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I don't think that any team at the WT level would let him compete under these circumstances.Ricco' said:
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I certainly hope that he starts in France. Just put $50 on him at 100-1. Hoping that Froome has an on year/off year Tour cycle going....
And yeah, nine days at the Giro is pretty good prep for the Tour.
HelloDolly said:
I certainly hope that he starts in France. Just put $50 on him at 100-1. Hoping that Froome has an on year/off year Tour cycle going....
And yeah, nine days at the Giro is pretty good prep for the Tour.
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A bad dose of gastro will stop anyone racing. I suppose if it was Contador or someone it would be seen as a heroic retreat ?
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Obviously if {rider_i_like} withdraws from a race, it is because of legitimate illness or injury and was robbed of an assured great result, and if {rider_i_hate} withdraws from a race, he must be faking the illness/injury to avoid an embarrassing bad result.
movingtarget said:
Obviously if {rider_i_like} withdraws from a race, it is because of legitimate illness or injury and was robbed of an assured great result, and if {rider_i_hate} withdraws from a race, he must be faking the illness/injury to avoid an embarrassing bad result.
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Sounds very open to the idea of riding the tour, would obviously be a great Superdom for Froome and could be allowed to target one of the mountain stages in week three.
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Can't they send him to the Tour of Switzerland first? That race looks tailor-made for him this season.
Golden jersey at Switzerland + a stage win at the Tour would be a good save for his season after all!
Golden jersey at Switzerland + a stage win at the Tour would be a good save for his season after all!
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seriously . He got dropped the other day by Nibs and co who are not exactly the best climbers i.e Bertie ,froome etc and he was lucky to get back on. Landa was a domestic for Astana because that's what he his best at. Aru has already won a GT . Landa was a mountain top ahead of Bertie last year and he caught them all up .
If he was that good Bertie would never have caught him up " a whole mountain
"
Comparing him to Pantani you are dreaming and have no idea about cycling , go ride a bike and get some education.
Hgriffiths2606 said:That's such a load of crap, Landa would have beaten Aru if he wasn't so loyal, he climbs better than anyone with the exception of Mr Quintana, Landa will win a GT and probably several, he's far better that any GT contender outside of the big 3 simple as, He has proven time and time again that his climbing will win GTs like Pantani's didray j willings said:staubsauger said:
I
seriously . He got dropped the other day by Nibs and co who are not exactly the best climbers i.e Bertie ,froome etc and he was lucky to get back on. Landa was a domestic for Astana because that's what he his best at. Aru has already won a GT . Landa was a mountain top ahead of Bertie last year and he caught them all up .
If he was that good Bertie would never have caught him up " a whole mountain
" Comparing him to Pantani
you are dreaming and have no idea about cycling , go ride a bike and get some education.Re: Re:
HA HA . I'm not celebrating it means nothing to me . If he becomes the greatest rider of all time then fantastic I will respect that and admit I was wrong. I'm on here for 10 mins a day I just posted my views " which are right by the way"
I'm no hater just speaking the truth. Landa is just another LRP. He's nowhere near good enough to win a GT like Aru did. Aru has GT quality Landa does not. Aru has already won a GT, landa has not.
Go out and ride your bike instead of worrying about how I feel . I don't care I'm to busy in the real world.
Seems you are doing the only hating .
TMP402 said:Matteo. said:Today is yours ray. I image what a party you gave.
Yeah, drinks all round Casa Willings. What a night.
HA HA . I'm not celebrating it means nothing to me . If he becomes the greatest rider of all time then fantastic I will respect that and admit I was wrong. I'm on here for 10 mins a day I just posted my views " which are right by the way"
I'm no hater just speaking the truth. Landa is just another LRP. He's nowhere near good enough to win a GT like Aru did. Aru has GT quality Landa does not. Aru has already won a GT, landa has not.
Go out and ride your bike instead of worrying about how I feel . I don't care I'm to busy in the real world.
Seems you are doing the only hating .
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Pantani with BP would have nothing to do with Landa in a mountain stage both in a good shape. We are not in 2000 year.
i was a great fan of Pantani, but It is time for a lot of people to change mind as I did.
You are giving lesons with no idea of current cyclingand with no idea about who is Landa.
Landa is weak rider in terms of heath, so that is a problem always for 3 weeks, but he ha a huge talent for cycling.
ray j willings said:Hgriffiths2606 said:That's such a load of crap, Landa would have beaten Aru if he wasn't so loyal, he climbs better than anyone with the exception of Mr Quintana, Landa will win a GT and probably several, he's far better that any GT contender outside of the big 3 simple as, He has proven time and time again that his climbing will win GTs like Pantani's didray j willings said:staubsauger said:
I
seriously . He got dropped the other day by Nibs and co who are not exactly the best climbers i.e Bertie ,froome etc and he was lucky to get back on. Landa was a domestic for Astana because that's what he his best at. Aru has already won a GT . Landa was a mountain top ahead of Bertie last year and he caught them all up .
If he was that good Bertie would never have caught him up " a whole mountain
Comparing him to Pantani
Pantani with BP would have nothing to do with Landa in a mountain stage both in a good shape. We are not in 2000 year.
i was a great fan of Pantani, but It is time for a lot of people to change mind as I did.
You are giving lesons with no idea of current cyclingand with no idea about who is Landa.
Landa is weak rider in terms of heath, so that is a problem always for 3 weeks, but he ha a huge talent for cycling.
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Whats the difference. Landa replaces LRP and Sky will still be in pieces like they were in last years tour going in to the last week and a half . If Froome never had Thomas to hang onto he would have lost with more than a week to go. This team like any team will make no effect against the likes of Bertie and Quintana going into the last week.
Bertie ,Quintana just follow Froome simple. Astana will be the strongest team they will rip the tour apart. Aru
will attack at every opportunity and will cause everyone problems with the exception of a 100% bertie.
Froome, Quintana will not be able to cope on a "daily basis"
We have seen this all before about how great a team looks. Well its about how great they ride their bike over 3 weeks and none of the Sky riders last 3 weeks including froome. They all fade away.
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Whats the difference. Landa replaces LRP and Sky will still be in pieces like they were in last years tour going in to the last week and a half . If Froome never had Thomas to hang onto he would have lost with more than a week to go. This team like any team will make no effect against the likes of Bertie and Quintana going into the last week.
Bertie ,Quintana just follow Froome simple. Astana will be the strongest team they will rip the tour apart. Aru
will attack at every opportunity and will cause everyone problems with the exception of a 100% bertie.
Froome, Quintana will not be able to cope on a "daily basis"
We have seen this all before about how great a team looks. Well its about how great they ride their bike over 3 weeks and none of the Sky riders last 3 weeks including froome. They all fade away.
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I know exactly who Landa is . He's a good domestic rider who can climb well just like LRP.
Has he won a GT? has Aru won a GT ?
Did Landa get dropped the other day? YES.
If Landa was the huge talent you think he is then he would be riding the tour for Astana not Aru. Its business and money and Astana know Aru is their best chance of a tour win so they said goodbye. Would sky sell Froome.Movie sell Quintana,Tinko sell Bertie. No but Astana sold Landa.
Sky pulled him from the Giro because they knew he could not win it and he his more useful as a domestic for Froome. Don't tell me I don't know about Landa you explain if he's so good how come he got dropped the other day on a short climb . Maybe he was wearing the wrong socks
Taxus4a said:ray j willings said:Hgriffiths2606 said:That's such a load of crap, Landa would have beaten Aru if he wasn't so loyal, he climbs better than anyone with the exception of Mr Quintana, Landa will win a GT and probably several, he's far better that any GT contender outside of the big 3 simple as, He has proven time and time again that his climbing will win GTs like Pantani's didray j willings said:staubsauger said:
I
seriously . He got dropped the other day by Nibs and co who are not exactly the best climbers i.e Bertie ,froome etc and he was lucky to get back on. Landa was a domestic for Astana because that's what he his best at. Aru has already won a GT . Landa was a mountain top ahead of Bertie last year and he caught them all up .
If he was that good Bertie would never have caught him up " a whole mountain
Comparing him to Pantani
Pantani with BP would have nothing to do with Landa in a mountain stage both in a good shape. We are not in 2000 year.
i was a great fan of Pantani, but It is time for a lot of people to change mind as I did.
You are giving lesons with no idea of current cyclingand with no idea about who is Landa.
Landa is weak rider in terms of heath, so that is a problem always for 3 weeks, but he ha a huge talent for cycling.
I know exactly who Landa is . He's a good domestic rider who can climb well just like LRP.
Has he won a GT? has Aru won a GT ?
Did Landa get dropped the other day? YES.
If Landa was the huge talent you think he is then he would be riding the tour for Astana not Aru. Its business and money and Astana know Aru is their best chance of a tour win so they said goodbye. Would sky sell Froome.Movie sell Quintana,Tinko sell Bertie. No but Astana sold Landa.
Sky pulled him from the Giro because they knew he could not win it and he his more useful as a domestic for Froome. Don't tell me I don't know about Landa you explain if he's so good how come he got dropped the other day on a short climb . Maybe he was wearing the wrong socks
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like he was for the giro Its LRP all over again. Landa is not good enough to win GT. Never will be.
I[/quote]
That's such a load of crap, Landa would have beaten Aru if he wasn't so loyal, he climbs better than anyone with the exception of Mr Quintana, Landa will win a GT and probably several, he's far better that any GT contender outside of the big 3 simple as, He has proven time and time again that his climbing will win GTs like Pantani's did[/quote]
seriously . He got dropped the other day by Nibs and co who are not exactly the best climbers i.e Bertie ,froome etc and he was lucky to get back on. Landa was a domestic for Astana because that's what he his best at. Aru has already won a GT . Landa was a mountain top ahead of Bertie last year and he caught them all up .
If he was that good Bertie would never have caught him up " a whole mountain "
Comparing him to Pantani you are dreaming and have no idea about cycling , go ride a bike and get some education.[/quote]
Pantani with BP would have nothing to do with Landa in a mountain stage both in a good shape. We are not in 2000 year.
i was a great fan of Pantani, but It is time for a lot of people to change mind as I did.
You are giving lesons with no idea of current cyclingand with no idea about who is Landa.
Landa is weak rider in terms of heath, so that is a problem always for 3 weeks, but he ha a huge talent for cycling.[/quote]
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I know exactly who Landa is . He's a good domestic rider who can climb well just like LRP.
Has he won a GT? has Aru won a GT ?
Did Landa get dropped the other day? YES.
If Landa was the huge talent you think he is then he would be riding the tour for Astana not Aru. Its business and money and Astana know Aru is their best chance of a tour win so they said goodbye. Would sky sell Froome.Movie sell Quintana,Tinko sell Bertie. No but Astana sold Landa.
Sky pulled him from the Giro because they knew he could not win it and he his more useful as a domestic for Froome. Don't tell me I don't know about Landa you explain if he's so good how come he got dropped the other day on a short climb . Maybe he was wearing the wrong socks[/quote]
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You will eat that words.
I tell you becouse I know Landa I have talked with Landa several times, and I have a friend who is a friend of Landa, especially a friend of him, a girl who yesterday tell to my frtiend Landa was quite il in the ninghgtl..., and becouse I have follow Landa since amateur and I know his weaksness with heath.
You have to be respect for people, you are nobody to talk about Landa, nobody, give yoor opinion with respect.
Landa can help to everybody becouse he is very polite and obedient, but he is the antithesis of a domestique, he is able to do what nor Froome, nor Contador nor maybe Quintana is able in cycling. He is an especiall rider, and he will win something soon, just when he ride again and as I said at the begining of the Giro, if he is mentally and phisically well, he is magic,, he will show that. I said as well that he is not always mentally and phisically well, becouse his body is always in the edge of to be ill and to be super... as lot of cyclist, becouse they have no fat...and I know that becouse I have followed him and I have had information about him, his thoughs, his healht, his problems along the last 5 years.
You can say you know him, but you dont...who are you to know him?? who are even you to know about cycling? How old are you?, how many riders you know really? Have you been inside a race, or just go to see as a fan??
Anyway nobody know his true potential, he is a young rider and his potential is to discover...I though always TdF is out of his reach, but after to see he can do ITT as Quintana, I have changed my mind. Maybe he never get it, but he has that potencial, I am sure now...The difficuty is to be always mentally and physically well, but some years he can get it.
;aybe yiou dont know that Astana offered Landa the same money SKy did... Aru is nothing compared to Landa, but yes, Landa has to show still his potential, Aru just estarted before to get results in importtant GC, but that doesnt determine who is good or not... Aru just wa lucky, as contador was lucky in his time...
Did Aru get droped and Landa put 2 minutes even stopped all the day in Mortirolo stage? what is more important i cycling, to lose some second in the forst week, or to gain minutes in the key stages??
[quote="[.[/quote]
like he was for the giro Its LRP all over again. Landa is not good enough to win GT. Never will be. I[/quote]
That's such a load of crap, Landa would have beaten Aru if he wasn't so loyal, he climbs better than anyone with the exception of Mr Quintana, Landa will win a GT and probably several, he's far better that any GT contender outside of the big 3 simple as, He has proven time and time again that his climbing will win GTs like Pantani's did[/quote]
seriously . He got dropped the other day by Nibs and co who are not exactly the best climbers i.e Bertie ,froome etc and he was lucky to get back on. Landa was a domestic for Astana because that's what he his best at. Aru has already won a GT . Landa was a mountain top ahead of Bertie last year and he caught them all up .
If he was that good Bertie would never have caught him up " a whole mountain
" Comparing him to Pantani
you are dreaming and have no idea about cycling , go ride a bike and get some education.[/quote]Pantani with BP would have nothing to do with Landa in a mountain stage both in a good shape. We are not in 2000 year.
i was a great fan of Pantani, but It is time for a lot of people to change mind as I did.
You are giving lesons with no idea of current cyclingand with no idea about who is Landa.
Landa is weak rider in terms of heath, so that is a problem always for 3 weeks, but he ha a huge talent for cycling.[/quote]
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I know exactly who Landa is . He's a good domestic rider who can climb well just like LRP.
Has he won a GT? has Aru won a GT ?
Did Landa get dropped the other day? YES.
If Landa was the huge talent you think he is then he would be riding the tour for Astana not Aru. Its business and money and Astana know Aru is their best chance of a tour win so they said goodbye. Would sky sell Froome.Movie sell Quintana,Tinko sell Bertie. No but Astana sold Landa.
Sky pulled him from the Giro because they knew he could not win it and he his more useful as a domestic for Froome. Don't tell me I don't know about Landa you explain if he's so good how come he got dropped the other day on a short climb . Maybe he was wearing the wrong socks
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You will eat that words.
I tell you becouse I know Landa I have talked with Landa several times, and I have a friend who is a friend of Landa, especially a friend of him, a girl who yesterday tell to my frtiend Landa was quite il in the ninghgtl..., and becouse I have follow Landa since amateur and I know his weaksness with heath.
You have to be respect for people, you are nobody to talk about Landa, nobody, give yoor opinion with respect.
Landa can help to everybody becouse he is very polite and obedient, but he is the antithesis of a domestique, he is able to do what nor Froome, nor Contador nor maybe Quintana is able in cycling. He is an especiall rider, and he will win something soon, just when he ride again and as I said at the begining of the Giro, if he is mentally and phisically well, he is magic,, he will show that. I said as well that he is not always mentally and phisically well, becouse his body is always in the edge of to be ill and to be super... as lot of cyclist, becouse they have no fat...and I know that becouse I have followed him and I have had information about him, his thoughs, his healht, his problems along the last 5 years.
You can say you know him, but you dont...who are you to know him?? who are even you to know about cycling? How old are you?, how many riders you know really? Have you been inside a race, or just go to see as a fan??
Anyway nobody know his true potential, he is a young rider and his potential is to discover...I though always TdF is out of his reach, but after to see he can do ITT as Quintana, I have changed my mind. Maybe he never get it, but he has that potencial, I am sure now...The difficuty is to be always mentally and physically well, but some years he can get it.
;aybe yiou dont know that Astana offered Landa the same money SKy did... Aru is nothing compared to Landa, but yes, Landa has to show still his potential, Aru just estarted before to get results in importtant GC, but that doesnt determine who is good or not... Aru just wa lucky, as contador was lucky in his time...
Did Aru get droped and Landa put 2 minutes even stopped all the day in Mortirolo stage? what is more important i cycling, to lose some second in the forst week, or to gain minutes in the key stages??
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like he was for the giro Its LRP all over again. Landa is not good enough to win GT. Never will be.
I[/quote]
That's such a load of crap, Landa would have beaten Aru if he wasn't so loyal, he climbs better than anyone with the exception of Mr Quintana, Landa will win a GT and probably several, he's far better that any GT contender outside of the big 3 simple as, He has proven time and time again that his climbing will win GTs like Pantani's did[/quote]
seriously . He got dropped the other day by Nibs and co who are not exactly the best climbers i.e Bertie ,froome etc and he was lucky to get back on. Landa was a domestic for Astana because that's what he his best at. Aru has already won a GT . Landa was a mountain top ahead of Bertie last year and he caught them all up .
If he was that good Bertie would never have caught him up " a whole mountain "
Comparing him to Pantani you are dreaming and have no idea about cycling , go ride a bike and get some education.[/quote]
Pantani with BP would have nothing to do with Landa in a mountain stage both in a good shape. We are not in 2000 year.
i was a great fan of Pantani, but It is time for a lot of people to change mind as I did.
You are giving lesons with no idea of current cyclingand with no idea about who is Landa.
Landa is weak rider in terms of heath, so that is a problem always for 3 weeks, but he ha a huge talent for cycling.[/quote]
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I know exactly who Landa is . He's a good domestic rider who can climb well just like LRP.
Has he won a GT? has Aru won a GT ?
Did Landa get dropped the other day? YES.
If Landa was the huge talent you think he is then he would be riding the tour for Astana not Aru. Its business and money and Astana know Aru is their best chance of a tour win so they said goodbye. Would sky sell Froome.Movie sell Quintana,Tinko sell Bertie. No but Astana sold Landa.
Sky pulled him from the Giro because they knew he could not win it and he his more useful as a domestic for Froome. Don't tell me I don't know about Landa you explain if he's so good how come he got dropped the other day on a short climb . Maybe he was wearing the wrong socks[/quote]
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You will eat that words.
I tell you becouse I know Landa I have talked with Landa several times, and I have a friend who is a friend of Landa, especially a friend of him, a girl who yesterday tell to my frtiend Landa was quite il in the ninghgtl..., and becouse I have follow Landa since amateur and I know his weaksness with heath.
You have to be respect for people, you are nobody to talk about Landa, nobody, give yoor opinion with respect.
Landa can help to everybody becouse he is very polite and obedient, but he is the antithesis of a domestique, he is able to do what nor Froome, nor Contador nor maybe Quintana is able in cycling. He is an especiall rider, and he will win something soon, just when he ride again and as I said at the begining of the Giro, if he is mentally and phisically well, he is magic,, he will show that. I said as well that he is not always mentally and phisically well, becouse his body is always in the edge of to be ill and to be super... as lot of cyclist, becouse they have no fat...and I know that becouse I have followed him and I have had information about him, his thoughs, his healht, his problems along the last 5 years.
You can say you know him, but you dont...who are you to know him?? who are even you to know about cycling? How old are you?, how many riders you know really? Have you been inside a race, or just go to see as a fan??
Anyway nobody know his true potential, he is a young rider and his potential is to discover...I though always TdF is out of his reach, but after to see he can do ITT as Quintana, I have changed my mind. Maybe he never get it, but he has that potencial, I am sure now...The difficuty is to be always mentally and physically well, but some years he can get it.
;aybe yiou dont know that Astana offered Landa the same money SKy did... Aru is nothing compared to Landa, but yes, Landa has to show still his potential, Aru just estarted before to get results in importtant GC, but that doesnt determine who is good or not... Aru just wa lucky, as contador was lucky in his time...
Did Aru get droped and Landa put 2 minutes even stopped all the day in Mortirolo stage? what is more important i cycling, to lose some second in the forst week, or to gain minutes in the key stages??[/quote]
Tell me one thing that landa could do that contador couldn't...
Taxus4a said:
like he was for the giro Its LRP all over again. Landa is not good enough to win GT. Never will be. I[/quote]
That's such a load of crap, Landa would have beaten Aru if he wasn't so loyal, he climbs better than anyone with the exception of Mr Quintana, Landa will win a GT and probably several, he's far better that any GT contender outside of the big 3 simple as, He has proven time and time again that his climbing will win GTs like Pantani's did[/quote]
seriously . He got dropped the other day by Nibs and co who are not exactly the best climbers i.e Bertie ,froome etc and he was lucky to get back on. Landa was a domestic for Astana because that's what he his best at. Aru has already won a GT . Landa was a mountain top ahead of Bertie last year and he caught them all up .
If he was that good Bertie would never have caught him up " a whole mountain
" Comparing him to Pantani
you are dreaming and have no idea about cycling , go ride a bike and get some education.[/quote]Pantani with BP would have nothing to do with Landa in a mountain stage both in a good shape. We are not in 2000 year.
i was a great fan of Pantani, but It is time for a lot of people to change mind as I did.
You are giving lesons with no idea of current cyclingand with no idea about who is Landa.
Landa is weak rider in terms of heath, so that is a problem always for 3 weeks, but he ha a huge talent for cycling.[/quote]
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I know exactly who Landa is . He's a good domestic rider who can climb well just like LRP.
Has he won a GT? has Aru won a GT ?
Did Landa get dropped the other day? YES.
If Landa was the huge talent you think he is then he would be riding the tour for Astana not Aru. Its business and money and Astana know Aru is their best chance of a tour win so they said goodbye. Would sky sell Froome.Movie sell Quintana,Tinko sell Bertie. No but Astana sold Landa.
Sky pulled him from the Giro because they knew he could not win it and he his more useful as a domestic for Froome. Don't tell me I don't know about Landa you explain if he's so good how come he got dropped the other day on a short climb . Maybe he was wearing the wrong socks
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You will eat that words.
I tell you becouse I know Landa I have talked with Landa several times, and I have a friend who is a friend of Landa, especially a friend of him, a girl who yesterday tell to my frtiend Landa was quite il in the ninghgtl..., and becouse I have follow Landa since amateur and I know his weaksness with heath.
You have to be respect for people, you are nobody to talk about Landa, nobody, give yoor opinion with respect.
Landa can help to everybody becouse he is very polite and obedient, but he is the antithesis of a domestique, he is able to do what nor Froome, nor Contador nor maybe Quintana is able in cycling. He is an especiall rider, and he will win something soon, just when he ride again and as I said at the begining of the Giro, if he is mentally and phisically well, he is magic,, he will show that. I said as well that he is not always mentally and phisically well, becouse his body is always in the edge of to be ill and to be super... as lot of cyclist, becouse they have no fat...and I know that becouse I have followed him and I have had information about him, his thoughs, his healht, his problems along the last 5 years.
You can say you know him, but you dont...who are you to know him?? who are even you to know about cycling? How old are you?, how many riders you know really? Have you been inside a race, or just go to see as a fan??
Anyway nobody know his true potential, he is a young rider and his potential is to discover...I though always TdF is out of his reach, but after to see he can do ITT as Quintana, I have changed my mind. Maybe he never get it, but he has that potencial, I am sure now...The difficuty is to be always mentally and physically well, but some years he can get it.
;aybe yiou dont know that Astana offered Landa the same money SKy did... Aru is nothing compared to Landa, but yes, Landa has to show still his potential, Aru just estarted before to get results in importtant GC, but that doesnt determine who is good or not... Aru just wa lucky, as contador was lucky in his time...
Did Aru get droped and Landa put 2 minutes even stopped all the day in Mortirolo stage? what is more important i cycling, to lose some second in the forst week, or to gain minutes in the key stages??[/quote]
Tell me one thing that landa could do that contador couldn't...
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Think we might have a militant Astana fan here, Froome will win this Tour with 3+ minutes to everyone but Quintana only cycling illiterates will deny that those 2 will be dominant, Aru won't have that good a team because their A-team is largely with Nibali, Sky will have the best team by far with Movistar, Contador is too old and Aru hasn't competed with a world class field before, he'd have come 4th at best if the Vuelta field had made it to the end and his time trials are appalling, in the last week Sky and Movistar will be dominant and Aru will be the big casualty, despite his Vuelta win I think he'll struggle to make top 5 and you'll find that Sky and Movistar will cope very well I suspect Aru will be isolated and struggling to stay with Sky and Movistarray j willings said:
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Has he won a GT? has Aru won a GT ?
Did Landa get dropped the other day? YES.
If Landa was the huge talent you think he is then he would be riding the tour for Astana not Aru. Its business and money and Astana know Aru is their best chance of a tour win so they said goodbye. Would sky sell Froome.Movie sell Quintana,Tinko sell Bertie. No but Astana sold Landa.
Sky pulled him from the Giro because they knew he could not win it and he his more useful as a domestic for Froome. Don't tell me I don't know about Landa you explain if he's so good how come he got dropped the other day on a short climb . Maybe he was wearing the wrong socks[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]
Landa refused a new deal with Astana get you facts right and here's a relevant question, did Landa have to wait 3 times during last year's giro for Aru? Yes
Did Aru win the Vuelta from a tour-tired and injured field? Yes
And you'll also find that Landa was dropped because he was ill please research before you chat use a rider who is clearly better than Aru
Has he won a GT? has Aru won a GT ?
Did Landa get dropped the other day? YES.
If Landa was the huge talent you think he is then he would be riding the tour for Astana not Aru. Its business and money and Astana know Aru is their best chance of a tour win so they said goodbye. Would sky sell Froome.Movie sell Quintana,Tinko sell Bertie. No but Astana sold Landa.
Sky pulled him from the Giro because they knew he could not win it and he his more useful as a domestic for Froome. Don't tell me I don't know about Landa you explain if he's so good how come he got dropped the other day on a short climb . Maybe he was wearing the wrong socks
[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]Landa refused a new deal with Astana get you facts right and here's a relevant question, did Landa have to wait 3 times during last year's giro for Aru? Yes
Did Aru win the Vuelta from a tour-tired and injured field? Yes
And you'll also find that Landa was dropped because he was ill please research before you chat use a rider who is clearly better than Aru
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seriously . He got dropped the other day by Nibs and co who are not exactly the best climbers i.e Bertie ,froome etc and he was lucky to get back on. Landa was a domestic for Astana because that's what he his best at. Aru has already won a GT . Landa was a mountain top ahead of Bertie last year and he caught them all up .
If he was that good Bertie would never have caught him up " a whole mountain "
Comparing him to Pantani you are dreaming and have no idea about cycling , go ride a bike and get some education.[/quote]
Pantani with BP would have nothing to do with Landa in a mountain stage both in a good shape. We are not in 2000 year.
i was a great fan of Pantani, but It is time for a lot of people to change mind as I did.
You are giving lesons with no idea of current cyclingand with no idea about who is Landa.
Landa is weak rider in terms of heath, so that is a problem always for 3 weeks, but he ha a huge talent for cycling.[/quote]
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I know exactly who Landa is . He's a good domestic rider who can climb well just like LRP.
Has he won a GT? has Aru won a GT ?
Did Landa get dropped the other day? YES.
If Landa was the huge talent you think he is then he would be riding the tour for Astana not Aru. Its business and money and Astana know Aru is their best chance of a tour win so they said goodbye. Would sky sell Froome.Movie sell Quintana,Tinko sell Bertie. No but Astana sold Landa.
Sky pulled him from the Giro because they knew he could not win it and he his more useful as a domestic for Froome. Don't tell me I don't know about Landa you explain if he's so good how come he got dropped the other day on a short climb . Maybe he was wearing the wrong socks[/quote]
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You will eat that words.
I tell you becouse I know Landa I have talked with Landa several times, and I have a friend who is a friend of Landa, especially a friend of him, a girl who yesterday tell to my frtiend Landa was quite il in the ninghgtl..., and becouse I have follow Landa since amateur and I know his weaksness with heath.
You have to be respect for people, you are nobody to talk about Landa, nobody, give yoor opinion with respect.
Landa can help to everybody becouse he is very polite and obedient, but he is the antithesis of a domestique, he is able to do what nor Froome, nor Contador nor maybe Quintana is able in cycling. He is an especiall rider, and he will win something soon, just when he ride again and as I said at the begining of the Giro, if he is mentally and phisically well, he is magic,, he will show that. I said as well that he is not always mentally and phisically well, becouse his body is always in the edge of to be ill and to be super... as lot of cyclist, becouse they have no fat...and I know that becouse I have followed him and I have had information about him, his thoughs, his healht, his problems along the last 5 years.
You can say you know him, but you dont...who are you to know him?? who are even you to know about cycling? How old are you?, how many riders you know really? Have you been inside a race, or just go to see as a fan??
Anyway nobody know his true potential, he is a young rider and his potential is to discover...I though always TdF is out of his reach, but after to see he can do ITT as Quintana, I have changed my mind. Maybe he never get it, but he has that potencial, I am sure now...The difficuty is to be always mentally and physically well, but some years he can get it.
;aybe yiou dont know that Astana offered Landa the same money SKy did... Aru is nothing compared to Landa, but yes, Landa has to show still his potential, Aru just estarted before to get results in importtant GC, but that doesnt determine who is good or not... Aru just wa lucky, as contador was lucky in his time...
Did Aru get droped and Landa put 2 minutes even stopped all the day in Mortirolo stage? what is more important i cycling, to lose some second in the forst week, or to gain minutes in the key stages??[/quote]
Tell me one thing that landa could do that contador couldn't...[/quote]
You are so right Landa is far better than Aru, Landa waited 3 times for him at the Giro
That's such a load of crap, Landa would have beaten Aru if he wasn't so loyal, he climbs better than anyone with the exception of Mr Quintana, Landa will win a GT and probably several, he's far better that any GT contender outside of the big 3 simple as, He has proven time and time again that his climbing will win GTs like Pantani's did[/quote]portugal11 said:Taxus4a said:
I
seriously . He got dropped the other day by Nibs and co who are not exactly the best climbers i.e Bertie ,froome etc and he was lucky to get back on. Landa was a domestic for Astana because that's what he his best at. Aru has already won a GT . Landa was a mountain top ahead of Bertie last year and he caught them all up .
If he was that good Bertie would never have caught him up " a whole mountain
" Comparing him to Pantani
you are dreaming and have no idea about cycling , go ride a bike and get some education.[/quote]Pantani with BP would have nothing to do with Landa in a mountain stage both in a good shape. We are not in 2000 year.
i was a great fan of Pantani, but It is time for a lot of people to change mind as I did.
You are giving lesons with no idea of current cyclingand with no idea about who is Landa.
Landa is weak rider in terms of heath, so that is a problem always for 3 weeks, but he ha a huge talent for cycling.[/quote]
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I know exactly who Landa is . He's a good domestic rider who can climb well just like LRP.
Has he won a GT? has Aru won a GT ?
Did Landa get dropped the other day? YES.
If Landa was the huge talent you think he is then he would be riding the tour for Astana not Aru. Its business and money and Astana know Aru is their best chance of a tour win so they said goodbye. Would sky sell Froome.Movie sell Quintana,Tinko sell Bertie. No but Astana sold Landa.
Sky pulled him from the Giro because they knew he could not win it and he his more useful as a domestic for Froome. Don't tell me I don't know about Landa you explain if he's so good how come he got dropped the other day on a short climb . Maybe he was wearing the wrong socks
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You will eat that words.
I tell you becouse I know Landa I have talked with Landa several times, and I have a friend who is a friend of Landa, especially a friend of him, a girl who yesterday tell to my frtiend Landa was quite il in the ninghgtl..., and becouse I have follow Landa since amateur and I know his weaksness with heath.
You have to be respect for people, you are nobody to talk about Landa, nobody, give yoor opinion with respect.
Landa can help to everybody becouse he is very polite and obedient, but he is the antithesis of a domestique, he is able to do what nor Froome, nor Contador nor maybe Quintana is able in cycling. He is an especiall rider, and he will win something soon, just when he ride again and as I said at the begining of the Giro, if he is mentally and phisically well, he is magic,, he will show that. I said as well that he is not always mentally and phisically well, becouse his body is always in the edge of to be ill and to be super... as lot of cyclist, becouse they have no fat...and I know that becouse I have followed him and I have had information about him, his thoughs, his healht, his problems along the last 5 years.
You can say you know him, but you dont...who are you to know him?? who are even you to know about cycling? How old are you?, how many riders you know really? Have you been inside a race, or just go to see as a fan??
Anyway nobody know his true potential, he is a young rider and his potential is to discover...I though always TdF is out of his reach, but after to see he can do ITT as Quintana, I have changed my mind. Maybe he never get it, but he has that potencial, I am sure now...The difficuty is to be always mentally and physically well, but some years he can get it.
;aybe yiou dont know that Astana offered Landa the same money SKy did... Aru is nothing compared to Landa, but yes, Landa has to show still his potential, Aru just estarted before to get results in importtant GC, but that doesnt determine who is good or not... Aru just wa lucky, as contador was lucky in his time...
Did Aru get droped and Landa put 2 minutes even stopped all the day in Mortirolo stage? what is more important i cycling, to lose some second in the forst week, or to gain minutes in the key stages??[/quote]
Tell me one thing that landa could do that contador couldn't...[/quote]
You are so right Landa is far better than Aru, Landa waited 3 times for him at the Giro
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HE WAS ILL please learn about chcling
The amount of people on here saying that Landa is worse than Aru because he was dropped the other dayTaxus4a said:ray j willings said:Hgriffiths2606 said:That's such a load of crap, Landa would have beaten Aru if he wasn't so loyal, he climbs better than anyone with the exception of Mr Quintana, Landa will win a GT and probably several, he's far better that any GT contender outside of the big 3 simple as, He has proven time and time again that his climbing will win GTs like Pantani's didray j willings said:staubsauger said:
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seriously . He got dropped the other day by Nibs and co who are not exactly the best climbers i.e Bertie ,froome etc and he was lucky to get back on. Landa was a domestic for Astana because that's what he his best at. Aru has already won a GT . Landa was a mountain top ahead of Bertie last year and he caught them all up .
If he was that good Bertie would never have caught him up " a whole mountain
Comparing him to Pantani
Pantani with BP would have nothing to do with Landa in a mountain stage both in a good shape. We are not in 2000 year.
i was a great fan of Pantani, but It is time for a lot of people to change mind as I did.
You are giving lesons with no idea of current cyclingand with no idea about who is Landa.
Landa is weak rider in terms of heath, so that is a problem always for 3 weeks, but he ha a huge talent for cycling.
HE WAS ILL please learn about chcling
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