Mental or random cycling statistics

[RedheadDane]

I want to know did Lecerf change his nationality between 2024 and 2025 so you didn't count him and what nationality he is now?

I just completely missed him scrolling down the results...

 

[Ilmaestro99]

I can inform you that Patrick Eddy has now infiltrated this cluster and is fourth last, so now only 6 of the bottom 7 are from the 2025 Giro.

(and yes, the primary reason for bringing this up again was to give you a headache)

I spent multiple minutes reading the original post and I still have no idea what this statistic means

 

[RedheadDane]

First-time winners of the Best Young Rider Competition in GTs since 2015.

Fabio Aru
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Giro 2015, placed 2nd in GC.
Best-ever GT GC result: 1st Vuelta 2015.

Bob Jungels
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Giro 2016, placed 6th that year (also won it in the 2017 Giro).
Best-ever GT GC result: See above

Adam Yates
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Tour 2016, placed 4th in GC.
Best-ever GT GC result: 3rd Tour 2023

Simon Yates
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Tour 2017, placed 7th in GC
Best-ever GT GC result: 1st Vuelta 2018 and Giro 2025

Miguel Angel Lopez
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Vuelta 2017, placed 8th in GC (also won it in the 2018 and 2019 Giro)
Best-ever GT GC result: 3rd Giro 2018 and Vuelta 2018

Pierre Latour
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Tour 2018, placed 13th in GC
Best-ever GT GC result: See above

Enric Mas
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Vuelta 2018, placed 2nd in GC (also won it in the 2020 Vuelta)
Best-ever GT GC result: 2nd Vuelta 2018, 2021, and 2022

Egan Bernal
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Tour 2019, won the GC (also won it in the 2021 Giro)
Best-ever GT GC result: 1st Tour 2019 and Giro 2021

Tadej Pogacar
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Vuelta 2019, placed 3rd in GC (also won it in the 2020-2023 Tours)
Best-ever GT GC result: 1st Tours 2020, 2021, 2024, and 2025. 1st Giro 2024

Tao Geoghegan Hart
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Giro 2020, won GC
Best-ever GT GC result: See above

Gino Mäder (RIP)
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Vuelta 2021, placed 5th in GC
Best-ever GT GC result: See above

Juan Pedro Lopez
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Giro 2022, placed 10th in GC
Best-ever GT GC result: See above

Remco Evenepoel
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Vuelta 2022, won GC (also won it in the 2024 Tour)
Best-ever GT GC result: See above

João Almeida
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Giro 2023, placed 3rd in GC
Best-ever GT GC result: 2nd Vuelta 2025

Juan Ayuso
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Vuelta 2023, placed 4th in GC
Best-ever GT GC result: 3rd Vuelta 2022

Antonio Tiberi
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Giro 2024, placed 5th in GC
Best-ever GT GC result: See above

Mattias Skjelmose
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Vuelta 2024, placed 5th in GC
Best-ever GT GC result: See above

Isaac del Toro
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Giro 2025, placed 2nd in GC
Best-ever GT GC result: See above

Florian Lipowitz
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Tour 2025, placed 3rd in GC
Best-ever GT GC result: See above

Matthew Riccitello
Won Best Young Rider Competition: Vuelta 2025, placed 5th in GC
Best-ever GT GC result: See above

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Superman and Ayuso winning white jerseys after their best-ever GT result when that result is only 3rd is wild. Bonus points to Superman for having multiple best-ever results prior to his final white jersey, and to Ayuso for winning his first white jersey after his sole GT podium.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Superman and Ayuso winning white jerseys after their best-ever GT result when that result is only 3rd is wild. Bonus points to Superman for having multiple best-ever results prior to his final white jersey, and to Ayuso for winning his first white jersey after his sole GT podium.

Mythical Superman. A maverick!

 

[Unchained]

That's a very very cool list Redhead made..thanks

 

[Pantani_lives]

Pogacar can equal Fausto Coppi with five wins in the Giro di Lombardia. Moreover he would be the first with five consecutive wins in a monument. Which other riders have won the same professional road race five or more times in a row?

• Miguel Indurain: 5x Tour de France
• Roger De Vlaeminck: 6x Tirreno-Adriatico
• Sean Kelly: 7x Paris-Nice

If we include national championships the records of consecutive wins are even higher.

• Tony Martin: 8x German Time Trial Championship
• Nicolas Frantz: 12x Luxembourgish Road Race Championship

And here are some women with a lot of consecutive wins:

• Anna van der Breggen: 7x Flèche Wallone
• Jeannie Longo: 11x French Road Race Championship
• Christine Majerus: 16x Luxembourgish Time Trial Championship

There are probably more examples.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Statistics about statistics: PCS are about 20 minutes short of their 4 billionth page hit.

and done

 

[RedheadDane]

And now for something very silly.

Super official Pro Cycling Stats Awards 2025

www.procyclingstats.com

 

[rallybanana]

A lot of hard miles

https://twitter.com/x/status/1808918186223386929

View: https://x.com/romain_courv/status/1808918186223386929

 

[hayneplane]

Wondering what the most Grand Tour stage wins anyone has without having won a Tour de France stage.

Kaden Groves is putting together an impressive palmares in that vein by farming sprints against weak fields but would be curious to see where that stacks up in history.

 

[YavorD]

Wondering what the most Grand Tour stage wins anyone has without having won a Tour de France stage.

Kaden Groves is putting together an impressive palmares in that vein by farming sprints against weak fields but would be curious to see where that stacks up in history.

Delio Rodriguez, 39 stage wins at the Vuelta.

And Kaden Groves won a stage in the Tour.

 

[hayneplane]

Delio Rodriguez, 39 stage wins at the Vuelta.

And Kaden Groves won a stage in the Tour.

Oops yeah this year 🙈think he had around 8 stages prior to that.

Looking at PCS that Rodriguez record is very heavily influenced by the WW2 period of oboy Spanish and a handful of Portuguese riders being present at these races. Can only see a record of 1 race outside of Spain

 

[SHAD0W93]

Oops yeah this year 🙈think he had around 8 stages prior to that.

Looking at PCS that Rodriguez record is very heavily influenced by the WW2 period of oboy Spanish and a handful of Portuguese riders being present at these races. Can only see a record of 1 race outside of Spain

Girardengo 30 Giro
Saronni 24 Giro 2 Vuelta
Olmo 20 Giro

 

[RedheadDane]

And Kaden Groves won a stage in the Tour.

AAah, yes. Won a bunch of Vuelta stages - and a few Giro stages - by farming easy sprints.
Then he won a Tour stage by going solo.
Go figure.

 

[hayneplane]

Girardengo 30 Giro
Saronni 24 Giro 2 Vuelta
Olmo 20 Giro

Are any of these post 1950s where travel around central and Northern Europe got a lot more frequent and riders didn’t just race in their home nation overwhelmingly?

 

[Wyndbrook]

I saw Beppe Saronni win the worlds in UK, he was a 70's/80's rider.

 

[Squire]

Are any of these post 1950s where travel around central and Northern Europe got a lot more frequent and riders didn’t just race in their home nation overwhelmingly?

Saronni obviously is, but he only had one TDF participation, which was a DNF. Girardengo also one participation which also was a DNF while Olmo never rode the Tour.

So the statistic isn't really that interesting considering they never even tried or had much opportunity to win Tour de France stages. But I don't know how we should frame the question to get something meaningful out of it.

 

[hayneplane]

Saronni obviously is, but he only had one TDF participation, which was a DNF. Girardengo also one participation which also was a DNF while Olmo never rode the Tour.

So the statistic isn't really that interesting considering they never even tried or had much opportunity to win Tour de France stages. But I don't know how we should frame the question to get something meaningful out of it.

It might well be that the tour as the all encompassing dominant force in road cycling is a much more modern phenomenon so the idea of a rider stacking up a big palmares without winning a tour stage is only really semi relevant from the Armstrong era onwards.