Rebellin, that were awarded some points from other races throughout the '90s but since this does not apply to all races or all of them I did not consider anything scored before 1999. In the interest of fairness basically.

Here are the results. Please understand that where I live it is normal to write one thousand as 1.000 instead of 1,000.

5.000 points

1. Tadej Pogacar – 8.237 days (22 years, 6 months, 21 days)
2. Remco Evenepoel – 8.253 days (22 years, 7 months, 6 days)
3. Peter Sagan – 8.451 days (23 years, 1 month, 20 days)
4. Egan Bernal – 8.826 days (24 years, 2 months, 1 day)
5. Edvald Boasson Hagen – 8.855 days (24 years, 2 months, 30 days)
6. Robert Gesink – 9.054 days (24 years, 9 months, 15 days)
7. Damiano Cunego – 9.073 days (24 years, 10 months, 3 days)
8. Arnaud Demare – 9.176 days (25 years, 1 month, 14 days)
9. Tom Boonen – 9.265 days (25 years, 4 months, 14 days)
10. Nairo Quintana – 9.303 days (25 years, 5 months, 21 days)
11. John Degenkolb – 9.352 days (25 years, 7 months, 9 days)
12. Michal Kwiatkowski – 9.372 days (25 years, 7 months, 29 days)
13. Mark Cavendish – 9.378 days (25 years, 8 months, 4 days)
14. Alberto Contador – 9.414 days (25 years, 9 months, 10 days)
15. Nacer Bouhanni – 9.426 days (25 years, 9 months, 22 days)
16. Thibaut Pinot – 9.434 days (25 years, 9 months, 30 days)
17. Vincenzo Nibali – 9.440 days (25 years, 10 months, 5 days)
18. Tom Dumoulin – 9.450 days (25 years, 10 months, 15 days)
19. Alejandro Valverde – 9.479 days (25 years, 11 months, 14 days)
20. Andy Schleck – 9.505 days (26 years, 0 months, 9 days)

Despite his injury Evenepoel reached 5.000 points after winning the ITT in the 2022 Vuelta a Espana. He was only 16 days older than Pogacar was when he reached the same feat by finishing 3rd in the 2021 Vuelta al Pais Vasco.

10.000 points

1. Tadej Pogacar – 8.707 days (23 years, 10 months, 2 days)
2. Remco Evenepoel - 8.811 days (24 years, 1 month, 14 days)
3. Peter Sagan – 9.284 days (25 years, 5 months, 2 days)
4. Alejandro Valverde – 10.274 days (28 years, 1 month, 16 days)
5. Nairo Quintana – 10.276 days (28 years, 1 month, 18 days)
6. Tom Boonen – 10.339 days (28 years, 3 months, 22 days)
7. Vincenzo Nibali – 10.420 days (28 years, 6 months, 12 days)
8. Damiano Cunego – 10.480 days (28 years, 8 months, 10 days)
9. Julian Alaphilippe – 10.545 days (28 years, 10 months, 14 days)
10. Philippe Gilbert – 10.576 days (28 years, 11 months, 15 days)
11. Edvald Boasson Hagen – 10.598 days (29 years, 0 months, 6 days)
12. Mark Cavendish – 10.687 days (29 years, 3 months, 5 days)
13. Arnaud Demare – 10.810 days (29 years, 7 months, 6 days)
14. Alexander Kristoff – 10.817 days (29 years, 7 months, 13 days)
15. Alberto Contador – 10.870 days (29 years, 9 months, 5 days)
16. Fabian Cancellara – 10.944 days (29 years, 11 months, 18 days)
17. Thibaut Pinot – 11.025 days (30 years, 2 months, 9 days)
18. Michael Matthews – 11.162 days (30 years, 6 months, 24 days)
19. Michal Kwiatkowski – 11.208 days (30 years, 8 months, 8 days)
20. John Degenkolb – 11.212 days (30 years, 8 months, 12 days)
21. Tom Dumoulin – 11.217 days (30 years, 8 months, 17 days)

If Alberto Contador had not lost points because of his suspension then he would have reached 10.000 points throughout the 2010 Tour de France (probably towards the end or at the very least after winning it). This would have given him, at least, the following result:
3. Alberto Contador – 10.093 days (27 years, 7 months, 19 days)

It seems impossible that Remco Evenepoel will beat Tadej Pogacar's record here. Due to the winter break it would require him to reach 10.000 points by the end of the 2023 season. That will likely require at least a 4.000 points-season which would be significantly better than Tadej Pogacar's record-breaking 2021 (3.656 points).

Fastest from 5.000 to 10.000 points

1. Tadej Pogacar – 470 days
2. Primoz Roglic – 554 days
3. Remco Evenepoel - 558 days
4. Joaquim Rodriguez – 791 days
5. Alejandro Valverde – 795 days
6. Philippe Gilbert – 805 days
7. Peter Sagan – 833 days
8. Alexander Kristoff – 905 days
9. Erik Zabel – 915 days
10. Cadel Evans – 961 days
11. Nairo Quintana – 973 days

3. Alberto Contador - 679 days (see above)

History of record holders
5.000 points
29/07/2001 – Lance Armstrong (10.907)
18/08/2002 – Paolo Bettini (10.366)
18/04/2004 – Oscar Freire (10.290)
07/08/2005 – Ivan Basso (10.116)
26/02/2006 – Tom Boonen (9.265)
23/07/2006 – Damiano Cunego (9.073)
15/03/2011 – Robert Gesink (9.054)
14/08/2011 – Edvald Boasson Hagen (8.855)
17/03/2013 – Peter Sagan (8.451)
10/04/2021 – Tadej Pogacar (8.237)

10.000 points
16/03/2004 – Erik Zabel (12.306)
25/07/2004 – Lance Armstrong (11.999)
25/09/2005 – Paolo Bettini (11.500)
11/06/2008 – Alejandro Valverde (10.274)
(25/07/2010 – Alberto Contador (10.093))
28/06/2015 – Peter Sagan (9.284)
24/07/2022 – Tadej Pogacar (8.707)

My list definitely contains every male cyclist with 10.000 points or more but it is possible that I have missed some riders with over 5.000 points (I currently count 142). It is, however, unlikely that I missed those that would end up towards the upper end of this ranking. But definitely let me know if I have.

As an aside the oldest age to reach 5.000 points that I found was Niko Eeckhout at 15.054 days (41 years, 2 months, 20 days). This is far older than 2nd place Luca Mazzanti (13.679 days) (37 years, 5 months, 14 days).

The oldest age to reach 10.000 points was Domenico Pozzovivo at 14.075 days (38 years, 6 months, 17 days).

 

[Devil's Elbow]

In spite of the six breakaway wins so far this Vuelta, there has only been one stage where the lead of the break exceeded six minutes at any point.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Luis Leon Sanchez has more wins then Samuel Sanchez and Damiano Cunego despite the latters having a better sprint and more races as leader.

Piggy backed off my post in the Cavendish thread last year, the only sprinter to not only beat Cavendish but also not lose to him in a GT sprint is Andrea Guardini.

Mark Cavendish, Mario Cipollini, and Alessandro Petacchi are all tied on 16 years between their first and last win.